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[gaming_again]

Why are you here evangelizing mate? Someone who can afford proper high end PC gaming can more than afford any PS5, so why wouldn't they have both? Someone who can only afford a PS5 is obviously not going to pay for a good gaming rig, so you're not going to convince them with these comments.

PC gamers act like Jehovah's Witnesses on this forum all the time. I've never seen anything like it. I can't help noticing it but I try to not to bring it up. But sometimes I just can't help myself. They really don't like other people not having any interest in PC gaming.

 

[T-0800]

I thought somy was leading by 30 million sales? If so i dont really understand these threads, if sony was ahead in sales by 70/30 i could understand but this gen both have done poorly sales wise

 

[The Pleasure]

1. Fire Phil
2. Single SKU going foreard
3. All 1st party games available on GP but not at launch
4. No more games on PS5, Switch and PC unless it's an indie game - you want to play ESVI, you buy an Xbox

Satya, call me anytime.

I rather bet on Duke Nukem then bet on Xbox.

 

[nial]

Also, you know Nintendo is not playing the same game as Sony, neither is PC.

And no one has gone crazy for that?
I do think Nintendo is shit these days in several aspects, but not at the same level you're pretending an ""unchecked Sony"" would be.

 

[IDKFA]

Does Nintendo have an incentive to build upcoming machines so that they technically can play all games the PS6/7/8 can play, or are we looking at a potential monopoly in this niche (home console with quasi PC like capabilities) here? If PS remains the only console of its kind, Sony fans have no reason to be happy about that. PS6 games launching at 120 USD base price.

By that logic Nintendo has a monopoly on the hybrid consoles and could charge 120usd per game for the Switch 2.

Yet, we all know that isn't going to happen. Neither is Sony going to charge silly money per game if Microsoft drops out.

 

[RoadHazard]

We will revisit this thread in about 11 weeks or so

11 weeks?! Man, that's like a year.

 

[bitbydeath]

And people thought ms was ruthless wait until Apple enters

I wouldn't mind seeing this, they'd be expensive but their quality would be through the roof.

 

[peish]

Gamepass ultimate saves me lots of money, so many games so little time

We should stand together and not let it die, give our thoughts and support for Phil

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Gamepass ultimate saves me lots of money, so many games so little time

We should stand together and not let it die, give our thoughts and support for Phil

Or just buy the games I really want and safe myself a headache.

 

[Shut0wen]

Considering playstation sales have staggered to the point where they are manufacturing less this year, same with ms, xmas holidays were shit for all 3

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Considering playstation sales have staggered to the point where they are manufacturing less this year, same with ms, xmas holidays were shit for all 3

PS5 is only 0.8M behind PS4 as per january 2024, despite a pandemic and supply constraints for the first two years.

PS5 vs PS4 Sales Comparison - January 2024

The VGChartz sales comparison series of articles are updated monthly and each one focuses on a different sales [...]

www.vgchartz.com

"PS5 Vs. PS4 Worldwide:

Gap change in latest month: 224,274 - PS5

Gap change over last 12 months: 3,755,322 - PS5

Total Lead: 800,449 - PS4

PlayStation 5 Total Sales: 54,173,963

PlayStation 4 Total Sales: 54,974,412"

 

[Radical_3d]

Edit: nvm.

 

[drganon]

It is not just Xbox that will be exiting the console industry in the next decade.

 

[Shut0wen]

Both have done poorly…?

Someone needs a dose of facts. PS5 is selling about on par with ps4, and at a much higher price.

PS5 is at 53M vs 27M for XS consoles…. A 67% to 33% split…uh, which isn't far from your 70/30 ratio

Yet stales staggered for all 3 during the holidays, sales staggering isnt good when youve hit 53m with 0 intentions of cutting prices, infact in this current climate i really doubt ms or sony will ever cut until the next consoles are out

 

[Jimmy_liv]

So you would gladly buy again from a company that leaked your credit card info on internet and entirely stopped supporting a product you just bought ?

Any company van have a data leak.
I'm sure Netflix had one recently.

I do own a PS5 too. I own all the consoles because I don't support any piece of plastic, I just want to.play good games on my spare time.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Gamepass ultimate saves me lots of money, so many games so little time

Did you do the $1 trick? If so this is not really a measure of value.
I think buying games and limiting them backlog is good for impulse control.
Or just go PC, games are super cheap via sites offering Steam keys.

