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Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin |OT| Your weapons are weak, old man
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Well that's handy.
Dark Souls 1 did colour tone mapping for every area, with some areas having multiple tone triggers. When you enter Blighttown from the top, everything is green; after getting past the first couple of enemies it tones much darker, with reduced draw distance and a slight tinge of orange to the green. At the bottom, it maps to brown/orange with a hint of green, though if you look up through the pillars, the tone mapping changes with the bloom filter.
There is much, much less (overt) colour tone mapping in DS2, likely due to the more complex lighting schema/engine. The global illumination in areas like Majula and Dragon Aerie kind of stand in the place of it, though it tends to create less of a "mood" because it isn't as harsh.
blackprophesy
Member
I had the perfect Pursuer fight during my new play through. Parry first attack - 2 straight hits with the catapult thing - done. I was like wtf just happened?!
It still bugs me that the movement, iframes and parry/riposte in this game feels so much worse than Demons or Dark 1.
The combat in DkS 2 is so, so bad compared to the other games in the series, especially including Bloodborne. I hate the whole idea of adaptability, the stupid hitboxes, insane lock-ons of the enemy, and the overall fucking clumsiness of the whole combat. So bad.
Rant over. Gonna play it some more now.
Rant over. Gonna play it some more now.
Reposting for Europeans (a PC performance/tweaking/modding thread would be useful for this release):
Would anyone like to help test a DX11 DS2: SotFS SLI profile? We reckon mccompat10=0x880020F5 will work, but it'll take us a good long while to test a variety of game locations using different settings and different system configs.
With your help we can find a good profile far faster, and then get that out to every other player far quicker.
If you do test it, please post your findings along with your driver version and system config (a dxdiag posted to pastebin would be ideal).
Thanks in advance for any assistance,
Andy
NVIDIA
Would anyone like to help test a DX11 DS2: SotFS SLI profile? We reckon mccompat10=0x880020F5 will work, but it'll take us a good long while to test a variety of game locations using different settings and different system configs.
With your help we can find a good profile far faster, and then get that out to every other player far quicker.
If you do test it, please post your findings along with your driver version and system config (a dxdiag posted to pastebin would be ideal).
Thanks in advance for any assistance,
Andy
NVIDIA
ah yes, I forgot the fire sword, I remember that was a great early weapon. Still worth putting 2 points into dex to use it early on right, even if Im going STR later?
I mean I goes from 7 to 9 dex, im sure I can live without those 2 points for a bit (even if I respec later)
lots of turtle guys around now huh?
I mean I goes from 7 to 9 dex, im sure I can live without those 2 points for a bit (even if I respec later)
lots of turtle guys around now huh?
There are new shortcuts, in
No Mans Wharf
I found a weapon I had not seen in my DS2 playthrough, but it could be dlc. I never played the dlc.
The game looks great. Coming directly off Bloodborne, it still looks good, to me. But then again I adore the look Demons/Dark go for, swords and sorcery.
I'm on PS4, for what its worth.
AWizardDidIt
Member
One cool thing I found is the first turtle guy you find on the ramparts where you first encounter Pursuer is by some explosive barrels. If you just back up to those barrels and get him to swing at you near them, he'll blow himself up.
Kinda neat to use the environment to tackle enemies once in a while.
XANDER CAGE
Member
a lot of turtle guys who follow you further. This is fun. This is a fun thing to have in this video game.
You'll probably have to use ReShade. ENB isn't going to work on DX11 anytime soon.
Is that from the PC version?
I can't tell if this looks different from vanilla. I think it still looks nice, at least.
It's not that much worse, only if you read the NeoGAF threads
AWizardDidIt
Member
Dark Souls 2's combat is every bit as good as Dark Souls and is expanded in a lot of ways (a better dual wield system and a more fully realized magic system that is also not as overpowered as it was in past Souls games). It'll feel slow coming from Bloodborne but seriously if you loved Dark Souls then you'll at the very least like this.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Thanks to whoever changed the thread's title!
Intheflorsh
Banned
Turtle guys ain't shit, get a strike weapon.
