Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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So my girlfriend of 5 months has been ignoring me today. Been sending her several messages today, finally asked "Are you ok?" and she simply replied "Yep". I've noticed her responding to me less and less over the last week when we almost broke up (basically she said I had to hold her beliefs if we were to be together. I told her I don't. She said, 'well, I guess it's ok, i'll just not talk about that stuff when we're together').

Honestly I was feeling a bit disinterested in the relationship lately, and if she broke up with me I might even feel a little relieved. This is my first relationship and I don't have the balls to break it off myself (thought about it from time to time), hate hate hate the thought of hurting her. :(

You won't be hurting her if she feels the same, and she might even be breaking it off with you soon as well. I agree with hawkshockey, break it off.

It was your first relationship, honestly 5 months isn't all that long in the grand scheme, you probably learned a lot about what it's like to be one half of a relationship, you probably learned a lot about yourself, and I would just chock this one up to a learning experience. Making you stronger for your next relationship.
 
Finals week sucks. I know she is busy we talked for a couple of hours, do I try and grab a quick coffee or lunch or wait until she comes back from her parents after the christmas break?

Any tips on texting, I suck at it. I know women like to talk over texts while men like to just set things up.
 
Finals week sucks. I know she is busy we talked for a couple of hours, do I try and grab a quick coffee or lunch or wait until she comes back from her parents after the christmas break?

Any tips on texting, I suck at it. I know girls like to talk over texts while men like to just set things up.

Let her know something like "hey, I'm free ______ at ______am/pm if you want to take a quick study break and grab a bite to eat".

But honestly, this is like the final stretch of the semester/quarter for many people. Everyone I know who is still in school is pulling their hair out in stress. Be patient with her until finals are over if you really like her, and afterwards things will even out and you'll likely see each other more.

For texting just respond normally, but maybe be a bit more playful than you might be typically. Just let the conversation flow naturally.
 
I feel so trapped in life that the thought of ever getting a girlfriend seems unlikely and almost mythical.

Oh boy, back to the negative way of thinking again...
 
I feel so trapped in life that the thought of ever getting a girlfriend seems unlikely and almost mythical.

Oh boy, back to the negative way of thinking again...

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Snap out of it, man!

Go take a walk outside. Right now. And just organize your life in your thoughts. Take steps to improve your life, for you, and figure out what that first step is. Then devote yourself to that first step. Once that's done, begin the next one. Get out of that "trapped life" mentality, better your life, and eventually you'll find someone just because you're already happy and in a good place. Trust me!

GAF has your back for encouragement, as always, but the hard work is up to you buddy.
 
I've been on two dates with this girl and they have gone well. The only bad thing is that they've been really platonic. She is very reserved and wants to go slooow. For example, our first date started with her initiating a handshake. We only got to the hug stage at the end of date two. Now I'm more than happy to go slow as long as we're both working towards the same thing.

The gigantic problem I have is all the time between the dates. She is awful at texting and takes hours to reply. And when she does reply, it's pretty generic and empty. At first I thought the problem was that there was a lot of time between the first and second date and that's why the contact was so sparse. Now that the second date went well and I asked her out again, I see the same pattern starting all over again, which really bothers me. It's almost like the interesting girl I get on the dates has been replaced by somebody else.

I also see that she is still going at the dating site pretty hard, which is fine. But what I don't like is that today she logged on before getting back to the only text I sent her. Am I just being used here? What concerns me is that on that site we sent each other massive messages back and forth every day. Once we started texting, it's been a wasteland.

I know she likes me, but my fear is that she's so choosey that I'm just being put into a stable in case someone better comes along. It's a really shitty feeling.

What's your take on all of this?
 
I've been on two dates with this girl and they have gone well. The only bad thing is that they've been really platonic. She is very reserved and wants to go slooow. For example, our first date started with her initiating a handshake. We only got to the hug stage at the end of date two. Now I'm more than happy to go slow as long as we're both working towards the same thing.

