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[manueldelalas]

Well, counterattack based strategies have low ball possession, but 23% is ridiculous.

Exactly, I don't see how this is excusable.

 

[Corronchilejano]

If you have an emotionally unstable player alone against all the defense of another team, it's common sense to try to provoke him.

By sticking your fingers up their ass and then dropping down like if someone hit you in the face when they clearly didn't?

I swear, instead of "crybaby" we should just be saying "soccer player."

 

[NaM]

Well, counterattack based strategies have low ball possession, but 23% is ridiculous.

Well, I guess that since the other team had 77% possession and was an unstoppable attacking machine you are right.

 

[manueldelalas]

Valdivia is a case of wasted talent. If he was constant, he would be the star of a huge european team, instead he chose to party, gain money in the middle east, and it's a miracle that he last 90 minutes now.

This is the typical play of the saints of the Uruguayan team.

He could have broken a leg here and stopped a full career, but who cares?

Sakuragi wants a word with Jarita.

 

[Magni]

Not to mention the guy who tried to gouge Vidal's eye out earlier in the match. What Jara did was shit, but let's not pretend Uruguay were saints who were robbed of a well deserved victory.

I remember reading the local papers after Luis's third bite, the state of delusion and persecution complex reminds me (up to a point) of the American South when it comes to the Civil War and race relations.

 

[Madrugador]

 

[Jarnet87]

Bolivia vs Peru tonight. Might just be the best game of the quarter finals, zero expectations. Columbia vs Argentina tomorrow night, there will be dives and fouls every 30 seconds.

 

[Madrugador]

I just noticed #ElDedoDeDios is trending topic /dead

 

[X05]

I was reading the comments in some uruguayan newspapers and the level of salt, OMFG.

Still, it surprised me to see some of them telling stuff like "lo de Jara, es lo mismo que nosotros hemos hecho durante años, qué lloramos ahora?" or "no podés pretender ganar un partido con un 20% de posesión del balón y jugando con un 1-8-1-1". Those guys know what's up.

Looking at what's next, I'd love a match against Perú. For sure it would be a match to remember. Perú is doing really good, kinda playing like decades ago. I like it

Newspaper comments are on a race to the bottom with youtube comments.

#dead

That picture is not accurate, it lacks mountains of salt surrounding the uruguayan flag

And fireworks next to Chile.

Lol, so much salt. Uruguay vs Chile is the new SA classic.

Uruguayans newspapers have no shame, they clearly saw another prerecorded match.

LOL not even close, as much as Chile wishes it to be.
Also, of those the only ones that's going for the sensationalist angle is La Republica and its sport supplement Tribunal, which makes sense because that's the shit they do (they are an officialism paper as well), and Tenfield because they are going to lose a lot of money with Uruguay being out of the cup (it's also *not* a newspaper). None of the others "have no shame" as you say.

Come on dude, unsportsmanlike conduct shouldn't be acceptable in any direction.

But don't you see, Uruguay is the supervillain of football so it's okay.

 

[justjohn]

Cavani is one sexy dude with his feminine locks. Cant blame the chilean dude at all.

 

[manueldelalas]

Victimization by Uruguayans is incredible. Let's get the facts right:

Did Uruguay play well? No
Did they deserve to win? No
Did they continually and intentionally kick the Chilean team? Yes, they even recognized so and apologized to Chilean players after the match.
Did Cavani deserve the second yellow? Yes, he intentionally hit a player in the face in front of the referee. No excuses here. Childish behavior, professional players should be better than this.
Did Fucile deserve the second yellow card? Absolutely, not only because of the force when making that dangerous play, but also because of reiterated fouls against Alexis the whole match. Really stupid of him to make dangerous plays while holding a yellow card. And no, touching the ball first is not an excuse to destroy the opponent, read the fucking rules.
Was the Chilean goal a product of luck? No, Pinilla had entered recently, and that forced the defense to mark him, because he was the only tall Chilean player, that is the reason Isla was alone and could kick freely.

Are Uruguayans overreacting? Lol.
What should Uruguayans do? Go cry to a church, or go cry to FIFA (which is exactly what they are doing)

 

[Corronchilejano]

Did Cavani deserve the second yellow? Yes, he intentionally hit a player in the face in front of the referee. No excuses here. Childish behavior, professional players should be better than this.

