Altered Juice
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it was to be released march 2011 but the pc 1.0 version was a piece of shit so it never happened.
Console exclusives on PC
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it was to be released march 2011 but the pc 1.0 version was a piece of shit so it never happened.
I hate the term console exclusive.
That said, if it means that PC gets great versions of more games without console restrictions, then I'm all for it.
I can now play SFV without the need to own a PS4, and without the need to buy a new stick since I can use the one I already have. All while most likely not needing to pay for online, despite being able to play with those on console. Like hell I'd turn that down.
That said, if it means that PC gets great versions of more games without console restrictions, then I'm all for it.
I can now play SFV without the need to own a PS4, and without the need to buy a new stick since I can use the one I already have. All while most likely not needing to pay for online, despite being able to play with those on console. Like hell I'd turn that down.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Exactly what you said, playing the Order 1886 made Bloodborne feel like a tedious chore. Bloodborne is probably doing itself a favor not releasing in the same month.
Hexa
Member
Different strokes for different folks.
Though PS is #1 in terms of library diversity.
No, that's PC. By a good green country mile.Different strokes for different folks.
Though PS is #1 in terms of library diversity.
Seriously, if there's one aspect I honestly can't see anyone arguing against, it's the diversity of the PC gaming library.
Domcorleone
Member
Exactly. PC is the best for all around gaming, the sheer diversity is staggering.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Different strokes for different folks.
Though PS is #1 in terms of library diversity.
This is true but as I was also very excited for Bloodborne the state of that demo does not lead me to believe it is a game that will be ready in march.
Rogue Agent
Banned
I personally feel great. I hope to see more 3rd-party games in the future.
Boombloxer
Member
And yet, the point stands--I could've thrown Demon Souls up there too.
If the "any other X" is the goalpost you'd like to move, then Halo, Forza, and Fable all fit nicely into that window, but that doesn't fit your narrative, so I understand if you want to ignore them. But you're wrong either way, so its all good.
That wasn't the point. Guy says "OMG Sony only makes AAA repeats!", this is untrue. You're more likely to see crazy things from them than the other two from a first/second party perspective, even if it doesn't work. Mr. Mosquito says hi. The Unfinished Swan says hi. Pain says hi. Flower says hi. Siren. Soul Sacrifice. LocoRoco.
Whether you like them or not is irrelevant, the point is that's not all they make at any scale.
why would you hope for something like that?!?! I wish all games were on all platforms including PC. That would be so much more awesome and easier to play whatever I want where ever I want.
Outside of the PSaturn days, TR was on everything. Ditto for Street Fighter. Dead Rising 2 was PS360PC as well. So it is pretty much just FF and a new IP coming to PCs being new while the others would have been on pc anyway.
That out of the way, I'm glad to see SF5 and DOA5LR coming to pc as I have no intention of picking up a PS4 for a while after Sony cut back on B tier game output and decided to charge for online mp.
Something, something, last gen hardware holding the game back. Seriously just stop by the KF2 thread where the game has already been ruined by being on consoles as well, or the disappointment when MK10 was revealed to be on the PS360 as well.
>More platforms = Higher budget = More sales needed to justify the development. Infamous SS, for example, can only sell 1 million copies and still be considered a good venture while only on a single platform. Add more platforms and that 1 million might not be as meaningful and just like that, no more Infamous.
Hahahaha, exactly! Keep em coming, definitely my preferred platform, when possible.
It's impossible to argue against. The amount and variety of content on PC is staggering. Especially when take advantage of the inate backwards compatibility of the platform. I only beat Planescape: Torment this year (and loved it). That's an old fucking game, Especially by console standards.
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
Banned
Is it really? Sometimes the other machines just cant facilitate the game
MidgarBlowedUp
Member
I think there are both positives and negatives. I mean, the only reason you get console exclusives eventually ported to pc is because the developer/publisher sees it as a way to make money. However, expensive exclusives can afford to be expensive because of the user base. Consoles provide not only a large user base, but also the same hardware across the board.
I'm saying look at the mobile gaming market, the market is huge yes, but how many triple A titles are on android and are the devs selling the game for $60 a pop? Would it not be the same for the pc market, if we didn't have consoles? And if we didn't have consoles, wouldn't pc manufacturers end up making standardized gaming pc's which in reality would be consoles, just more open and upgradeable? At least for a time, until developers get money hatted with gaming pc hardware manufacturers. Which would bring us right back to where we are now...Consoles.