The gigantic problem I have is all the time between the dates. She is awful at texting and takes hours to reply. And when she does reply, it's pretty generic and empty. At first I thought the problem was that there was a lot of time between the first and second date and that's why the contact was so sparse. Now that the second date went well and I asked her out again, I see the same pattern starting all over again, which really bothers me. It's almost like the interesting girl I get on the dates has been replaced by somebody else.

I also see that she is still going at the dating site pretty hard, which is fine. But what I don't like is that today she logged on before getting back to the only text I sent her. Am I just being used here? What concerns me is that on that site we sent each other massive messages back and forth every day. Once we started texting, it's been a wasteland.

I know she likes me, but my fear is that she's so choosey that I'm just being put into a stable in case someone better comes along. It's a really shitty feeling.

What's your take on all of this?

BOOOOOORING ZZZZZZZZ. Move on. Boring girl.
 
I've been on two dates with this girl and they have gone well. The only bad thing is that they've been really platonic. She is very reserved and wants to go slooow. For example, our first date started with her initiating a handshake. We only got to the hug stage at the end of date two. Now I'm more than happy to go slow as long as we're both working towards the same thing.

The gigantic problem I have is all the time between the dates. She is awful at texting and takes hours to reply. And when she does reply, it's pretty generic and empty. At first I thought the problem was that there was a lot of time between the first and second date and that's why the contact was so sparse. Now that the second date went well and I asked her out again, I see the same pattern starting all over again, which really bothers me. It's almost like the interesting girl I get on the dates has been replaced by somebody else.

I also see that she is still going at the dating site pretty hard, which is fine. But what I don't like is that today she logged on before getting back to the only text I sent her. Am I just being used here? What concerns me is that on that site we sent each other massive messages back and forth every day. Once we started texting, it's been a wasteland.

I know she likes me, but my fear is that she's so choosey that I'm just being put into a stable in case someone better comes along. It's a really shitty feeling.

What's your take on all of this?

Wut.


Seems like she's either not interested or not aware of how stuff works.
 
Wut.


Seems like she's either not interested or not aware of how stuff works.
Yeah, I know it seems bad. She is super smart, but doesn't seem to grasp how these dates traditionally go. I've been on bad dates where there was more physical contact, lol. She works in a field where she has to keep her emotions in check and it seems that some of that has spilled over into her private life.

I'm just going to stop contacting her and see what happens. If she's interested, I'll hear back from from her. If not, I'll have my answer too.
 
Finals week sucks. I know she is busy we talked for a couple of hours, do I try and grab a quick coffee or lunch or wait until she comes back from her parents after the christmas break?

If a girl wants to make time, she will. Even on finales week with just a half hour break for coffee or setting something up after.
 
Yeah, I know it seems bad. She is super smart, but doesn't seem to grasp how these dates traditionally go. I've been on bad dates where there was more physical contact, lol. She works in a field where she has to keep her emotions in check and it seems that some of that has spilled over into her private life.

I'm just going to stop contacting her and see what happens. If she's interested, I'll hear back from from her. If not, I'll have my answer too.
Yes, bail out.
 
I feel so trapped in life that the thought of ever getting a girlfriend seems unlikely and almost mythical.

Oh boy, back to the negative way of thinking again...

I don't want to sound too harsh but frankly you don't belong in this thread and getting a GF shouldn't even be on your mind. You need to concentrate on getting your life in order before you start even worrying about this.

You can't expect other people to be interested in you if you're not happy with yourself.
 
The gigantic problem I have is all the time between the dates. She is awful at texting and takes hours to reply. And when she does reply, it's pretty generic and empty. At first I thought the problem was that there was a lot of time between the first and second date and that's why the contact was so sparse. Now that the second date went well and I asked her out again, I see the same pattern starting all over again, which really bothers me. It's almost like the interesting girl I get on the dates has been replaced by somebody else.

What concerns me is that on that site we sent each other massive messages back and forth every day. Once we started texting, it's been a wasteland.

I know she likes me, but my fear is that she's so choosey that I'm just being put into a stable in case someone better comes along. It's a really shitty feeling.

What's your take on all of this?

Hey, it's like we're seeing the same girl.
Yeah, just don't initiate contact ever again. I should probably follow my own advice.
 
