Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event

People make a big deal out of folks getting killed all the time. And not just pretty blonde girls.

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That story blew up because of the video that went viral of Floyd dying and dead... When Chauvin showed callous disregard for his life (he had stopped moving and breathing and Chauvin was still kneeling on his neck) ... That struck people a certain way ... The Ahmad Aubery case also didn't blow up until the video was released... Public sentiment was changed after that. Both cases got national attention because of the footage.

I don't know if any footage was released in the case of Nia Wilson (there might have been)
 
That story blew up because of the video that went viral of Floyd dying and dead... When Chauvin showed callous disregard for his life (he had stopped moving and breathing and Chauvin was still kneeling on his neck) ... That struck people a certain way ... The Ahmad Aubery case also didn't blow up until the video was released... Public sentiment was changed after that. Both cases got national attention because of the footage.

I don't know if any footage was released in the case of Nia Wilson (there might have been)

Massive impact with the Iryna Zarutska video footage as well. But we (not you) are going to dismiss that because she is a pretty blonde?
 
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Massive impact with the Iryna Zarutska video footage as well. But we (not you) are going to dismiss that because she is a pretty blonde?

I could be wrong, but I think his take is that the news cares more about a white blonde woman more than a black woman or man (or other brown person) ... The cases I listed (except for Nia Wilson's) were national anomalies because of the cut and dried video footage... Like Iryna's.

To further surmise, ask yourself how many black or brown kidnapping victims have garnered national headlines and how often are white kids/adults the subjects of such?
 
That story blew up because of the video that went viral of Floyd dying and dead... When Chauvin showed callous disregard for his life (he had stopped moving and breathing and Chauvin was still kneeling on his neck) ... That struck people a certain way ... The Ahmad Aubery case also didn't blow up until the video was released... Public sentiment was changed after that. Both cases got national attention because of the footage.

I don't know if any footage was released in the case of Nia Wilson (there might have been)
 
If you're referring to the guy who killed iryna, the guy went to jail for like 6 years for armed robbery iirc. how long should we keep people in jail for armed robbery? 25 years? The problem is he needed to be institutionalized but we don't have a system in place to deal with these crazies, so we just have to wait for them to commit crimes so we can keep them incarcerated. This shit happens all the time, but this time people care because it happened to a pretty blonde girl. and nothing has been done except pointing fingers while pretending this is an easy fix. Tragic.

There were a lot of things discussed about that murder and what happened is just so sad and awful. Reducing that tragedy to "pretty blonde girl" is actually rather disgusting to see. I've noticed you really like to generalize. It's common enough, I suppose, but when you say that people only care about a horrific murder for superficial reasons - it becomes quite clear there is little reason to believe your positions are well thought-out.
 
I could be wrong, but I think his take is that the news cares more about a white blonde woman more than a black woman or man (or other brown person) ... The cases I listed (except for Nia Wilson's) were national anomalies because of the cut and dried video footage... Like Iryna's.

Yes......"like Iryna's". Thus, the George Floyd reference.

To further surmise, ask yourself how many black or brown kidnapping victims have garnered national headlines and how often are white kids/adults the subjects of such?

You gotta look a lot deeper than that if we are going to ask ourselves questions about the dynamics of race and crime in this country. That's way off the mark in this thread though so I'll leave it there.
 
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If you're referring to the guy who killed iryna, the guy went to jail for like 6 years for armed robbery iirc. how long should we keep people in jail for armed robbery? 25 years?
Uhhh…. Yeah? Why shouldn't you spend a serious amount of time in prison if you commit one of the most violating crimes out there? I looked up South Carolina's armed robbery sentencing guidelines and it says the maximum sentence is 17 years. He got about a third of that. Maybe if they stuck to at least half less people would be victims of repeat offenders.
 
There's a group doing a tour of US collages hosting a Charlie Kirk style debate platform. Yesterday they went to TSU, and unlike the previous six stops, this one didn't go so well.

Don't worry though the "TSU students conducted themselves in a professional and respectful manner."







Local News report
 
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There's a group doing a tour of US collages hosting a Charlie Kirk style debate platform. Yesterday they went to TSU, and unlike the previous six stops, this one didn't go so well.

Don't worry though the "TSU students conducted themselves in a professional and respectful manner."