Tldr: yes, I'd like to see a game like uncharted 4 on pc, but without consoles would the developer and publisher even bother pouring that much money into creating the game on pc in the first place?
If yes, then heck yeah, I want to mod a shirtless drake.
I'm saying look at the mobile gaming market, the market is huge yes, but how many triple A titles are on android and are the devs selling the game for $60 a pop? Would it not be the same for the pc market, if we didn't have consoles? And if we didn't have consoles, wouldn't pc manufacturers end up making standardized gaming pc's which in reality would be consoles, just more open and upgradeable? At least for a time, until developers get money hatted with gaming pc hardware manufacturers. Which would bring us right back to where we are now...Consoles.
Tldr: yes, I'd like to see a game like uncharted 4 on pc, but without consoles would the developer and publisher even bother pouring that much money into creating the game on pc in the first place?
If yes, then heck yeah, I want to mod a shirtless drake.
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
Banned
Different strokes for different folks.
Though PS is #1 in terms of library diversity.
No its not. Lmao.
That only makes sense if you have the budget and the money to afford it. Going exclusive is sometimes a better business decision.
Also usually a better decision for the games quality
Been thinking about this too, and I really wish it didn't exist at all.
I'd even be ok with some sort of check that shows I own a PS4/X1 and bought both versions if it meant just a chance to brute force The Order, Uncharted, SO, or any game on PC, even if just to get higher frame rates and resolution.
I'd even be ok with some sort of check that shows I own a PS4/X1 and bought both versions if it meant just a chance to brute force The Order, Uncharted, SO, or any game on PC, even if just to get higher frame rates and resolution.
ScepticMatt
Member
Though PS is #1 in terms of library diversity.
Steam alone has more than 3,700 games, and it is a small part of the PC market.
ps1 2418
ps2 2016
ps3 796
ps4 393
Mass Effect
Member
No, and there isn't anything inherently wrong with the sentiment of what you're saying, it's your tone. "Yeah, you fund all these different games. That's great and all, but why aren't they making games specifically for me?" I mean I totally understand that Sony (or Microsoft or Nintendo) not having games that appeal to you, but acting like they owe you a certain type of game seems a bit... well, you know what that word is.
But Guerrilla Games is making an open-world wRPG just so you know.
Final Verdict
Member
I feel like it is a necessity for any 3rd party game that goes exclusive (though I would rather it just not be exclusive anyways).
But it sure is good for the console makers when they can say "only on our platform".
But it sure is good for the console makers when they can say "only on our platform".
texhnolyze
Banned
This is true and it's indeed a good thing. More games for every platform is always a good thing.
Different strokes for different folks.
Though PS is #1 in terms of library diversity.
Not sure if serious..
I am definitely not misusing it here, you are acting entitled, Sony allow full creativity for their first party to make games and if you feel they are mediocre then fine, TLOU, God of War, GT, LBP, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Infamous, Sly cooper, MLB,, Motorstorm, Resistance, Killzone, most of these million or multi million dollar franchises and are popular
Yeah none of them get acclaim (Last of Us, GOTY over 200 awards) or sales, that is why they are continously being made, face palm, You basically spouted a load of crap without thinking
Sony's IPs are diverse (indies, PC games, AAA, creative AAA, story driven games, JRPGS), they give a lot of variety and mass appeal, you cant give everyone what they want cause not every one likes the same thing but you can get to a good amount of people which Sony ips currently cater to, your idea of an RPG isnt going to be for everyone who buys a PS4, that is why you are entitled, unbelieveably entitled in fact
Both Blood Borne and the witcher have action combat and RPG elements, that is all i need to know
As I said before, STICK TO YOUR PC, the less of you we have in the PS community, the better
Portugeezer
Member
It's only a good thing, even if you don't PC game now, in a few years you might have a better PC which could play those games maxed out or whatever; last gen I played Max Payne and GTA games on my PC and they were much fucking better than on PS2. MS/Sony don't seem to care too much about PC as competition and will continue to make true exclusives (Halo, Uncharted, Bloodborne). In the case of SF5 it will benefit the game by having a larger player community for online play.
Just know how to port beg, don't whine that you can't play Bloodborne at 4k 60fps.