The first paragraph basically says that you've been doing it for the wrong reasons. I doubt all women at your school have formed their own opinion of you. Unless it's a really small school, how likely is it that all girls have even met or seen you? But if your self-image is bad as your post suggests, you are more than likely projecting that image. But you can change it, always.

Completely wrong approach.

There is no better time for dating / finding someone to date / figuring out how relationships work than college. You're surrounded by people your own age, all working towards a better future for themselves. A lot of people actually look for potential husbands/wives while in college. I know quite a few people who met their spouse in college.

wow so i actually forgot to respond to these posts because i hit an impromptu road trip about 5 mins after i made that post. had a ton of fun that weekend. bar tonight but its exam weekend so im not sure what to expect.

anyway i disagree that my self-improvement was for the wrong reasons on the basis that i know my own reasons for self-improvement.

i actually agree that college is a great place to find relationships...for some people. i have no interest in being committed at 21. the idea of that sickens me. different strokes.

i just feel...actually i know i get better run elsewhere. it's just like i'm not on the same wavelength than the people i end up encountering on a daily basis. sure, i don't know the whole campus. i just know my experiences. going to the beach this summer was really eye opening because i got treated so much better by people with a fresh perspective.

sometimes i think a situation just is what it is and you've gotten as about much as you can out of it. whether its a relationship, job, city or a scene.
 
I don't want to sound too harsh but frankly you don't belong in this thread and getting a GF shouldn't even be on your mind. You need to concentrate on getting your life in order before you start even worrying about this.

You can't expect other people to be interested in you if you're not happy with yourself.

Is there a thread he could go to?
 
I'm going to do it for sure. Hopefully it works out for one of us.

Heh, we'll see about that. I'm guaranteed to see her one more time just because we made plans to see The Hobbit with some friends and the tickets are already bought for the 15th, but that's the extent of my efforts. If things stay as they are after that point, then that's that.
 
Can somebody help me please? Newb as fuck here

Is there a general rule as to when you should ask to become official? I've known this chick for about 2 months, we have gone on a couple of dates, and a have hung out with her and her friends around 5 times. I know she is into me, but I haven't kissed her yet. Should I at least kiss her before I ask her? Is it way too early to ask?

The bigger question is how do I ask her? I have never had this opportunity, I'm somewhat of a loser :/

That's about when I asked to become official, just do it.
 
Can somebody help me please? Newb as fuck here

Is there a general rule as to when you should ask to become official? I've known this chick for about 2 months, we have gone on a couple of dates, and a have hung out with her and her friends around 5 times. I know she is into me, but I haven't kissed her yet. Should I at least kiss her before I ask her? Is it way too early to ask?

The bigger question is how do I ask her? I have never had this opportunity, I'm somewhat of a loser :/

Physical contact required. Go have drinks, get a comfy couch somewhere, get close, kiss her. Have sex a bunch. See each other more. This isn't even on the table at the moment.
 
Alright GAF so I have date with this girl on Monday, this will be first date in six years so I could use your guys' advice. This girl and I have already talked a lot in school but this will be the first time we go out on a date, and even though I haven't gone on a date in six years I still remember that my main problem with dates is that I'm deathly afraid of "awkward" moments of silence. I start thinking that it might happen and I end fucking up by saying something stupid.

Basically, any advice on how to keep the date smooth and fluid? Any suggested topics, questions?
 
I just did the worst thing someone with terrible OCD can do. I had a one night stand and one of the two times we had sex I did not use a condom. I'm no good at getting condoms on and the second time we had sex I guess I was putting it on inside out, so it wasn't moving at all. I said, "I need another one. I tried to put this one on inside out." She said she was on the pill so it was okay and at that point I was not in the right mind to insist on getting another condom.

So, if she is on the pill, I'm probably okay. However, my OCD is driving me insane to the point where I cannot eat and just want to sleep so I don't have to deal with this incredible anxiety. And it's bad. I was literally freaking out on the inside at her place and like looking through her medicine cabinets looking for evidence that she actually had the pills.

This isn't the first time I've freaked out about something like this, but it is the first time I've not used a condom.

