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[VanCityGamer]

The characters are the main reason.

It's called a hero shooter for a reason...

So you didn’t read my post at all then. I’m talking about what is being reported by the press and journalists who evaluate it. Not what the actual reasons are.

 

[Plague Doctor]

Why would they do that? According to articles like this IGN one, the characters aren’t even one of the reasons the game failed. I’m noticing that trend amongst pretty much all of the journalists - if anything, some of them praise the characters. It’s hilarious.



That isn’t what is happening at all in the press. They’re not even criticizing the characters to begin with.

Rereading the article, you are correct. The Press isn't going that deep yet.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

So you didn’t read my post at all then. I’m talking about what is being reported by the press and journalists who evaluate it.

I know, I wasn't directing it at you.

 

[VanCityGamer]

Rereading the article, you are correct. The Press isn't going that deep yet.

I don’t think they ever will assign blame to the character design unfortunately.

I know, I wasn't directing it at you.

Ah I see, fair enough.

 

[Gambit2483]

Concord Is Estimated to Have Sold Only 25,000 Units. Here’s Why Analysts Think It Failed - IGN

What happened to Concord? Why did a big Sony first-party game get sent out to die immediately? Is it actually selling badly, or are we just reading the numbers wrong? As usual when questions of this nature crop up, I asked a bunch of professional industry analysts to explain it to me.

www.ign.com

 

[Represent.]

never seen a big budget game just get so flat out rejected by the market before

It’s honestly refreshing. The PlayStation audience has never been about these types of games. Jim Ryan and company tried to force it on us, and it put them millions in the hole. Couldn’t write a better script

Fairgame$ devs seeing these sales numbers….

Is their game also some hero shooter with colourful locations and childish characters being marketed to grown adult men?

It will fail just as bad. And I can’t wait

 

[IAmAnAgnostic]

The game has 8.5k ratings on PSN. It's surely sold more than 15k on PS5 unless we're saying over 50% of people bothered to rate the game.

Spiderman 2 for example has been rated by less than 2% of people who bought it. Helldivers 2 is somewhere between 1.5-2.5%.

Concord reviews may be a lot higher but I think saying 56% of people who bought it rated it is insane lol.

Sales are atrocious but it's probably much higher on ps5 than 15k.

The game had a free demo, the demo ratings carry over on PlayStation. It did in fact sell this little, Steam numbers point to these numbers or even less.

 

[LRKD]

10,000 is more than I think anyone expected, compared to the peak of like 700 simultaneously players. In the past 3 days it hasn't even reached 200 concurrent steam players

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

Mega bomba, biggest failure in Playstation history. No wonder Jim Ryan grabbed his purse and ran out of the building before this launched

I'm happy it's a mega flop. Hopefully, this will humble Sony a bit and they'll get back to making the AAA single player games we love from them and slow down on this idiotic GAAS push. I don't even mind GAAS games but at least make original games or games based on IPs that people want to see make a return (SOCOM). I don't know the idiot that looked at Concord and thought it was worth blowing over $100 million on by buying the studio and totally funding the game. I could have easily told them the game would bomb hard just from the concept art and premise of the game alone.

 

[[Sigma]]

Hermen Hulst

. Tasteless hack.

 

[ithilion]

we can only hope this disaster will bring PlayStation to reason again. i don't want concord, astrobot, fairgame$. double down on to uncharted, ghost of tsushima, god of war(Rome next please fuck Egypt), bloodborne 2 and the likes of it. go back to greatness

 

[SidViscous]

we can only hope this disaster will bring PlayStation to reason again. i don't want concord, astrobot, fairgame$. double down on to uncharted, ghost of tsushima, god of war(Rome next please fuck Egypt), bloodborne 2 and the likes of it. go back to greatness

Keep my cute little robots name out of your fucking mouth!

 

[Rocinante618]

The all time high you're looking at is concurrent users. Not everybody who buys it logs in at once.

ah! I did a silly mistake, the Steam Chart numbers are users new and old! Everyday numbers probably add up to that.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Hermen Hulst

. Tasteless hack.

Wasn't he praising the game and how it would revolutionize gaming or something? Like Jim, these guy has no clue about the gaming industry and in a previous era would have been fired.

 

[Topher]

Moment of silence for the 25k victims

 

[dEvAnGeL]

At this point is hard to tell which Sony investment is worse. This, or buying Bungie……

 

[winjer]

At this point is hard to tell which Sony investment is worse. This, or buying Bungie……

At this point, I think the people at Bungie are glad there is an even bigger screw up, to take the heat.

 

[Topher]

At this point is hard to tell which Sony investment is worse. This, or buying Bungie……

My gut tells me Bungie is salvageable. Firewalk.....not so much

 

[winjer]

My gut tells me Bungie is salvageable. Firewalk.....not so much

Agreed. Bungie has valuable IPs and talented people.
They just need to reorganize and go back to making good games.
Firewalk, is in a very different position.

