XANDER CAGE
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Consistently inconsistent.
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Dark Souls II |OT| The Dark Souls of Dark Souls
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Consistently inconsistent.
I haven't played any so don't take my word for it, but it seems to be a bit like Dragon's Dogma, where you have to choose between better framerate on 360 or no tearing on PS3.
CrimsonCommie
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Is any of the content from the beta in the final game?
Snapshot King
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Can you elaborate?
See You Next Wednesday
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This thread is ... big.
Asking this now, people who seen the streams or played the game. Does the game really look that bad?
The game looks more jaggy & looks to have much cheaper looking textures than the previous Soul games
Asking this now, people who seen the streams or played the game. Does the game really look that bad?
The game looks more jaggy & looks to have much cheaper looking textures than the previous Soul games
super-famicom
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Probably not a spoiler since starting stats are in the OP, but here's a Google Doc someone on Reddit made with the starting stats and gear(no stats for gear) for each class: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...Q2cDhkZzZDdmFJZ05USFRuTVE&usp=drive_web#gid=0
May not be 100% accurate since one of the Swordsman's starting weapons is different from the original description
May not be 100% accurate since one of the Swordsman's starting weapons is different from the original description
CountAntonius
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For those looking for some gameplay this guys has some good quality 360 footage. Few hours worth in a playlist. Quote to reveal.
A little disappointing, but Dark Souls didnt have the best framerate either, and it didnt bother me that much.
UnObtainium17
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Like Dark souls performance poor? because if it is, I think I could deal with it. excluding btown of course, that place is wretched.
XANDER CAGE
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Open areas or anywhere with prominent DOF/lighting effects dip quite a bit. The game really only feels like a solid 30 in tunnels and indoor areas without lights.
Kevin VanOrd over at Gamespot said that there was nothing as bad as Blight Town when he was showing off the PS3 version a few days ago. It looked great as well.
I am probably going to ask for this for my birthday... Or buy it with whatever birthday money I get.
However I passed on the previous two games due to lack of time and the fact that hard games have never been my thing.
But I do want to give it a fair chance.
Is there any how to dark souls for dummies guides or videos out there?
However I passed on the previous two games due to lack of time and the fact that hard games have never been my thing.
But I do want to give it a fair chance.
Is there any how to dark souls for dummies guides or videos out there?
Snapshot King
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God fucking damnit. What happened to this game?
Cloud Strife
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SJRB
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Game has a solid tutorial area to learn the basics of combat and movement. As for the rest, you're just going to have to find out for yourself.
While some of these don't apply to Dark Souls 2 (Like how Vitality is now Vigor and equipment load is Vitality), a lot of them are still accurate.
No, it looks quite good. Vastly improved animations, new cloth physics, and teh environments mostly look better now.
A Dark Souls for Dummies would basically destroy what the game is. You should just jump in, and figure stuff out, and die, and die, and learn from your mistakes. Slowly learn the mechanics and piece together the gameplay puzzle. Then you eventually overcome the difficulties and slowly master the game. Then become enlightened. That's like the whole essence of the games, don't ruin them with guides. Umbasa
Snapshot King
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Dark 1, aside from Blight Town, had a rock solid framerate aside from backstabs and ripostes.
Not sure if serious.
Snapshot King
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Didn't it? I don't remember the framerate dropping to 25-20 running through Anor Londo or Sens Fortress or the Undead Burg. Am I just being crazy?
For me, the frame-rate becomes choppy in the Parish and Catacombs when smaller enemies swarm you. The Centipede Demon murders the frame-rate, although it's hard to tell when the camera's stuck in its chest.
Are you talking about consoles? Because no it did not. It was something I got used to and didn't bother me very much, but it's framerate was not "rock solid" anywhere at all through the entire game on console.
CoyoteSpitfire
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Undead Burg was fine, but it could drop to 25-20 in Sen's Fortress. New Londo ruins was a framerate nightmare.
Grinchy
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I saw the rest of your posts about the framerate, but I'm still wondering about screen tearing. Are you seeing any of it in the PS3 version? The streams I saw of the 360 version were tearing all over the place.
If you didn't notice the framerate hit even at the Firelink Shrine, you may just not easily notice framerate drops. The whole game was far from a rock solid 30.