Its still a great game and well worth playing. You should definitely play it.
super quick thoughts of the hour or so I played:
- dont ask me how much better it looks, I only played vanilla and I can barely remember it. maxed out 4k 60fps, I can tell you that much
- actually thats a lie, when I roll around breaking crates my frames go to shit, not in combat tho. dat havok engine :/
- I dont remember much, but I do remembr when new guys are in new places. its neat. I bet its even neater for those that put hundreds of hours into the game (I only finished it once, and didnt touch the dlc)
- I have to admit, now that we've talked about it so much, I AM noticing weapons degrade quite fast. But because I know that going in, Im actually walking around with 3 weapons and changing up in between them for different enemies... which is kinda cool? Like in the sense that im making the best out of a bad situation, im not excusing the bug (if it is a bug) but it sure makes me play differently
- speaking of playing differently, Im both using 2handed stance and especially rolls a lot more than I did before, shades of BB (which I just finished). Ive actually barely blocked yet (got dat blue shield now tho!)
- I forgot how cool some of these shortcuts can be. blowing up the wall with a bomb, or wacking the door so the mobs inside open it (ok that one isnt a shortcut but its so cool)
- man, is it me or mobs wake up much faster now? I think you could not aggro sitting down mobs before but now they all get up to fuck you over.
- also, the Pursuer fucks off if you drop from the platform, I didnt know that. I went to kill the bomb guy first, dropped down and off he went. oh well ill see him later anyway
so yeah, fun. just...fun. I know its "cool" to shit on DS2 but I liked it the first time, and im liking it now. Its a souls game, so...yeah
- dont ask me how much better it looks, I only played vanilla and I can barely remember it. maxed out 4k 60fps, I can tell you that much
- actually thats a lie, when I roll around breaking crates my frames go to shit, not in combat tho. dat havok engine :/
- I dont remember much, but I do remembr when new guys are in new places. its neat. I bet its even neater for those that put hundreds of hours into the game (I only finished it once, and didnt touch the dlc)
- I have to admit, now that we've talked about it so much, I AM noticing weapons degrade quite fast. But because I know that going in, Im actually walking around with 3 weapons and changing up in between them for different enemies... which is kinda cool? Like in the sense that im making the best out of a bad situation, im not excusing the bug (if it is a bug) but it sure makes me play differently
- speaking of playing differently, Im both using 2handed stance and especially rolls a lot more than I did before, shades of BB (which I just finished). Ive actually barely blocked yet (got dat blue shield now tho!)
- I forgot how cool some of these shortcuts can be. blowing up the wall with a bomb, or wacking the door so the mobs inside open it (ok that one isnt a shortcut but its so cool)
- man, is it me or mobs wake up much faster now? I think you could not aggro sitting down mobs before but now they all get up to fuck you over.
- also, the Pursuer fucks off if you drop from the platform, I didnt know that. I went to kill the bomb guy first, dropped down and off he went. oh well ill see him later anyway
so yeah, fun. just...fun. I know its "cool" to shit on DS2 but I liked it the first time, and im liking it now. Its a souls game, so...yeah
Yeah. Downsampling from 4K.
DS2 is a fine game. You should try it.
We melee characters have to wait for BB2. The combat in BB destroys DS2 but I still would not retrospectively call DS2 combat bad. It is most certainly fine. Calling it so so bad is stretching things.
It's certainly that bad compared to all other Souls games for me. It's still fine compared to other games, though.
SiegfriedFM
Member
I can confirm that the Drangleic Sword (and the rest of that equipment) is in the same place as always.
I can also confirm that Lost Bastille is changed a lot so far.
I can also confirm that Lost Bastille is changed a lot so far.
Intheflorsh
Banned
Is the only way to beat the
in Heide's through ranged attacks?
Dragon
SiegfriedFM
Member
I would assume you can rush it before it wakes up, and then deal with it in melee as usual. But I was too slow last time.