 

[cireza]

Any company van have a data leak.
I'm sure Netflix had one recently.

I do own a PS5 too. I own all the consoles because I don't support any piece of plastic, I just want to.play good games on my spare time.

I don't use Netflix.

So data leaks of personal info are fine and you don't care about it. You can blindly buy products and support companies that don't give a shit about you, for sure. But don't expect everyone to be like you.

IS security is a serious matter and companies have to invest properly in it.

 

[veterangamerUK]

promise after promise and after another promise

Phil Spencer Promises a Stronger Year for Xbox in 2023

Xbox CEO Phil Spencer assures fans that the company has big things in store for 2023 and beyond, with 'a lot more work' being done for PC.

gamerant.com

Phil Spencer admits 2022 was bad for Xbox, promises more games in 2023

Phil Spencer, CEO of Microsoft’s gaming division, admitted in a recent interview that 2022 wasn’t the greatest for Xbox

videogames.si.com

Phil Spencer says Xbox will deliver on a broken promise and 2023 will be a big year | LevelUp

Executive accepted that 2022 was a bad year; believes Xbox Games Showcase in June will deliver

www.levelup.com

Xbox's Promise to Bring More Games to More Players Around the World - Xbox Wire

Today, on a special edition of the Official Xbox Podcast, we shared an update on plans to continue to bring more games to more people around the world.

news.xbox.com

Spencer/Xbox really are the perfect example of the saying "tomorrow never comes"

 

[DenchDeckard]

Makes sense. They completely fumbled this generation with a lack of software and this is the result.

Looks like it's one last ditch attempt then they will bow out of hardware.

The only thing that annoys me is that I invested money into their eco system in the 360 days and even the xbox one. I enjoyed things like cross buy, play anywhere, cross saves etc. that's my own fault though. They need to ensure that they get all of those previously purchased games onto a pc compatible environment ASAP and then all is good for me.

 

[kyussman]

The death of Xbox must be the most drawn out painful death of anything ever.

 

[T-0800]

Considering playstation sales have staggered to the point where they are manufacturing less this year, same with ms, xmas holidays were shit for all 3

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Considering playstation sales have staggered to the point where they are manufacturing less this year, same with ms, xmas holidays were shit for all 3

Meanwhile, they broke a record during holiday 2023:

PlayStation made $9.8 billion in holiday 2023, a new historic all-time high

Sony's PlayStation games division generated a record-breaking $9.766 billion in holiday 2023, driven by strong hardware and software sales and mTX.

www.tweaktown.com

PS5 is also carrying the console-market hard.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Buying the XSX equals my decision to buy the Wii back in the days. Complete waste of money. Boggles my mind that they bought all those studios and then did NOTHING. Not only that, it's almost as if they did less with each new studio.

What the hell is going on with that company? At this point I'm not sure if they don't care or are just incompetent.

 

[NEbeast]

Yet there are people who somehow think releasing a new console generation early is going "turn the tide."

If 3rd party publishers are calling out shit sales, which are a direct response to you grooming your playerbase into not buying games (because of gamepass) , you know you fucked up.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

I don't use Netflix.

So data leaks of personal info are fine and you don't care about it. You can blindly buy products and support companies that don't give a shit about you, for sure. But don't expect everyone to be like you.

IS security is a serious matter and companies have to invest properly in it.

So Microsoft cares about you?

 

[GHG]

I don't use Netflix.

So data leaks of personal info are fine and you don't care about it. You can blindly buy products and support companies that don't give a shit about you, for sure. But don't expect everyone to be like you.

IS security is a serious matter and companies have to invest properly in it.

So you think security breaches have never happened to Microsoft or the plethora of other major companies you're likely to be a customer of?

Please keep going, it's entertaining.

 

[cireza]

So you think security breaches have never happened to Microsoft or the plethora of other major companies you're likely to be a customer of?

Please keep going, it's entertaining.

It is not about "thinking". It is about facts. I never had my CC leaked on the internet by MS.

It surely was enterning picking a free PS3 game when your CC could actually be used by someone somewhere to pay for whatever he wanted online, since back then you did not have two steps verification etc...