SJRB
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Any AOE attack would cripple framerate. Nito, Hellkite Dragon in Undead Burg, Quelaag, etc.
Snapshot King
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Jeez my memory is fucked then. Playing the PC version for too long. I just worry, I guess. Sorry guys.
Freezasaurus
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See, you saying shit like that worries me. Is it a nuisance, or do technical issues make the game downright unplayable.
Grinchy
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The performance on PS3 is something I wish I could forget too lol
As of yet, I have only seen people who have actually played the game weighing in to say while it's inconsistent, nothing like frame rate drops in Blighttown happens.
Mobile Friendly Version can be read now. You can find the link on the links tab sir.
XANDER CAGE
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I've actually not noticed any tearing on PS3.
There have been a few situations where I've felt as if the framerate has negatively impacted combat, mostly in open areas with lots of enemies all mobbing the player. It's also made some of the platforming run/jump areas kind of a pain, but I've always sucked at those so who knows.
The framerate takes the biggest hit whenever there are dynamic lights/shadows and DOF effects, like (early location)
Majula
Overall the game just doesn't look great. The toned down lighting would be forgivable if the game ran at a solid clip on PS3 but it really doesn't.
Freezasaurus
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Alright, that's not too bad, then. The framerate in Blight Town was horrible at times.
Metroid-Squadron
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There are a few good looking spots in the game but for the most part yes, it looks that bad. Couple that with this:
Compared to what though, DkS1?
XANDER CAGE
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Compared to the preview videos we've seen (which other people have noted as being playable on PS3s at shows). And yes, I think the textures and lighting are noticeably less impressive than DkS. Not that DkS looked perfect on consoles, mind - just that there seems to be a lack of ambient lighting in many areas.
Not all areas, either, which is what's weird. Right now I'm in a place with gorgeous god rays and sunset lighting everywhere. The areas I played through last night were flat, ugly, and dull. Inconsistency seems to be a theme.
I've been dipping in and out of the stream the past couple nights and I can totally agree with the dullness part. There are a few locations that feel like empty square rooms with no substance at all. Even one huge section of a major area.
TharpDaddy
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Is this purely due to low-res textures (i.e: something that will be fixed with the pc version) or is the overall art style lacking compared to the DS1?
Metroid-Squadron
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The major problem is the lighting, anywhere that's not lit directly by sunlight or bonfires tends to look bad and/or flat. They designed the game with better technology in place but at some point for some reason they ditched and that led to a lot of areas looking unpolished.
Pocky4Th3Win
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My friend brought home a copy of the game (he works at a popular electronics store) and I went over to play it a bit. It looked pretty good to me. It looked far better than the original game on console. I wouldn't compare it to the PC Version with DSFix but it wasn't bad at all. The frame rate wasn't locked and felt inconsistent, at times it was sub 30 and other times it felt like it was hitting 60fps. I didn't see many jaggies either but then again I was playing on a 60" TV at a pretty far distance.
Self_Destructive
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I know it's more than simply Ambient Occlusion but the amount of depth it adds to the image cannot be stated enough. Maybe the console versions had their environment AO reduced or removed in areas due to performance. Other than that, I think the contrast has been toned down a bit..but everything else looks the same if not better imo.
For example:
XANDER CAGE
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DkS2 actually does appear to have AO on PS3, but it doesn't add much. I could be wrong but a lot of walls/grass/items on the floor seem to have a fairly basic AO solution or approximation.
TimeEffect
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Mannnnn. I dont want to get the Collector's Edition, but it's so tempting.
I think I'll wait until the next gen entry hits. I just want that cloth map and artbook. hnggghhhhh
I think I'll wait until the next gen entry hits. I just want that cloth map and artbook. hnggghhhhh
Chance Hale
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It came out to around 133 with tax so I will surely regret it but oh well, wanted one to match the other two. Looking forward to Tuesday!
TimeEffect
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Maybe if I got my Dark Souls Collector's Edition... Stupid Best Buy didn't have any left, so I had to settle after days of waiting.
Antiwhippy
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Hey, I ain't saying that schierke is a bad character.
Better than isidro or puck anyway.
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