Now I'm a complete wreck. I really am in no condition to have sex without at least two forms of birth control, and now I keep hoping that she wasn't lying about being on the pill.

I must be crazy, right? She wouldn't have lied about being on the pill? And if she's on the pill, I'm in the clear, right? I'm going insane.
 
I just did the worst thing someone with terrible OCD can do. I had a one night stand and one of the two times we had sex I did not use a condom. I'm no good at getting condoms on and the second time we had sex I guess I was putting it on inside out, so it wasn't moving at all. I said, "I need another one. I tried to put this one on inside out." She said she was on the pill so it was okay and at that point I was not in the right mind to insist on getting another condom.

So, if she is on the pill, I'm probably okay. However, my OCD is driving me insane to the point where I cannot eat and just want to sleep so I don't have to deal with this incredible anxiety. And it's bad. I was literally freaking out on the inside at her place and like looking through her medicine cabinets looking for evidence that she actually had the pills.

This isn't the first time I've freaked out about something like this, but it is the first time I've not used a condom.

Now I'm a complete wreck. I really am in no condition to have sex without at least two forms of birth control, and now I keep hoping that she wasn't lying about being on the pill.

I must be crazy, right? She wouldn't have lied about being on the pill? And if she's on the pill, I'm in the clear, right? I'm going insane.

You didn't actually come in her, did you? If so, you're dumb, but I'd be more worried about std's than getting someone pregnant on a one night stand with no protection. Women don't get pregnant that easily.. Did you know her or was she a random pickup? Also, chill out.. goin through her shit lookin for pills lol. Geezus she picked a winner.
 
You didn't actually come in her, did you? If so, you're dumb, but I'd be more worried about std's than getting someone pregnant on a one night stand with no protection. Women don't get pregnant that easily.. Did you know her or was she a random pickup? Also, chill out.. goin through her shit lookin for pills lol. Geezus she picked a winner.

I had never met her before. And yes, I was stupid enough to come in her. We were both really drunk...

She's like over 35 so that makes me feel a bit better. Still, my OCD is crippling.
 
Man.. I don't get how it's so difficult for some people to just pull out or finish in another way, especially if you're in a stupid situation like that. As you're seeing now, it's not worth the headache. Ah well, nothing you can do now but blame it on the alcohol.
 
I just did the worst thing someone with terrible OCD can do. I had a one night stand and one of the two times we had sex I did not use a condom. I'm no good at getting condoms on and the second time we had sex I guess I was putting it on inside out, so it wasn't moving at all. I said, "I need another one. I tried to put this one on inside out." She said she was on the pill so it was okay and at that point I was not in the right mind to insist on getting another condom.

So, if she is on the pill, I'm probably okay. However, my OCD is driving me insane to the point where I cannot eat and just want to sleep so I don't have to deal with this incredible anxiety. And it's bad. I was literally freaking out on the inside at her place and like looking through her medicine cabinets looking for evidence that she actually had the pills.

This isn't the first time I've freaked out about something like this, but it is the first time I've not used a condom.

Now I'm a complete wreck. I really am in no condition to have sex without at least two forms of birth control, and now I keep hoping that she wasn't lying about being on the pill.

I must be crazy, right? She wouldn't have lied about being on the pill? And if she's on the pill, I'm in the clear, right? I'm going insane.

At this point it's more likely you have an STD than her getting preggers.
 
wow so i actually forgot to respond to these posts because i hit an impromptu road trip about 5 mins after i made that post. had a ton of fun that weekend. bar tonight but its exam weekend so im not sure what to expect.

anyway i disagree that my self-improvement was for the wrong reasons on the basis that i know my own reasons for self-improvement.

i actually agree that college is a great place to find relationships...for some people. i have no interest in being committed at 21. the idea of that sickens me. different strokes.

i just feel...actually i know i get better run elsewhere. it's just like i'm not on the same wavelength than the people i end up encountering on a daily basis. sure, i don't know the whole campus. i just know my experiences. going to the beach this summer was really eye opening because i got treated so much better by people with a fresh perspective.