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

It is not about "thinking". It is about facts. I never had my CC leaked on the internet by MS.

It surely was enterning picking a free PS3 game when your CC could actually be used by someone somewhere to pay for whatever he wanted online, since back then you did not have two steps verification etc...

Holy fuck you dumbass lmao. All you need to do is search x company hack for literally any company and you'll get a plethora of results, including Microsoft

 

[cireza]

Holy fuck you dumbass lmao. All you need to do is search x company hack for literally any company and you'll get a plethora of results, including Microsoft

Damn here we are with the insults already.

I am talking about my personal experience, not about every single data breach that happened in history. I don't give a shit about breaches that didn't affect me if I wasnt a consumer, if it wasn't obvious enough. And nothing like this happened with MS or Nintendo.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Damn here we are with the insults already.

I am talking about my personal experience, not about every single data breach that happened in history. I don't give a shit about breaches that didn't affect me, if it wasn't obvious enough. And nothing like this happened with MS or Nintendo.

Sorry. I can't help but insult stupid fucking takes like this lmao

 

[Radical_3d]

Buying the XSX equals my decision to buy the Wii back in the days. Complete waste of money. Boggles my mind that they bought all those studios and then did NOTHING. Not only that, it's almost as if they did less with each new studio.

What the hell is going on with that company? At this point I'm not sure if they don't care or are just incompetent.

XSX is never a waste of money because you can play your old 360 games and Black at 4K. Nothing tops that last one.

 

[GHG]

It is not about "thinking". It is about facts. I never had my CC leaked on the internet by MS.

You speak like it was an intentional act. This is what happens when security breaches happen, and they have happened to pretty much every major company on earth at this point.

It might not have happened to you, but it has happened to other customers of Microsoft:

Microsoft warns that financial info 'may have been exposed' in Microsoft Store India hacks

Microsoft has admitted that financial info of its Microsoft Store India customers may have been compromised when the store's website was hacked earlier this month.

www.theverge.com

They have also had recent breaches that have far more severe implications than your poxy credit card information.

With enough time, you will run out of companies to be a customer of. Although I have a feeling this little stance of yours is superficial given your comments surrounding RROD.

The reality is that your info could leak as a result of a Microsoft security breach and nothing would change for you.

So please spare everyone the righteous bullshit.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Damn here we are with the insults already.

I am talking about my personal experience, not about every single data breach that happened in history. I don't give a shit about breaches that didn't affect me if I wasnt a consumer, if it wasn't obvious enough. And nothing like this happened with MS or Nintendo.

Anecdotal experience doesn't make it a rule, as many users have pointed out. Nowadays every service you use is at risk of leaking your data and information, which is why the onus should be on payment processing companies to put safeguards in place. PIN code for cards, SMS verification, App authorization when making purchase can effectively nullify the danger or your card being stolen.

"But MS never leaked my data" is not a good enough argument to be sticking with them unless your bar is really low.

 

[cireza]

Sorry. I can't help but insult stupid fucking takes like this lmao

No problem, keep up with it you retard.

It might not have happened to you, but it has happened to other customers of Microsoft:

The bad faith is absolute. The Sony leak was the ENTIRETY of their 77 millions WW accounts. Definitely the same thing as your link about MS lol.

Whose sucking whose dick already ?

 

[cireza]

Anecdotal experience

77 millions accounts.

"Anecdotal"

Lol

 

[Cyberpunkd]

77 millions accounts.

"Anecdotal"

Lol

I don't think you understood my message. Please go and read it again.

 

[chromatic9]

I am talking about my personal experience, not about every single data breach that happened in history. I don't give a shit about breaches that didn't affect me if I wasnt a consumer, if it wasn't obvious enough. And nothing like this happened with MS or Nintendo.

So if Nintendo and Microsoft leaked your CC info 10 years ago you would've stopped gaming with them?

I think you've made it clear you're a Sega diehard that really dislikes Sony the industry disrupter, see MS/Xbox as some spiritual Sega successor that warm the cockles of your heart despite them being a much bigger corp trying to take the reins by any means.

You could've just helped yourself all these years by having a dedicated CC and not cut your nose off to spite your face and let go of your grievances.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

No problem, keep up with it you retard.


