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DC Universe Rebirth Begins This May
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Of course I would
That was my dream, it would have been great
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
They never take my offers either, brah.
Im not buying this. I dont think dc would do something this stupid. Unless the plan is to focus on another timeline this seems rather foolish
If I get in, I am holding the door open for you
I love that you haave faith in them.....
Ill shit on some of the decisions that theyve made, but i dont think they would intentionally be that stupid. Like the bloodline rumors to bring hitman into the fold
Have the Bloodpact been seen in Nu52?
Marvel tried two and three with Marvel and Ultimate Universes. It didn't work because fans got tired of it, in my opinion, and sales declined. Call me crazy but I loved the Ultimate Universe.
A cinematic universe wouldn't work because it needs a constant reboot but not too hard of a reboot because they have to build up to the story in the movie but not disclose details of the movie itself. That would be really complicated IMHO. Do fans really want two years or more of a buildup to the origin story of the Inhumans?
It wasnt fans getting tired of the ultimate universe being why it failed. It was letting someone gut the world of its characters and sense of balance and then realizing there was nothing they could do short of bringing dead heroes back to make people come back. The mainline crossovers didnt even make a dent
Who the fuck looked at the script for Ultimatum and said "Yeah thats a good idea"?
BronsonLee
Sounds about right.
MHWilliams
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"Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps."
BKatastrophe
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We all would
"Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps."
He's the greatest Green Lantern ever
I remember a lot of people being super into Ultimatum when it was fresh. So I guess it sorta worked at least in the short term.
Plus it killed Ultimate Wolverine so that's something.
Ultimatium was interesting at the time of release for the fact that nobody was safe and the universe would potentially focus on different heroes from the 616, but there was obviously a lot of questionable things happening in the story.
What don't you love cannibalism?
I mostly agree, but honestly I love the Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch romance.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Relaunch Ultimate line. Have characters age, grow and retire. Bring in new characters. Don't commit genocide, or have incent, voyeurism and cannibalism as major components of the world. Rake in profits.
Gross.
"Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps."
The Jessica Cruz book makes up for it.
Still waiting on a new WW creative team.
BronsonLee
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A cinematic universe wouldn't work because it would either quickly diverge from what the films are, or it would have to run in place without anything major happening for years on end, waiting until the films catch up.
Which is a version of what you're saying, but not exactly the same.
But am we wrong?
We would but we would be fined by the EPA for incorrect disposal of hazardous waste.
I am still a little asleep and read your post in David Tennant's Dr.who's voice.
Fuck that issue in it's ear. Not only did the 3d make me sick, but the story was damn near gibberish.
LSauchelli
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IIRC, before Ultimatum, the Ultimate Universe wasn't doing so hot, save for Ultimate Spider-man. Remember, before Ultimatum, there was The Ultimates 3, which was a hot mess and nothing like The Ultimates and The Ultimates 2. In fact, I think that The Ultimates 3 is the reason the big heads at Marvel started getting nervous about the Ultimate universe and thus gave birth to Ultimatum to 'have a big event that ends a low-selling bunch of books'. But yeah, it's all Jeph Loeb's fault, heh.
Corpsepyre
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I'm just happy we have Image and Vertigo among others for good storytelling. DC and Marvel can keep re-booting for the next 10 years for all I care at this point.
shaowebb
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My only concern is whether or not Raymond Terrill will appear or has he appeared in New 52? I know about the Bollywood 4 part "The Ray" and even he admits in that comic he's borrowing the name and hopes he doesn't get in trouble with the real guy.
This guy NEEDS to comeback in a better role.
My vote will always go for him being brought in as lacking direction and trying to figure out what he stands for and for either Luthor or Waller to grab him and use him as a deterrent for Superman due to his ability to take a hit from him and produce red sunlight. Considering he KO-ed Superboy in one shot and all his energy powers he's a major tool for a writer to play with. He's like Green Lantern meets Dr Light, Meets Living Laser, meets Captain Atom. He's still unwritten in his convictions so why not make him into a neat side point for one of those two as someone on the outside who sees the collateral and potential damage Superheroes causing as a threat who stands by either Luthor or Waller as a way to keep the capes in line and out of affairs.