I agree with most of what you said except this. Nowhere in the video does it even remotely look like Caviani hit Jara, at least not enough for the spectacle he made.

 

[manueldelalas]

I agree with most of what you said except this. Nowhere in the video does it even remotely look like Caviani hit Jara, at least not enough for the spectacle he made.

It's very clear, obviously Jara overreacted, but that's not the point.

Was Cavani provoked? Absolutely.
Did Jara exagerate? Of course, Cavani barely touched him.

But, did Cavani hit Jara in the face in front of the referee? Yes. That's a clear yellow card, there is nothing even remotely arguable here.

This is childish behaviour, and Cavani should know better.

 

[Corronchilejano]

It's very clear, obviously Jara overreacted, but that's not the point.

No, it's part of the point. Have you noticed how aggressive games have turned out in this cup? I make no excuses for Uruguay, but the fact that players are actively encouraged to act out fouls and injuries that don't exist to get an upperhand is fucked up.

It's like watching a cartoon. And when Jara got Caviani booted from the game for what is basically sexual assault, you know the sport you love is fucked up.

 

[Oveja Negra]

I agree with most of what you said except this. Nowhere in the video does it even remotely look like Caviani hit Jara, at least not enough for the spectacle he made.

It's pretty clear he hits Jara, yeah... it's was subtle and Jara began to do the typical crappy acting that is 100% emabarrasing to whoever loves this sport.

Having said that, the yellow card that turned into red was totally right. As far as I can remember, the rules say something like "aggression or intent of aggression". You don't need to knock out a player to get the card.

Besides the reprehensible fingering, Cavani reacted in the wrong way, period.

 

[X05]

Victimization by Uruguayans is incredible. Let's get the facts right:

Did Uruguay play well? No
Did they deserve to win? No
Did they continually and intentionally kick the Chilean team? Yes, they even recognized so and apologized to Chilean players after the match.
Did Cavani deserve the second yellow? Yes, he intentionally hit a player in the face in front of the referee. No excuses here. Childish behavior, professional players should be better than this.
Did Fucile deserve the second yellow card? Absolutely, not only because of the force when making that dangerous play, but also because of reiterated fouls against Alexis the whole match. Really stupid of him to make dangerous plays while holding a yellow card. And no, touching the ball first is not an excuse to destroy the opponent, read the fucking rules.
Was the Chilean goal a product of luck? No, Pinilla had entered recently, and that forced the defense to mark him, because he was the only tall Chilean player, that is the reason Isla was alone and could kick freely.

Are Uruguayans overreacting? Lol.
What should Uruguayans do? Go cry to a church, or go cry to FIFA (which is exactly what they are doing)

Wow, you are incredibly delusional. But I guess that makes sense, given that this is probably the closest Chile is going to ever get to win anything so your view of the world gets skewed a bit

 

[manueldelalas]

No, it's part of the point. Have you noticed how aggressive games have turned out in this cup? I make no excuses for Uruguay, but the fact that players are actively encouraged to act out fouls and injuries that don't exist to get an upperhand is fucked up.

It's like watching a cartoon. And when Jara got Caviani booted from the game for what is basically sexual assault, you know the sport you love is fucked up.

I disagree completely; the fouls exist, and in the case of Jara, he didn't react like he was hit hard, but he overreacted in order to get the referee to see the aggression, which was very clear and existed. Had Jara not fell down the way he did; the referee would not have sanctioned a CLEAR aggression.

And lol, that isn't sexual assault; he barely touched his ass; I said it before, some people are acting like Cavani was raped or something.

Cavani should have never played that match, he was in no state of mind for it.

Wow, you are incredibly delusional. But I guess that makes sense, given that this is probably the closest Chile is going to ever get to win anything so your view of the world gets skewed a bit

Salt.

Next time, try actually refuting the points.

 

[Oveja Negra]

Salt.

Next time, try actually refuting the points.

You're asking too much, all those white parts in his avatar are made of salt

 

[X05]

You're asking too much, all those white parts in his avatar are made of salt

What Jara did is indefensible and the cards were absolute bullshit, so yeah, the fact that some people are defending and justifying them does bring out the salt.

I mean, this:

And lol, that isn't sexual assault; he barely touched his ass; I said it before, some people are acting like Cavani was raped or something.

seriously??
I stand by what I said, you are delusional.

 

[Santiako]

ChileGAF is getting embarrasing, at least manueldelalas and Oveja.