The bad faith is absolute. The Sony leak was the ENTIRETY of their 77 millions WW accounts. Definitely the same thing as your link about MS lol.

Whose sucking whose dick already ?

Warning As 26 Billion Records Leak: Dropbox, LinkedIn, Twitter Named

The mother of all breaches as the researchers refer to it, is likely the biggest such data leak collection found to date. Here's what you need to know.

www.forbes.com

26 Billion (with a B) records

"records from users of platforms and services such as Twitter, Dropbox, LinkedIn, Adobe, Canva and Telegram is also to be found in this database. Worryingly, the researchers also say that records from an assortment of U.S. and other government organizations can be found."

Linkedin is owned by Microsoft last I checked and this was just 2 months ago.

So basically, as everyone is trying to point out, this unfortunately happens to every company under the sun, no need to hold a grudge against one in particular, but it's up to you to make up your mind

 

[GHG]

The bad faith is absolute. The Sony leak was the ENTIRETY of their 77 millions WW accounts. Definitely the same thing as your link about MS lol.

If you want to cry about 77 million then how does 500 million courtesy of your beloved company sound?:

LinkedIn Data Breach - 500M Records Leaked and Being Sold | Cybernews

A user on a popular hacker forum is selling 500M LinkedIn users' full names, email addresses, phone numbers, workplace information, and more.

cybernews.com

And that's a breach that still impacts users of the platform to this day.

You stated you drew the line at credit card data and that nothing like that has ever happened at Microsoft, well surprise, it has. Just as it has with pretty much every major corporation these days.

Now you want to call foul because your incorrect cloud cuckoo statements and stances are being corrected and questioned?

It doesn't work like that my man.

 

[peish]

Or just buy the games I really want and safe myself a headache.

It's a good headache to have

Did you do the $1 trick? If so this is not really a measure of value.
I think buying games and limiting them backlog is good for impulse control.
Or just go PC, games are super cheap via sites offering Steam keys.

Of course we all do that and love gamepass with it's savings, i dont think in history of gaming i got to enjoy dirt cheap gaming

 

[cireza]

So if Nintendo and Microsoft leaked your CC info 10 years ago you would've stopped gaming with them?

If they leaked it right now ? For sure something would happen.

Do you guys even understand than when you put money in something, you are actually encouraging the activity as a whole ?
If a company has shit practices and you give them money, you are validating these practices, including the low investment in security they make, and accept them leaking your details.

Linkedin is owned by Microsoft last I checked and this was just 2 months ago.

I don't use Linkedin. No CC data was leaked by the way.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

I don't use Linkedin.

So it's only a problem when you're personally affected? Doesn't seem like a very principled stance when you're trying to take some huge grandstanding over the topic.

The main point is, it happens to all companies.

 

[cireza]

So it's only a problem when you're personally affected?

Why would I care when I already made the choice a long time ago to not be a customer of said service ?

 

[GHG]

I don't use Linkedin. No CC data was leaked by the way.

Well thank goodness for that, the LinkedIn and azure breaches have only resulted in identity theft and sensitive government level data/information being leaked respectively.

As long as your precious credit card info is ok though, it's all good.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I don't think you understood my message. Please go and read it again.

 

[cireza]

"This company will leak your personal and bank account data on the internet".

"It won't stop me because I am dumb !".

Works Too.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

Why would I care when I already made the choice a long time ago to not be a customer of said service ?

So why do you care about anything at all? Why are we in a forum arguing? Why not have a rechargeable credit card that is topped off only when you need to make a purchase? Why do dolphins try to rape humans swimming with them? Why does the universe exist?

So many questions we could ask...

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

"This company will leak your personal and bank account data on the internet".

"It won't stop me because I am dumb !".

Works Too.

 

[Varteras]

So why do you care about anything at all? Why are we in a forum arguing? Why not have a rechargeable credit card that is topped off only when you need to make a purchase? Why do dolphins try to rape humans swimming with them? Why does the universe exist?

So many questions we could ask...

Personally there are two questions that haunt me. Why does a water heater have its own closet? And, if Teflon is a non-stick finish, how does it stick to the pan?

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

Personally there are two questions that haunt me. Why does a water heater have its own closet? And, if Teflon is a non-stick finish, how does it stick to the pan?