Just know how to port beg, don't whine that you can't play Bloodborne at 4k 60fps.
mutatedwombat
Member
Competition over available titles leads to improved ability to lock up exclusive titles. There is no benefit for the end user in that.
Competition over hardware performance leads to better hardware.
If all games are available on all platforms, then the competition must be over hardware performance within a price range, and that is the best result for the end user.
Though PS is #1 in terms of library diversity.
Just to hammer it home; no, not by any stretch of the imagination. Steam has more games and not every game is on Steam. If you can dream it up, chances are that there's a game for it or a mod somewhere.
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Boombloxer
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I doubt most will care, as they'll be too busy playing.
Just like I'll have to decide if I really want to wait until GTA5 has a great mod before I get it on PC when I've beaten on PS3 and likely PS4 by that point.
Well, given that Star Citizen is up to what, 60M or something crazy, I'm sure that they'll be a few projects like that in the future. You'd need the right team though. And a lot of time. I'd love to see a few ultra high end titles like that to actually put my rigs to work.
The weird thing with me is I want consoles to have some exclusives even when I don't own them, I like PC gaming and and console gaming co-existing and feeding off each other. If consoles need exclusives to stay viable then so be it. I'm mostly a PC gamer these days but I play more genres that are traditionally console. I really dislike the outright dismissal of the other platform by both PC and console enthusiasts.
Also as an aside if consoles actually hold back PC gaming I'm glad because fuck buying new hardware all the time to keep up. Upgrading once a console generation is fine by me.
Also as an aside if consoles actually hold back PC gaming I'm glad because fuck buying new hardware all the time to keep up. Upgrading once a console generation is fine by me.
Eh.
Uncharted, certainly. Bloodborne, maybe. Driveclub, looks gorgeous but seemingly nothing compelling beyond that considering the other driving games around right now. Infamous looks like it might have been a big improvement on previous iterations, but eh, and it seems a lot are hyped about The Order, but it honestly looks very boring to me, and a lot of the action looks contextual/prompted, especially in that trailer with the melee fight with the monster/half werewolf thing- every attack looked like it was a prompted button press.
I mostly got my PS4 for a few select exclusives, and at least two of those are coming to PC now.
grandwizard
Member
Different strokes for different folks.
Though PS is #1 in terms of library diversity.
Haha, this has to be a joke. Steam has more diversity and activity in it's releases in one month than the PS4 has had in an entire year. All you have to do is look at how Sony has been using the PC as a way to grab some games that are already out there to fill in their barren early years, which is a smart move.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
After reading that Disgaea 5 thread, I'd definitely say a PC release is dire for every game, at some point.
Brings in continuous money and preserves your game forever.
Brings in continuous money and preserves your game forever.
So you're saying PC gamers say the exact same things as console gamers when a PC game port is announced for consoles?
Well, some genres control pretty bad with a gamepad so I can understand not wanting to play them on consoles but wanting them on PC
Before port of indie game: Who cares about those games? They are just crap indie PC games.
After port of indie game: -insert indie game list wars between ps4 and xbox users-
FeenixRising
Banned
looking at the PS+ threads tells me otherwise....
hipsterpants
Member
As a console guy I don't really care, but after hearing Sony say the word 8000 times during PSX I'm really tired of this term. It's basically saying "buy a PC because you can get all this stuff anyway." Like that isn't something that makes me want to buy your stuff.
Poimandres
Member
Are you a fan of/have you played the Souls games?
On topic, it's really great to see the level of Japanese support on PC these days.
Different strokes for different folks.
Though PS is #1 in terms of library diversity.
No. Way.
I don't even PC game, but there are gems like To the Moon hidden that are in such volume that it puts the PS4 to shame. You can't be serious.
Mizzou Gaming
Member
This has caused absolute madness in the List Wars Community, no one knows what can go on what list legally now.
ALLseeingEYE
Member
Is there stagnation and regression in the film industry because you can play every blu-ray on every manufacturer's Blu-ray player? Do Blu-ray players cost more?
Hell naw, the competition is just as fierce. I hope every game eventually comes to the PC, since the platform will always support every generation of game, it's like a digital archive, except you can jack up the settings, mod the game, and make it looks better than you often remember it.
Also, what would be wrong with only having to buy one platform? seems ideal to me. Why not just spend the extra money upgrading that one system.
Atraveller
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GHG
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Spyder_Monkey
Banned
FF14 is more of a PC game ported to a console but whatever.