Local News report

Fuck TSU.
 
Trump expanding the war on domestic terrorism by including ALL OTHER violent left-wing organizations



It's about time to reign down on the violent left-wing groups :messenger_pouting: :messenger_pouting: :messenger_pouting: Young lefties/'progressives' are the most violent group of people

 
There's a group doing a tour of US collages hosting a Charlie Kirk style debate platform. Yesterday they went to TSU, and unlike the previous six stops, this one didn't go so well.

Don't worry though the "TSU students conducted themselves in a professional and respectful manner."







Local News report


Disgusting display of the ghetto culture are the ones dragging down others wanting to better themselves.
 
It's about time to reign down on the violent left-wing groups :messenger_pouting: :messenger_pouting: :messenger_pouting: Young lefties/'progressives' are the most violent group of people
I don't think there are groups. More like mentally unstable/ill individuals who live in "liberal" echo chambers. Freedom of speech does not mean permissiveness; anyone who incites violence on the internet should, at the very least, be fined.
 
If you're referring to the guy who killed iryna, the guy went to jail for like 6 years for armed robbery iirc. how long should we keep people in jail for armed robbery? 25 years?
How long would you like someone who went out, got a gun, used said gun to threaten the lives and had intent to kill them if they did not obey his demands while taking their things, to go to prison for?
 
Isolating their potential future terrorists from being exposed to any opposing views is step one in the process.

They must only be allowed to hear that their future targets are out to eradicate them, and that therefore they -the potential future terrorist- will be morally justified in killing the target. They do not commit these acts believing they are in the wrong; they commit these acts believing they are heroes, just as Islamic (and other) terrorists do.

These ideas cannot withstand challenge, and so anyone challenging them must be removed from the environment, be it reddit or college campuses or wherever. The potential future terrorist must be nurtured in an environment where ~everyone agrees that the future targets are an existential threat and therefore that it is morally good to kill them. If everyone around them is saying it too then it must be right, and especially at an age where people are desperate to fit in with their peers.

We cannot outlaw those ideas, but we can absolutely make it much harder for those ideas to exist and propagate unchallenged within those echo chambers (and really they are not just echo chambers but amplification chambers). Force online platforms over a certain size to decide between whether they want to retain the right to curate legal speech but lose the liability immunity they have been gifted, or to forfeit the right to curate legal speech (ie. to ban opposing views) but keep the immunity. The intent of the immunity was not to provide cover so that those platforms could be turned into terrorist production lines, and it is not a gift which has to continue to be given without conditions.
 
There's a group doing a tour of US collages hosting a Charlie Kirk style debate platform. Yesterday they went to TSU, and unlike the previous six stops, this one didn't go so well.

Don't worry though the "TSU students conducted themselves in a professional and respectful manner."







Local News report


They should rename TSU to ZOO.
 
I hope you don't ever read about the language used in debates in the era of the Founding Fathers. You'd probably faint.
This new age of people on the right Virtue Signaling to there peers about how Anti PC and how "I've had It" they are is sad and pathetic to watch. I say that as someone who is completely against the current left.
What happened to Integrity. Fuck Ehtics Goddam Integrity is what we need.

Stop using the other sides behavior as a way to justify your lack of Integrity.
Excuses all I hear lately from both sides is Excuses.
 
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This new age of people on the right Virtue Signaling to there peers about how Anti PC and how "I've had It" they are is sad and pathetic to watch. I say that as someone who is completely against the current left.
What happened to Integrity. Fuck Ehtics Goddam Integrity is what we need.

Stop using the other sides behavior as a way to justify your lack of Integrity.
Excuses all I hear lately from both sides is Excuses.
I don't think tone-policing is needed. It feels like an offshoot of wokeism, at least on forums it's always a woke person demanding people adhere to their sense of morality when it comes to speech.
 
Isolating their potential future terrorists from being exposed to any opposing views is step one in the process.

They must only be allowed to hear that their future targets are out to eradicate them, and that therefore they -the potential future terrorist- will be morally justified in killing the target. They do not commit these acts believing they are in the wrong; they commit these acts believing they are heroes, just as Islamic (and other) terrorists do.