 

[adamsapple]

My gut tells me Bungie is salvageable. Firewalk.....not so much

Firewalk gets absorbed into Bungie as a new support / development wing?

 

[winjer]

Firewalk gets absorbed into Bungie as a new support / development wing?

That might not be a good idea.
It could completely undermine Bungie from the inside.

 

[Topher]

Firewalk gets absorbed into Bungie as a new support / development wing?

Too many inflated egos at Firewalk. They would just leave anyway. Might as well shut it down

 

[adamsapple]

That might not be a good idea.
It could completely undermine Bungie from the inside.

I would have agreed with this in 2022 but based on the last 12 months, multiple rounds of layoffs and staff being shifted to other SIE studios, they're already pretty well undermined from their own parent.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Too many inflated egos at Firewalk. They would just leave anyway. Might as well shut it down

There's probably a reason Firewalk has a lot of ex-Bungie employees.

 

[winjer]

I would have agreed with this in 2022 but based on the last 12 months, multiple rounds of layoffs and staff being shifted to other SIE studios, they're already pretty well undermined from their own parent.

That's why I said that Bungie needs to restructure.

 

[Ceadeus]

The money that went into developing this piece of crap, could have been money donated to charity, or non-profit organization or anything to make some community in need, a little better.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Firewalk is Bungie's team B, so they are in the same package, like the asteroid of the Deep Impact movie that split in two.

The only Destiny for both is to burn in a pyre.

 

[Hookshot]

How long until some corporate branding to recoup costs?

 

[Synless]

That’s around 50k copies too many.

 

[BlackTron]

25k x $43.00 is $1,075,000.00 more than Deadlock.

Why 43? Are we so desperate we're counting sales tax?

 

[Banjo64]

Links in to the Pussification of Video Games video.

Make games that are targeted at ‘everyone’ (but really only hard left type political activists) and the actual audience for video games (hetero men) don’t buy.

The social engineering doesn’t work. There’s no mythical audience of millions waiting to jump in to gaming and spend money if only they can make a game beige and gay enough.

Men want testosterone fuelled exciting power fantasies not ‘we’re all they/thems and this is safe for everyone and the goal of the game is to stroke kittens and bake cookies’.

If Sony continue to follow Microsoft down this road (the state of Game Pass and their first party at present ) then they will lose relevancy.

 

[ToneyJ]

Sony shutting down Japan Studio and buying the Concord studio, will be forever disgusting.

 

[yet_another_alt]

10,000 is more than I think anyone expected, compared to the peak of like 700 simultaneously players. In the past 3 days it hasn't even reached 200 concurrent steam players

There are plenty of people on Steam that just collect games and never played them. It wouldn't surprise me if 9000 of those Steam sales never even got installed.

 

[Salz01]

It’s uncanny to me….

 

[kruis]

Firewalk gets absorbed into Bungie as a new support / development wing?

Bungie's not exactly hiring, Sony recently fired hundreds of Bungie employees and moved hundreds of 'em to another studio.

The good news for Firewalk is that Sony promised three seasons of support for Concord, that should keep everyone occupied. Longtime support for a GAAS only makes sense if longtime players keep spending money on DLC, gear, costumes, etc. But this is only costing money, since the playerbase is so small and sales are awful. Sony will probably keep it alive because killing Concord after a months will be a PR disaster, but it would be the sensible thing to do. No sense in throwing good money after bad and there's no point in keeping Firewalk to create another GAAS to be released in six year's time since they have so many other studios already working on GAAS.

And like someone said here: Sony killed multiple great studios (Evolution, Japan Studio) who created great games because according to Sony they were underperforming with regards to sales and metacritic reviews. Well, the Concord sales/review disaster is many, many times worse.

 

[clarky]

Hahahahaha.

Eat a dick you woke clowns.

Fucking Chet. lol what a film that was. Nice one.

Gary theres a missile in the house!

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Bungie's not exactly hiring, Sony recently fired hundreds of Bungie employees and moved hundreds of 'em to another studio.

The good news for Firewalk is that Sony promised three seasons of support for Concord, that should keep everyone occupied. Longtime support for a GAAS only makes sense if longtime players keep spending money on DLC, gear, costumes, etc. But this is only costing money, since the playerbase is so small and sales are awful. Sony will probably keep it alive because killing Concord after a months will be a PR disaster, but it would be the sensible thing to do. No sense in throwing good money after bad and there's no point in keeping Firewalk to create another GAAS to be released in six year's time since they have so many other studios already working on GAAS.

And like someone said here: Sony killed multiple great studios (Evolution, Japan Studio) who created great games because according to Sony they were underperforming with regards to sales and metacritic reviews. Well, the Concord sales/review disaster is many, many times worse.

Concord being a disaster doesn't mean Japan Studio wasn't underperforming.

It does make you wonder what Sony's going to do with Firewalk, because all the studios they closed were doing way better than Firewalk rn.

 

[Herbspiceguy]

Still feels like a lot considering the catastrophical player count.