Testing on (rather tediously) a 32-bit patch for this game on a GTX 460 rig. Damn, this game downsampled@4K can still run on a toaster, rather interesting (or not) they still haven't unlocked the lighting/post processing/geometry shown in the alpha trailer...cause it's still there, just not in certain areas+DLC where it needs to be programmed in. Interesting to me and my roomate because we expected all that to be cut out, but not so... It also causes weird graphical artifacts that need to be fixed, but they could have at least just fully unlocked the alpha visuals and worked on the areas where it's not applied. I feel this is probably still a decision made to not kill the PS4/XB1 versions, because the full "alpha visual suite" it massively more CPU/GPU dependent. As in, for full game loading/streaming/etc on a SSD to be the same as "vanilla" you'd need at least a 760 SC/8GB DDR3/2500K at least or higher to run at a rock solid 60fps.
...and the 60fps bug is easily fixed through modding, From/Scamco didn't even try, they just wanted money, not to give a truly worthwhile "upgrade" that vivified $20.
Only thing I like so far "vanilla", is that you can farm the Heide Knight armor in NG, and certain enemy placements were a shock, although I wouldn't say better/worse. So yeah, rolling a SL1 char with a Heide Knight Helm in NG is I guess a plus. The Dragon in Heide was retarded, nothing gained except adding another dragon, which give mediocre Souls and no reward for chopping the tail... Was hoping for those improvements, like chopping off boss limbs for weapons...but no. Really lame, I'd have loved to see a much more aggresssive Ornstein and thusly his Dark Armor available somehow...but apparently the B-Team still aren't thinking. Sad to see a company like Fromsoft fall so far from grace, when they could have just waited for Miyazaki to finish Bloodborne and moneyhat DSII to him. But so goes the descent as did Capcom with Shinji Makami and RE and tons of other franchises killed by losing what they stand for....Ninja Gaiden anybody?
...and the 60fps bug is easily fixed through modding, From/Scamco didn't even try, they just wanted money, not to give a truly worthwhile "upgrade" that vivified $20.
Only thing I like so far "vanilla", is that you can farm the Heide Knight armor in NG, and certain enemy placements were a shock, although I wouldn't say better/worse. So yeah, rolling a SL1 char with a Heide Knight Helm in NG is I guess a plus. The Dragon in Heide was retarded, nothing gained except adding another dragon, which give mediocre Souls and no reward for chopping the tail... Was hoping for those improvements, like chopping off boss limbs for weapons...but no. Really lame, I'd have loved to see a much more aggresssive Ornstein and thusly his Dark Armor available somehow...but apparently the B-Team still aren't thinking. Sad to see a company like Fromsoft fall so far from grace, when they could have just waited for Miyazaki to finish Bloodborne and moneyhat DSII to him. But so goes the descent as did Capcom with Shinji Makami and RE and tons of other franchises killed by losing what they stand for....Ninja Gaiden anybody?
Dwight Schrute
Member
I was flipping out and remade my character like 5 times. Took hours. Kinda strange since it has never bothered me that much before starting this same game.
Got a nice face in the end albeit with a really edgy jaw area. Had massive problems with skin color evenness in the face, solved that by putting a circular tattoo covering the face as a sort of mask of makeup.. really nice result. Didn't notice the skin was that much more red elsewhere, if you have armor that shows a glimpse of his chest the guy looks like he was shoulders deep in a cauldron.
Hi Andy. I tried those compatibility bits you posted, I also played a bit this morning up to and around Majula with the default NV Inspector Dark Souls 2 SLI bits 0x02410405. Performance was fine with both(even looking down the well), at 60fps with no drops @ 2560 x 1440 downsampled.
This is using the 347.25 drivers with 670 sli cards.
I'll try and put a bit more time into it over the weekend.
http://pastebin.com/jAJ5CpJg
I'll be sure too hook you up with all "vanilla" info we have atm. Right down to the last wiggle of the tit, code-wise if you want. Still rolling base-SL chars and one leveling char and only so far as No Man's Warf due to testing. But forward and onward, we may even be able to supply you with a driver capable of running this on 32-bit OS's. Other than Namco/From know nothing about the applications of DX11 on 32-bit configs.
ooooooooooh
is the first boss, not
. man, this is fun shit coming back to you.
also, I was such a pussy when I played this man, I cooped every boss, most times without even trying solo first. I think I had come straight from 2 recent DS runs, where some bosses still gave me a huge hard time even on the second run (especially O&S), I just didnt want the hassle... but yeha, what a dumbass.
was easy as shit for example
the giant
pursuer
also, I was such a pussy when I played this man, I cooped every boss, most times without even trying solo first. I think I had come straight from 2 recent DS runs, where some bosses still gave me a huge hard time even on the second run (especially O&S), I just didnt want the hassle... but yeha, what a dumbass.