sometimes i think a situation just is what it is and you've gotten as about much as you can out of it. whether its a relationship, job, city or a scene.
You're right. With that mindset, you are absolutely right. I only assumed your reasons were wrong based on the tone of your post. As long as you believe that college is only good for some people, that will be your experience. Nothing will change that as long as you don't change your opinion. There are more than likely plenty of single people in college who just want to screw around, if that's your cup of tea. Relationships != committed and/or getting tied down. Same thing with knowing you get better responses in other places. I actually feel the same way, that's partly why I only party downtown these days. But that is all a story in my head and it's not necessarily the whole truth, it's just how I perceive my surroundings. If you stop believing what you believe, as it's clear that it does you no real good thinking that way, you will have new experiences that differ from your current ones. Your "it is what it is" mentality is keeping you and your life the way it is. Nothing else.

Alright GAF so I have date with this girl on Monday, this will be first date in six years so I could use your guys' advice. This girl and I have already talked a lot in school but this will be the first time we go out on a date, and even though I haven't gone on a date in six years I still remember that my main problem with dates is that I'm deathly afraid of "awkward" moments of silence. I start thinking that it might happen and I end fucking up by saying something stupid.

Basically, any advice on how to keep the date smooth and fluid? Any suggested topics, questions?
Try getting to know her :P And connect with her. That's the purpose of the date, isn't it? As long as you keep thinking about your past experiences and "failures", you will bring them with you into the future and you may very well be manifesting them subconsciously. So keep the past in the past. Awkward silences are apparently generally even worse for women (I can't point to some scientific study) so don't sweat it so much. Make a joke about it, ease the mood if it happens. It will only be truly awkward if *you* make it so. *You* give it that power, not the term itself. And stop saying to yourself that you continue to fuck this up by saying something stupid. Stuff like that make sure it continues to happen. I won't give any topics to talk about, you're gonna have to figure that out on your own, and hopefully she brings something to the table too. It's 50/50 after all.

I had never met her before. And yes, I was stupid enough to come in her. We were both really drunk...

She's like over 35 so that makes me feel a bit better. Still, my OCD is crippling.
If you actually went through her medicine bottles and your OCD truly is crippling, you probably shouldn't do these kinds of things. Because that's pretty messed up tbh. Go get checked for STD's asap and stay away from the ladies until you've worked on yourself some more imho.
 
hello dating-gaf, I need some advice. First, let me apologize in advance if anything sounds douchey here. okay, so I am trying to look for a date however there is no one appealing to me at work, personality appealing or otherwise, and I do not do nightclubs. as for personal failings let me just list them(note: I'm 26 years old):

1. I can't drive, I don't even have my operators yet. Reason being is because my parents were terrible teachers and would constantly shout and I left every session shaking. I never bothered to obtain my operators because of it. I'm ashamed of it to this day and i make up a reason why I don't have a license to my friends.

2. I still live at home with my parents. note: other than the roof over my head, I don't mooch off of them. hell, I helped paid thier taxes this year on top of my own.

3. regarding my social akwardness, between a scale of 1- 10, I would rate myself 7.5. I have trouble making eye contact, I studder at times even in front of friends. I got to socail gatherings but I always find myself outside of the group. Even when I try talking to others i always get talked over and I get cut out of the convosation entirely.


so, I'm screwed aren't I?
 
hello dating-gaf, I need some advice. First, let me apologize in advance if anything sounds douchey here. okay, so I am trying to look for a date however there is no one appealing to me at work, personality appealing or otherwise, and I do not do nightclubs. as for personal failings let me just list them(note: I'm 26 years old):

1. I can't drive, I don't even have my operators yet. Reason being is because my parents were terrible teachers and would constantly shout and I left every session shaking. I never bothered to obtain my operators because of it. I'm ashamed of it to this day and i make up a reason why I don't have a license to my friends.

2. I still live at home with my parents. note: other than the roof over my head, I don't mooch off of them. hell, I helped paid thier taxes this year on top of my own.