 

[bender]

Weird take considering part of the mission of that outlet is to review games and I'd guess if look through their review archives, some less-than-kind dunking has been done to unpopular games. Doubling down by some of the devs is natural considering how close they are to the project but there are easy lessons to be learned and it has zero to do with ideology as I can't imagine anyone, on any part of any spectrum, finds those character designs appealing which is the minimum you need to nail when creating a hero shooter.

 

[adamsapple]

If Sony continue to follow Microsoft down this road (the state of Game Pass and their first party at present ) then they will lose relevancy.

Ayeoo don't put this on us, take ownership of this Team Blue

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Sony shutting down Japan Studio and buying the Concord studio, will be forever disgusting.

This is what stings the most. Japan Studio, Bloodborne, Ape Escape, Sly, Jak, Killzone, Resistance, Infamous, and many more are dead and buried forever while Sony pumps this garbage out. Borderline insulting.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

This is what stings the most. Japan Studio, Bloodborne, Ape Escape, Sly, Jak, Killzone, Resistance, Infamous, and many more are dead and buried forever while Sony pumps this garbage out. Borderline insulting.

The problem with your list is many of those are SP games so the opportunity to mtx it to death is zero.

Some of the other games can be adjusted to be like current games with tons of mtx (shooters and racers where someone above said evolution studios).

I think the issue is they gave up in those series going gaas because they don’t have a history of that and if they did, then Sony gamers would be pissed.

So if you’re going to go gaas, you do it with outsider games or new IPs where there’s no expectations from the past.

Then again, GT and baseball have tons of mtx and they are fine. Maybe for certain genres they’d rather go new or external.

 

[larrybrady]

No and I bet they never will.

Fold this studio into another one and be done with it.

Oh and Sony, if you really want to make a fps multiplayer game, just make guerrilla go back to killzone instead of trying to make a horizon mmo happen.

If that did happen, I doubt these ppl would work on "normal stuff", they would probably quit on the spot if the material doesn't contain mostly purple/blue haired, 300lb females. I can't see the professor standing for such things..

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

The problem with your list is many of those are SP games so the opportunity to mtx it to death is zero.

Some of the other games can be adjusted to be like current games with tons of mtx (shooters and racers where someone above said evolution studios).

I think the issue is they gave up in those series going gaas because they don’t have a history of that and if they did, then Sony gamers would be pissed.

So if you’re going to go gaas, you do it with outsider games or new IPs where there’s no expectations from the past.

Then again, GT and baseball have tons of mtx and they are fine. Maybe for certain genres they’d rather go new or external.

The lesson they're hopefully learning from this whole experiment is that , yes - those single player games have no significant opportunity for mtx. But they are predictable, reliable, and can still deliver huge revenue figures. Given the amount that's been poured into these GaaS titles, and the looming specter of ongoing support over the next several years to keep that wheel turning; they're probably realizing that these games are also more expensive than they'd predicted and becoming super high risk.

But they probably won't. Here's Marathon, have a bad day.

 

[Barakov]

25k x $43.00 is $1,075,000.00 more than Deadlock.

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

It’s uncanny to me….

Same vibes but key difference is one is a girl... another is a man attempting to be a female.

 

[nemiroff]

I'm just astonished over the fact that it's even worse than many of us assumed.

 

[Banjo64]

The problem with your list is many of those are SP games so the opportunity to mtx it to death is zero.

Some of the other games can be adjusted to be like current games with tons of mtx (shooters and racers where someone above said evolution studios).

I think the issue is they gave up in those series going gaas because they don’t have a history of that and if they did, then Sony gamers would be pissed.

So if you’re going to go gaas, you do it with outsider games or new IPs where there’s no expectations from the past.

Then again, GT and baseball have tons of mtx and they are fine. Maybe for certain genres they’d rather go new or external.

The MTX issue is actually a none issue.

Fortnite, Apex and Rocket League are the zeitgeist. Everyone has tried and failed to replicate, because no one wants poor imitations. The next ‘big thing’ will be an innovator like Fortnite was.

What Sony should have done is evolution instead of revolution (tasking their first party with Horizon online, massive Factions game, Concord, Fairgame$ at substantial cost).

They should have just ported GT7 to PC day and date and had a million cars as usual but an exclusive car shop with real currency that has some amazing limited cars with amazing body kits/decals. They should have made Factions a smaller scale but tight project like the first game, ported it to PC and released some sexy apocalyptic rag skins for the female characters and added a battle pass.

Same for Uncharted 5 Cassie’s Revenge. Just add a load of MP battle passes and lingerie skins and they would have raked it in.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Almost 2:00pm here in California on a Saturday. Only 122 people on planet Earth are playing Concord on Steam.

 

[//DEVIL//]

I think if I released the Unreal Engine 4 free fps demo that shoot balls in a cubic area will get more sales than this.

good riddance to all the dev team. pure garbage. hope you don't get hired in any company even for minimum wage you talentless freaks.