These ideas cannot withstand challenge, and so anyone challenging them must be removed from the environment, be it reddit or college campuses or wherever. The potential future terrorist must be nurtured in an environment where ~everyone agrees that the future targets are an existential threat and therefore that it is morally good to kill them. If everyone around them is saying it too then it must be right, and especially at an age where people are desperate to fit in with their peers.

We cannot outlaw those ideas, but we can absolutely make it much harder for those ideas to exist and propagate unchallenged within those echo chambers (and really they are not just echo chambers but amplification chambers). Force online platforms over a certain size to decide between whether they want to retain the right to curate legal speech but lose the liability immunity they have been gifted, or to forfeit the right to curate legal speech (ie. to ban opposing views) but keep the immunity. The intent of the immunity was not to provide cover so that those platforms could be turned into terrorist production lines, and it is not a gift which has to continue to be given without conditions.
How will you choose which subjects are to be followed and stop those ideas from spreading? What ideas will be when someone shoots an abortion clinic like it happened not too long ago?
 
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South Korea is a beautiful country with great people and advanced infrastructure and technology, but it's able to build and maintain that infrastructure and maintain public order due to being a homogeneous high trust society, much like Scandinavia (until the last 10 years) and Japan. Apples to oranges.
Apples to Samsungs I believe
 
In the UK we call it paracetamol and it is as trivial a go-to painkiller as it gets, it's a generic tablet found in kitchen cupboards across the land and has been consumed for decades. This latest loony declaration out of the US about it is flat earther level retardation.
 
In the UK we call it paracetamol and it is as trivial a go-to painkiller as it gets, it's a generic tablet found in kitchen cupboards across the land and has been consumed for decades. This latest loony declaration out of the US about it is flat earther level retardation.
See the post above yours. While the declaration linking it to autism is ill advised/dubious etc., it isn't a trivial drug. The problem is people have been accustomed to thinking it's trivial.
 
In the UK we call it paracetamol and it is as trivial a go-to painkiller as it gets, it's a generic tablet found in kitchen cupboards across the land and has been consumed for decades. This latest loony declaration out of the US about it is flat earther level retardation.
What ? The whole debate is about paracetamol ?
 
See the post above yours. While the declaration linking it to autism is ill advised/dubious etc., it isn't a trivial drug. The problem is people have been accustomed to thinking it's trivial.
Ill advised/dubious is putting it lightly, is borderline idiotic. It's a simple as that. When my wife was pregnant and had pain, that was exactly what the Dr (one that actually studied it for years) prescribed. Of course, you should be careful with the dosage, but there is no evidence whatsoever of being related to Autism, ever. You have a basic retard that, to make matters worse, believes in every single conspiracy theory about pharmaceuticals in front of the healh office. Of course, i'm just an european looking at it, so my opinion is crap (judging by the last pages).
 
How will you choose which subjects are to be followed and stop those ideas from spreading?
That's not what I'm proposing, beyond the already existing distinction between legal and illegal speech.

I'm saying make large platforms decide if they want to be speech neutral platforms with liability immunity, or non-neutral publishers without immunity. Rather than try and prohibit speech and ideas, we make it harder to keep opposing views out and harder for an echo/amplification chamber to exist at scale.
 
See the post above yours. While the declaration linking it to autism is ill advised/dubious etc., it isn't a trivial drug. The problem is people have been accustomed to thinking it's trivial.

Sure, but compared to other drugs available that are routinely and sensibly used for various conditions related to pain, paracetamol is as low level as it gets. Don't be stupid with it though, obviously.

Re: ill advised/dubious. Nah, that's minimising what are moronic statements coming out of the White House, which in themselves come with their own potential for harm.
 
Wokeness is a mental condition in the literal sense of the word. The western society won't be able to move on until this set of ideologies has been completely erased from existence and publicly proclaimed as a dangerous death cult.
You are actually taking this at face value? If my wife was dying along with my unborn child I wouldn't be phoning a nurse from Instagram.
 
Sure, but compared to other drugs available that are routinely and sensibly used for various conditions related to pain, paracetamol is as low level as it gets. Don't be stupid with it though, obviously.

Re: ill advised/dubious. Nah, that's minimising what are moronic statements coming out of the White House, which in themselves come with their own potential for harm.
I'm not minimising a thing.

BTW, is that nurse above correct they are using a Harvard study as the basis? Perhaps it's a dufferent Harvard?
 
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