3. regarding my social akwardness, between a scale of 1- 10, I would rate myself 7.5. I have trouble making eye contact, I studder at times even in front of friends. I got to socail gatherings but I always find myself outside of the group. Even when I try talking to others i always get talked over and I get cut out of the convosation entirely.


so, I'm screwed aren't I?

Well... what do you look like?
 
not good at all.

Hmmm

Have you tried to work on your social awkwardness?

I'm pretty awkward but its gotten better by just trying to be more social. There are a lot of books on the subject.

I read a book called how to win friends and influence people and it had some good tips.

Do you have problems making eye contact with everyone or just males?
 
Hmmm

Have you tried to work on your social awkwardness?

I'm pretty awkward but its gotten better by just trying to be more social. There are a lot of books on the subject.

I read a book called how to win friends and influence people and it had some good tips.

Do you have problems making eye contact with everyone or just males?

pretty much everyone I talked to.
I'll try to read that book you mentioned, I'll look for it in the libary somewhere.
 
How to Win Friends and Influence People was one of the first of it's time and was required in a number of business classes. I urge you to read it as well.

On another note, I love reading this thread seeing people's dating problems and how they resolve themselves. I wouldn't be the best at helping though. lol
 
hello dating-gaf, I need some advice. First, let me apologize in advance if anything sounds douchey here. okay, so I am trying to look for a date however there is no one appealing to me at work, personality appealing or otherwise, and I do not do nightclubs. as for personal failings let me just list them(note: I'm 26 years old):

1. I can't drive, I don't even have my operators yet. Reason being is because my parents were terrible teachers and would constantly shout and I left every session shaking. I never bothered to obtain my operators because of it. I'm ashamed of it to this day and i make up a reason why I don't have a license to my friends.

2. I still live at home with my parents. note: other than the roof over my head, I don't mooch off of them. hell, I helped paid thier taxes this year on top of my own.

3. regarding my social akwardness, between a scale of 1- 10, I would rate myself 7.5. I have trouble making eye contact, I studder at times even in front of friends. I got to socail gatherings but I always find myself outside of the group. Even when I try talking to others i always get talked over and I get cut out of the convosation entirely.


so, I'm screwed aren't I?
No. For 1 you can hire a driving instructor to learn how to drive. Keep taking lessons until you are ready.

For 3 you chose 7.5, and not 8, 9, or 10 meaning you can still overcome it.
 
hello dating-gaf, I need some advice. First, let me apologize in advance if anything sounds douchey here. okay, so I am trying to look for a date however there is no one appealing to me at work, personality appealing or otherwise, and I do not do nightclubs. as for personal failings let me just list them(note: I'm 26 years old):

1. I can't drive, I don't even have my operators yet. Reason being is because my parents were terrible teachers and would constantly shout and I left every session shaking. I never bothered to obtain my operators because of it. I'm ashamed of it to this day and i make up a reason why I don't have a license to my friends.

2. I still live at home with my parents. note: other than the roof over my head, I don't mooch off of them. hell, I helped paid thier taxes this year on top of my own.

3. regarding my social akwardness, between a scale of 1- 10, I would rate myself 7.5. I have trouble making eye contact, I studder at times even in front of friends. I got to socail gatherings but I always find myself outside of the group. Even when I try talking to others i always get talked over and I get cut out of the convosation entirely.


so, I'm screwed aren't I?

If you're this self-aware there is no way you're screwed. Start talking to everybody, including the dude who bags your groceries and make eye contact when you do.
 
I just did the worst thing someone with terrible OCD can do. I had a one night stand and one of the two times we had sex I did not use a condom. I'm no good at getting condoms on and the second time we had sex I guess I was putting it on inside out, so it wasn't moving at all. I said, "I need another one. I tried to put this one on inside out." She said she was on the pill so it was okay and at that point I was not in the right mind to insist on getting another condom.

So, if she is on the pill, I'm probably okay. However, my OCD is driving me insane to the point where I cannot eat and just want to sleep so I don't have to deal with this incredible anxiety. And it's bad. I was literally freaking out on the inside at her place and like looking through her medicine cabinets looking for evidence that she actually had the pills.

This isn't the first time I've freaked out about something like this, but it is the first time I've not used a condom.