Giant
Btw, can anybody give me a full breakdown of ALL the supposed "brand new" armor/weapons/etc exclusive to this version. I'm running on empty after 48 hours and have encountered none.
Would have also been nice of them to release ALL the weapons reskins in the Majula chest for this launch (Black Rapier/Gold Greataxe/Red Ceastus) and potentially give them unique properties/scaling. But I guess that's too much effort to ask changing a few #'s around...
Would have also been nice of them to release ALL the weapons reskins in the Majula chest for this launch (Black Rapier/Gold Greataxe/Red Ceastus) and potentially give them unique properties/scaling. But I guess that's too much effort to ask changing a few #'s around...
I guess that was a good ole' Namco April Fool's huh? Not that I'm surprised. But a few new weapons/armor sets would have been nice if it was on the same level of thought and quality as the Bone Fist. Otherwise, as was probably the case with this team, who cares what irrelevant shit they add... It say's enough that almost all weapons in a class have the exact same move sets.
Yes, from the first Crown release, too.
Fuck yes, how soon can I get it? After I beat the game/end game, or before it?
This is GAF. Something is either worst thing ever and you're an idiot for playing it or it's a work of genius and will forever be remembered in gaming history.
jesus christ
is so hard, wtf
edit: man healing in Bloodborne is so easy compared to this lol. you take AGES to pop a heal, and then you get the health slowly back. Also, can mobs / bosses interrupt heals? like, I just used a estus, I lost a charge, but I barely got healed
Pursuer
edit: man healing in Bloodborne is so easy compared to this lol. you take AGES to pop a heal, and then you get the health slowly back. Also, can mobs / bosses interrupt heals? like, I just used a estus, I lost a charge, but I barely got healed
Mendax
Member
jesus christis so hard, wtfPursuer
edit: man healing in Bloodborne is so easy compared to this lol. you take AGES to pop a heal, and then you get the health slowly back. Also, can mobs / bosses interrupt heals? like, I just used a estus, I lost a charge, but I barely got healed
yes
chronologically it's supposed to be after the main story I think, but you should be able to go there after beating a certain boss guarding the portal. (down below in the depths)
jesus christis so hard, wtfPursuer
edit: man healing in Bloodborne is so easy compared to this lol. you take AGES to pop a heal, and then you get the health slowly back. Also, can mobs / bosses interrupt heals? like, I just used a estus, I lost a charge, but I barely got healed
I always dodge right into his dash attack, and back pedal nearly everything else, aside from the
curse spell
I have killed him
4 times now, he shows up a shit ton now.
OH SHIT
I just got hit with that bullshit hitbox you guys keep showing in gifs haha. I dodged the blue sword curse thing, oh wait no I didnt, I teleport back to the stab animation... come on now From
welp this is embarassing, I cant kill him haha, and I just finished BB with every boss solo
edit: haha exactly this!
I just got hit with that bullshit hitbox you guys keep showing in gifs haha. I dodged the blue sword curse thing, oh wait no I didnt, I teleport back to the stab animation... come on now From
welp this is embarassing, I cant kill him haha, and I just finished BB with every boss solo
edit: haha exactly this!
You need to grab keys for the DLC hidden throughout the game. They're not all that much further through the game, from what I remember of the lists, but it isn't as simple as rushing down there.
jesus christis so hard, wtfPursuer
edit: man healing in Bloodborne is so easy compared to this lol. you take AGES to pop a heal, and then you get the health slowly back. Also, can mobs / bosses interrupt heals? like, I just used a estus, I lost a charge, but I barely got healed
If you use lifegems they pop fast and you can keep moving while using them. Estus is more for when you know you're safe.