-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin |OT| Your weapons are weak, old man
- Thread starter VisceralBowl
- Start date
velociraptor
Junior Member
Is this a better game than the vanilla DS2? I have never played the original but I always prefer to play games in their "original form" - it's too bad there doesn't appear to be any option to do that in this remaster.
Am I better off sticking with DS2 or should I go for SOTFS?
Am I better off sticking with DS2 or should I go for SOTFS?
the new stuff Ive seen doesnt seem out of place, and actually adds to the lore (so far at least)
This is better, but a bit harder, but a bit more non-linear. Definitely the version to get. It is just a much more fuller world.
Alcoholikaust
Member
Just the amount of extra content you get with the added DLC makes Scholar of the First Sin superior-
I might be way off with this, but I kinda wish to see something about Dark Souls 3 at this year's TGS or something. After bloodborne I really developed a hunger for these. Just started Dark Souls yesterday for the first time. Combined with From having to learn new hardware and doing this port they are propably not far enough in development to talk about DS3 this year though.
Yes, but the items required to enter are elsewhere in the world (in places that somewhat make sense).
lost bastille boss is those 3 cunts at the same time right? ugh
cleared forrest of giants, got mah house key, and another estus flash shard in the house woot woot. These Souls games man... even if you dont remember them, when you play them again, just like riding a bike huh?
cleared forrest of giants, got mah house key, and another estus flash shard in the house woot woot. These Souls games man... even if you dont remember them, when you play them again, just like riding a bike huh?
well except the part where I die 20 times on the seocnd boss 
. . .only if you can't parry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6PaIpQic2k
It's about identical to what I was running on my PC. Not sure how it compares to the NEW PC version, but I don't see much difference, even in load times.
demosthenes
Member
Haven't played yet but this durability thing in the new game sounds horrible.
demosthenes
Member
lost bastille boss is those 3 cunts at the same time right? ugh
cleared forrest of giants, got mah house key, and another estus flash shard in the house woot woot. These Souls games man... even if you dont remember them, when you play them again, just like riding a bike huh?
well except the part where I die 20 times on the seocnd boss
Yes at bastille.
It's not that bad, definitely a bug, but you can live with it.
Alcoholikaust
Member
exactly-
Been playing some Scholar myself recently, I guess I can see why they got rid of shields in Bloodborne. They got a wee bit excessive in DS2, especially with this new one in Scholar http://i.imgur.com/qGxh9Zg.jpg
On a general note for gameplay tho, having done 4 or 5 areas now the only one I really don't like the changes to has been Lost Bastille
This is what I did too. Abuse the stairs to murder him.
@Hitbox discussion earlier this page I've noticed it too, hitboxes in scholar seem ridiculously weird compared to what I was used to from DX9 DS2. Like, I'm getting hit by attacks I'm sure I dodged and not getting hit by attacks I'm sure I got hit by. Its fucking ridiculous and annoying.
On a general note for gameplay tho, having done 4 or 5 areas now the only one I really don't like the changes to has been Lost Bastille
Four pursuer fights? Really? Was that necessary? Yes he's relatively easy but like four of them is taking it a bit too far.
I also don't like the changes to Belfry Luna, moving the Bastille Key has made it kind of pointless for any reason outside of Chunk grinding and allowing people to summon before they open the gate now is really lame (and they even gave a super tanky npc to do it with like come on)
I also don't like the changes to Belfry Luna, moving the Bastille Key has made it kind of pointless for any reason outside of Chunk grinding and allowing people to summon before they open the gate now is really lame (and they even gave a super tanky npc to do it with like come on)
This is what I did too. Abuse the stairs to murder him.
@Hitbox discussion earlier this page I've noticed it too, hitboxes in scholar seem ridiculously weird compared to what I was used to from DX9 DS2. Like, I'm getting hit by attacks I'm sure I dodged and not getting hit by attacks I'm sure I got hit by. Its fucking ridiculous and annoying.
Yup.
Yeah the animation transition is really wonky but that is a precise hit.
So about the new "shortcuts": is it just the same keys found in different locations or is there any actual new geometry in the levels?
Schweinehund
Member
Don't roll into his weapon side. Never had a problem with the pursuer once I figured out when and where to roll.
franbatista123
Member
In the Bastille there are Pursuers everywhere, what the hell
There are NPC black phantoms.
Yeah I really dont like it they went a bit too far.
NPC Invasions are a thing and they added even more in for Scholar
I always find it vaguely amusing that people use this gif to complain about hitboxes, the problem isnt with hitboxes, the player gets hit. The problem is with canned animations.
Primethius
Banned
That and it's mainly a problem of player hurtboxes, rather then enemy hitboxes.
Backfoggen
Banned
Well he gets hit in the leg. How about still hurting the player but not getting him impaled on the sword.
I find it highly amusing that everytime that gif gets posted there are like 5 people defending it while everyone with some common sense would acknowledge that it's bullshit.
Wrong thread lol.
InternHertz
Member
It really shows I'm sick at the moment...I believed you for a full 5 seconds while saying "whaaaaaa-" and then I understood..."oh."
I'm going back to bed after taking my medicine.
i got 3 of them in like 5 min... rip 10k souls
are they out and about, or behind fog doors?
dugdug
Banned
Y'all pretending like that's a precise hit in that hitbox gif.
Come on, guys. Like, ok, sure, the sword kinda touches the inside of his right foot, but, the animation gliding to the right makes it pretty clear that it *wasn't* supposed to be a clean hit. Anyone would look at that gif, and, think the roll should have been a proper evade.
Come on, guys. Like, ok, sure, the sword kinda touches the inside of his right foot, but, the animation gliding to the right makes it pretty clear that it *wasn't* supposed to be a clean hit. Anyone would look at that gif, and, think the roll should have been a proper evade.
why is dark souls 2 so damn ugly??
dark souls 1 and imo even demon's souls look so much better!
I think the biggest issue is that it's a grab (which are supposed to be more "sticky") that looks like a regular stabbing attack. It would be a lot less jarring if it didn't let the rest of the dodge animation play out.
As long as I fooled one person for even one second then this screenshot was a success
Dark 1 its debatable. Demon tho no way, its just DS2 has a couple odd textures that you're not expected to ever really super zoom in on (like a wall from that specific angle or a shield thats on one enemy you can't actually get)
Yep. Until your level your ADP, it will be a lot less forgiving.
What do you mean? they were already in the game
Primethius
Banned
DS1 on PC had fantastic textures/models and Demon Souls had a very bleak atmosphere. DS2 on PC for me was missing a bit of both. It's best areas had something to these effects I feel, such as Majula and Drangelic Castle (graphically speaking of course). Bleak atmosphere, the game did not have outside a couple of areas.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I realized yesterday after playing the game for a bit and taking a few screenshots that the game looks much worse in screenshots than it does in motion. I was actually pretty floored by Majula, but when I looked at the screenshot I took it looked downright boring. Not sure why that is.
It's on par with the PC version(I have both). Here's a few screens of the PS4 version, they're a touch blurry as to how the game actually looks. It's crisp as fuck in-game.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Am I praising the sun correctly?
Still the best gesture in a souls game. 3 player coop beating a boss and everyone doing this at the same time never got old lol
Stamina mechanics are WAY different. Roll before you runout,as there is a penalty to regen for a moment when stamina hits zero.
stamina is a lot worse (well not worse, but harder to manage), healing takes ages compared to BB, I also think its much harder than BB