This guy NEEDS to comeback in a better role.
My vote will always go for him being brought in as lacking direction and trying to figure out what he stands for and for either Luthor or Waller to grab him and use him as a deterrent for Superman due to his ability to take a hit from him and produce red sunlight. Considering he KO-ed Superboy in one shot and all his energy powers he's a major tool for a writer to play with. He's like Green Lantern meets Dr Light, Meets Living Laser, meets Captain Atom. He's still unwritten in his convictions so why not make him into a neat side point for one of those two as someone on the outside who sees the collateral and potential damage Superheroes causing as a threat who stands by either Luthor or Waller as a way to keep the capes in line and out of affairs.
This is what I never understood. DC has multiple Earths, infinite once again I think. Why do reboots when you can just shift focus to another Earth that is similar or wildly different and make it clear in an event (doesn't have to be a company wide but a series of one shots explaining that the current characters adventures will continue while focus not shifts to a new set) that is what is happening. That way nothing is rebooted but you can still start fresh and when you have a huge Crisis like event those old characters can show up in some way. The ability to do this is built into the universe as a whole.
Maybe a reboot could work. This is another grain of salt thing. On comicbookresources some were talking about how there had been a rumors in the past that DC comics had created a road map in case they were ever mandated to do a reboot again.They wouldn't be caught unprepared again. That the problem with New 52 was that they were ultimately not prepared, had no break in case of emergency plan to do a reboot when the order came down and essentially were scrambling and that is how the New 52 came about. So if this was true and they had a outline of how they could and would reboot things set aside perhaps there wouldn't be a repeat of the New 52.
I won't lie. It's the first thing I always think of when I see them in any type of media now.
Anyway, if we get a sot reboot or whatever, then I hope they make some changes. Nu52 Jason Todd is ok, but my god they need to fix Tim Drake. I also feel the same about Barbara as Batgirl. I still think she was way more interesting and I guess mature as Oracle, and new hip Batgirl ain't doing it for me. DC pls.
Mac the KNife
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This is what I thought the Ultimate Universe was about when it launched. Continuity buffs could keep their Marvel universe, Ultimate would be a modern, tighter continuity.
Ultimate was never quite the same after Ultimatum, the original continuity cherrypicking Ultimate concepts and general creator brain-drain.
Mr. Poolman
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Where is Cyborg??
Asked nobody
LSauchelli
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If Millar had been the one behind Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum, I'm sure it would've turned much better than it did. The problem is, they gave the keys to Loeb.
Mac the KNife
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Agreed. Pre-Ultimatum Millar was solid.
Lol yeah I don't like the lady writing now she's straight up trash. I love how the aqua man writer got straight up fired for being ass.
It still blows my mind they booted Jeff Parker from Aquaman, it was such a pitch perfect run.
Such a great setup to unite the kingdoms that's the journey I want aqua man on. It was so good to read.
The shift in story to me is about the same as the firstborn arc ending and the new writers coming in for ww
Details?
Lol did you not read the latest issue he's gone. New writer and all he didn't even get to finish his story line. Speculation has lead some reviewers to believe it was due to fan backlash. Obviously D. C. Nor the old writer have commented on it, but when your story is abruptly stopped something is off.
He pretty much was pulling an arrow but for mamoa aquaman buy changing his costume and making him a rogue character. All of this was bound together by a trash ass story that put him and his kingdom at odds for a while.
The only thing good about the Arc is that he's now powered by Poseidon giving him some distinct powers.
GringoSuave89
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The fact that Ann Nocenti lasted as long on Catwoman as she did makes me doubt DC cares about this.
You sir have great taste, how do you feel about Cassie Sandmark?
Steph is back already as her own original character.
And Babs represents girl power via her doc martens and Instagram post.
kidding on the second one kinda.
Lol honestly I dropped that book the second issue into her crimelord venture. Wayyyy to boring.
Also aquaman is a leaguer so I imagine that it's important that his book be moderately successful at least. He had one of the more boring books last year along with flash.
Did she exist after YJ?
(And the fact that you not spelling it Sandsmark annoyed me indicates my feelings are stronger than I thought!)
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