Now I'm a complete wreck. I really am in no condition to have sex without at least two forms of birth control, and now I keep hoping that she wasn't lying about being on the pill.

I must be crazy, right? She wouldn't have lied about being on the pill? And if she's on the pill, I'm in the clear, right? I'm going insane.

Name your first born after me.
 
Could use some advice GAF. I asked a girl that I have been working on for a while out
on Friday night and got her number. I told her we would sort out the details later. When should I contact her to get all of this figured out?

Also, call or text? In person I am really chatty and sociable but I loathe talking on the phone and always have.
 
hello dating-gaf, I need some advice. First, let me apologize in advance if anything sounds douchey here. okay, so I am trying to look for a date however there is no one appealing to me at work, personality appealing or otherwise, and I do not do nightclubs. as for personal failings let me just list them(note: I'm 26 years old):

1. I can't drive, I don't even have my operators yet. Reason being is because my parents were terrible teachers and would constantly shout and I left every session shaking. I never bothered to obtain my operators because of it. I'm ashamed of it to this day and i make up a reason why I don't have a license to my friends.

2. I still live at home with my parents. note: other than the roof over my head, I don't mooch off of them. hell, I helped paid thier taxes this year on top of my own.

3. regarding my social akwardness, between a scale of 1- 10, I would rate myself 7.5. I have trouble making eye contact, I studder at times even in front of friends. I got to socail gatherings but I always find myself outside of the group. Even when I try talking to others i always get talked over and I get cut out of the convosation entirely.


so, I'm screwed aren't I?

1) Learn to drive. If nothing else, explain the situation to your friends and ask them to teach you. Don't let your embarrassment prevent you from learning -- be humble and find a teacher. Shouldn't your parents be able to teach you?

2) If you have the money to help pay their taxes on top of your own, you likely have enough to find your own place. I don't know the full situation, of course -- the cost of living in your city, how much you make, etc. -- but if you've got the cash, find a cheap apartment and strike out on your own. There's no reason to be living with your parents at 26 if you've got a job and the cash to make rent/utilities. Is this related to the fact that you can't drive?

3) I understand this completely. I was always pretty social as a young child, but once I hit junior high I began retreating into video games and Internet message boards and my social skills took a huge hit. I was so bad at talking to people (especially girls) because I didn't do it enough. I didn't hang out with friends after school or go to parties or anything. I just stayed home and played games and talked to strangers online, which is not the same thing as interacting with people in person.

I'm not exactly the epitome of cool now (I'm 21) -- I still occasionally struggle in social situations and my skills with women are generally poor. But I've made big steps in the past couple of years just by putting myself out there more. I still have problems in front of groups -- I had to give a presentation in a class this semester and mumbled and stumbled over my words constantly because I was so nervous -- and I naturally have something of a mumbly speaking voice anyway. But I've worked on it and I'm not longer a social pariah. I have friends and get along with people and though I've still only had one real relationship, I've gotten better with women.

It's good that you want to change. I reached a point where I just couldn't tolerate my social ineptitude any longer and started the long road of making much-needed changes. I'm still very much a work in progress. Don't get discouraged and don't shy away from changing aspects of your life.

The thing about women is that you have to work on yourself before you can worry about a relationship. If there's major aspects of your life that need fixing, fix them before you seek companionship. If you're out of shape, get in the gym. Read books and learn things. Do interesting things like traveling, performing in a band, etc. Make yourself a stronger person and that will translate into more interest from the opposite sex. (Though I would note not to do things just because you think it might get you laid -- do things for your own personal and intellectual satisfaction.)

Good luck, man.

Could use some advice GAF. I asked a girl that I have been working on for a while out
on Friday night and got her number. I told her we would sort out the details later. When should I contact her to get all of this figured out?

Also, call or text? In person I am really chatty and sociable but I loathe talking on the phone and always have.

I'd probably text, especially if you dislike phone conversations. You aren't going to kill the attraction by texting instead of calling.

As for when you should contact her, I don't know. I've never been good at that particular balancing act. I'll let someone else handle that one.
 
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