 

[Oveja Negra]

ChileGAF is getting embarrasing, at least manueldelalas and Oveja.

Stop crying and you'll be stop being called out. It's very simple.

UruguayGAF is just showing they can't stand losing a game.

 

[manueldelalas]

What Jara did is indefensible and the cards were absolute bullshit, so yeah, the fact that some people are defending and justifying them does bring out the salt.

I mean, this:

seriously??
I stand by what I said, you are delusional.

I'm not denying Jara's aggression; that should be punished; but let's put things on their own merit. This is not a bite; which is FAR worse; this is not a dangerous kick in the knee, or a tackle from behind (like the one I posted earlier, or the one that got expelled the other Uruguayan player).

So, are you saying that hitting one player in the face intentionally with your hand is not a clear yellow card?

Are you saying that of all the decision's Cavani could have taken, he chose the right one?

And I'm the delusional one?

Uruguay played like shit, they wanted to force penalties, they had a 23% (lol) of ball possession, which is something I've never, ever, seen before (let's put this in context; the other Chilean match, against Bolivia, 5-0; Chile, which was the complete ruler of the whole game, had 66% possession of the ball); and yet you feel robbed???? Amazing how some minds work.

Stop crying and you'll be stop being called out. It's very simple.

UruguayGAF is just showing they can't stand losing a game.

.

 

[ElFly]

This kind of thing would be prevented if the referee had consulted a replay camera.

The argument that it'd delay the game is null given that Uruguay stopped the game for like ten minutes afterwards.

Well, for once bad referees benefit Chile.

 

[Santiako]

Stop crying and you'll be stop being called out. It's very simple.

UruguayGAF is just showing they can't stand losing a game.

I'm not Uruguayan, I'm Argentinian. You two are just looking like idiots defending all this.

 

[Oveja Negra]

I'm not Uruguayan, I'm Argentinian. You two are just looking like idiots defending all this.

I said "you" as in general, sigh.

Can you explain what am I defending? Cause not a single time I said what Jara did was right, on the contrary.

And thanks to begin with the personal insults, very classy

 

[X05]

I'm not denying Jara's aggression; that should be punished; but let's put things on their own merit. This is not a bite; which is FAR worse; this is not a dangerous kick in the knee, or a tackle from behind (like the one I posted earlier, or the one that got expelled the other Uruguayan player).

"FAR worse"? Both are terrible things and equally indefensible, since neither are part of the fucking sport.
A kick is bad, but what do you know, *it is* a contact sport where you use your legs.

So, are you saying that hitting one player in the face intentionally with your hand is not a clear yellow card?

Are we forgetting that Jara slapped him in the face first before the fingering?
But I guess it doesn't fit your narrative so it's ok to skip it.

Are you saying that of all the decision's Cavani could have taken, he chose the right one?

Please point out where I said that.

And I'm the delusional one?

Yes, and very clearly so.

Uruguay played like shit, they wanted to force penalties, they had a 23% (lol) of ball possession, which is something I've never, ever, seen before (let's put this in context; the other Chilean match, against Bolivia, 5-0; Chile, which was the complete ruler of the whole game, had 66% possession of the ball); and yet you feel robbed???? Amazing how some minds work.

.

Given I haven't once stated how I felt about the match as whole, please do tell me how I feel, you clearly know better than I do!

 

[manueldelalas]

"FAR worse"? Both are terrible things and equally indefensible, since neither are part of the fucking sport.
A kick is bad, but what do you know, *it is* a contact sport where you use your legs.


Are we forgetting that Jara slapped him in the face first before the fingering?
But I guess it doesn't fit your narrative so it's ok to skip it.


Please point out where I said that.


Yes, and very clearly so.


Given I haven't once stated how I felt about the match as whole, please do tell me how I feel, you clearly know better than I do!

I said "you" in general...

I laughed when the referee showed Cavani a yellow card and then was like "oh shit! He already has one card".

And football is not a contact sport (but if Uruguayans think it is, it explains A LOT of things).

 

[Corronchilejano]

I disagree completely; the fouls exist, and in the case of Jara, he didn't react like he was hit hard, but he overreacted in order to get the referee to see the aggression, which was very clear and existed. Had Jara not fell down the way he did; the referee would not have sanctioned a CLEAR aggression.

I don't see it personally, and haven't seen the other angle where it is supposedly clearer, so we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

And lol, that isn't sexual assault; he barely touched his ass; I said it before, some people are acting like Cavani was raped or something.

Sticking a finger in between someone's buttocks without their consent is sexual assault dude. Whether you believe this to be normal behavior for soccer players or not (which speaks about the sad state of affairs in which soccer is) doesn't excuse it.

Cavani should have never played that match, he was in no state of mind for it.

Again, very, very sad state of affairs.

Also, let's cut the hate to each others countries a bit, shall we?

 

[X05]

I said "you" in general...

You were quoting me.

I laughed when the referee showed Cavani a yellow card and then was like "oh shit! He already has one card".

I was furious, because it was bullshit and Cavani already had one card.

And football is not a contact sport (but if Uruguayans think it is, it explains A LOT of things).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_sport

 

[ShaoranWright]

Taken from El Bananero Facebook Page xD:

 

[Cornballer]

Just a quick reminder to please remain civil. Don't insult other posters, and don't vilify entire nations based on the actions of a few players. People are heated because of last night's game, but let's keep the banter within reason so no one gets banned in this thread. Thank you.

 

[manueldelalas]

Just a quick reminder to please remain civil. Don't insult other posters, and don't vilify entire nations based on the actions of a few players. People are heated because of last night's game, but let's keep the banter within reason so no one gets banned in this thread. Thank you.

OK.

(this is how riots start in football).

I expect nothing from today's match, Peru should win easily.

 

[Santiako]

Alright, let's leave all of that behind us and let's place bets on today.

I'm gonna say Peru wins 2-0

 

[Oveja Negra]

Perú is playing very well, but so is Bolivia.

I think some people is taking the Chile 5 - Bolivia 0 out of context.

Yeah, we did great, but Bolivia reserved 3 key players and they weren't pushing as hard.

I still think Perú has an advantage, but I don't see an easy victory, at all.

 

[Corronchilejano]

I'm betting a 10 dollar or less Steam game to whoever guesses the final score. In case of repeated scores, I'll give it to the first who posted. Also, bets close when the game begins.

Personally? I think Bolivia wins 3 - 1.

 

[NaM]

I'm betting a 10 dollar or less Steam game to whoever guesses the final score. In case of repeated scores, I'll give it to the first who posted. Also, bets close when the game begins.

Personally? I think Bolivia wins 3 - 1.

I don't think Bolivia will win. Peru 1-0.

Spoiler

I'll take your free moneyz.

 

[manueldelalas]

I'm betting a 10 dollar or less Steam game to whoever guesses the final score. In case of repeated scores, I'll give it to the first who posted. Also, bets close when the game begins.

Personally? I think Bolivia wins 3 - 1.

Peru 2-1 since 2-0 is taken...

(you are awesome)

 

[Oveja Negra]

Perú 2 - Bolivia 1

 

[BomberMouse]

0-0 Peru will win in penalties.

 

[Tecl0n]

1-1, peru on penalties.

Gareca knows how to park the bus when it's needed.

 

[Madrugador]

My money is on Bolivia.

Perú 0 - Bolivia 1

 

[Ostinatto]

Bolivia is the Winner today.


Que genio Valderramas !!!!

 

[Ganzlinger]

Rooting for Bolivia win this Copa America.

The non-corrupted football, the pure ones, the legit football of the humble people, not these millionaires players with expensive cars and hot chicks!

 

[Oveja Negra]

Bolivia is the Winner today.


Que genio Valderramas !!!!

This has to be the first time I listen/watch Valderrama talking for so long. He looks like a very funny and chill dude

 

[Corronchilejano]

Que genio Valderramas !!!!

Man that's awesome.

 

[Ostinatto]

Rooting for Bolivia win this Copa America.

The non-corrupted football, the pure ones, the legit football of the humble people, not these millionaires players with expensive cars and hot chicks!

I think the same way when i listen to music. xD

 

[Ostinatto]

https://twitter.com/PepeMujicaDice?lang=es

 

[Regulus Tera]

Perú wins because of my friend mr. jett.

EDIT: Mujica has a twitter? nice

 

[American Eskimo]

0-0

Peru wins 4-3 on penalties after 12 rounds.

Neither team can score

 

[GoxRx]

But hey, we had the possession of the ball

Spoiler

ayy lmao

Good luck to both teams today. Peru has a higher chance if you ask me.