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New Yorks Finest
Banned
I luv these creative videos/gifs popping up
sad folks making a joke out of this..but I see where they're coming from.
Fuz
Banned
I'm not interested in the game, I even never liked Kojima, his stardom, his fascination with Hollywood and I think he has his head too far up his ass. Also the way how he's so reliant on cutscenes.
But I'm grateful that a top tier developer has the balls to try new things, don't conform, go with his vision, take risks. We need people like Hideo. I'm starting to like him.
But I'm grateful that a top tier developer has the balls to try new things, don't conform, go with his vision, take risks. We need people like Hideo. I'm starting to like him.
captainraincoat
Banned
Yeah there is that classic kojima touch but I cant help but feel Konami May of been the one keeping him in check all these years as this game is brilliant and clever mixed in with boring and repetitive shit
People may call this a journey or gruelling story but it’s fucking lazy game design...u play games for entertainment.....not to spend 35 minutes walking and avoiding the same sort of bt encounters
The pc version I’m actually looking forward to due to mods...maybe they can patch all the boring shit out
Psykodad
Banned
Play a bit through chapter 3, thing will change.
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Rien
Jelly Belly
Push it a bit more! Episode 3 opens up quite a bit.
Yeah, unfortunately holding L1 + R2 all the time literally breaks gameplay. You just cant fall, slip, trip etc that way even with a huge load. I have boxes worth of 100kg out of 120 and i can run up and down hills without a care in the world. The speed is exactly the same, no trade off, nothing.
It compromises any traversal mechanics and nuances and voids any challenge
How Kojima tested the game and didnt notice that is beyond me.
This bullshit just kills any desire to play tbh
It compromises any traversal mechanics and nuances and voids any challenge
How Kojima tested the game and didnt notice that is beyond me.
This bullshit just kills any desire to play tbh
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ethomaz
Banned
The game shows exactly the opposite... Kojima has never run out of creativity.
Other guys should fail and destroy this game.
ethomaz
Banned
This is a game... not art... Kojima didn't even try to made it as art.
The gameplay alone is more complex then 90% of games released today.
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Virex
Banned
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Death Stranding. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the gameplay and Kojima will go over a typical gamer's head. There's also Kojima's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from very deep movies and literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these Kojima games, to realise that they're not just amazing- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Death Stranding truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the writing in Kojima's existential catchphrase "you rike it," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Hideo Kojima's wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Hideo Kojima and Death Stranding tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
imsosleepy
Member
i also dont get the pacing issues in the first hours? Constantly new things are added, new parts of the story get unlocked and told. I get to learn more. Things become easier, get more things to do. I just passed the windfarm part and my god nothing has been the same. Kojima nailed the pacing in my opnion.. But dam to bad we live in a world now days where people need everything to happen fast and quick and if not, they cant appreciate it. This game is just different and it should be viewed that way, but certain people who play it and cant handle this type of game just instantly give it a bad review.. Such a shame
But im really suprised that there were so many reviewers who had such a negative feeling from it, cant imagine that from them to be honest after being nearly 6 hours in
SLB1904
Banned
20 hours in and let me tell you i love everything. stoping buy a bridge with soundtrack playing. good lorde
It's curious to me that yout think that is an oversight. The balance mechanic is not there to make walking in a straight line difficult. It's to make the player avoid terrain that makes him stumble and thus think about what path to take. You're very early on and upgrades make it even clearer that balance is a minor component of a far larger picture. Reviews have needlessly overblown the annoyance of walking, probably because they were too stupid to hold both triggers and actually test the gameplay. I am sure that the developer is fully aware how their mechanic functions. If you can only see the gameplay through your expectations of what it should be, you'll miss what it's actually designed to be.
imsosleepy
Member
lmao i saw a lets play yesterday and they never understood u could also hold both the triggers to be perfectly balanced for a while
Kagero
Gold Member
People expected to be challenged by NPS's that are clearly defined. They wanted giant robots to shoot lol. Imagine if this was a game where you had to fight off waves of enemies constantly? That would break the entire mechanic of the game. The world and terrain is the enemy. Kojima had a vision and built everything with purpose and intent. I'm so happy this game came along. I recon we will see a lot of other games in the future influenced by it.
ethomaz
Banned
Easy mode.
But it become slow (it not the same speed) as fuck and use stamina too fast
I like to user L2 + R2 just when really needed... most time I correct the balance without need it making the walk faster.
I believe he tested and designed it like that.
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New Yorks Finest
Banned
I think DS inspired alot by a movie "Oblivion" with ma boi Tom in it.
imsosleepy
Member
Uhm just watched jim sterling review. Did he even play it?? He keeps repeating its just walking but I was able to do alot of quest on bike in chapter 2.. build bridges on ceetain spots, pick up new quest and rush true the area with the sidequests. The bike is fun. Gotta think how u traverse. Neeed materials to build bridges. Place the energy things to get the power. Lots of management to i notice more and more.
Btw the ign review is stupid.. he whines about the cutscenes when u go private room. 3 cutscenes. He complains how he skips them and then there is another and another. But.. they are SUPER SHORT WTF
He makes it look superannoying long
Btw the ign review is stupid.. he whines about the cutscenes when u go private room. 3 cutscenes. He complains how he skips them and then there is another and another. But.. they are SUPER SHORT WTF
He makes it look superannoying long
Arachnid
Member
Damn, don't spend too much time in chapter 2. If you can bring yourself to give it another try, get through chapter 3 first. Straight up sprint through 2's main missions. The less time you spend there, the better. This guy does a pretty good job of explaining it in the first 5 minutes of his video.
kg? Pssh, may as well be in newtons for me. Kojima needs to come out with the "lbs" update for this game to be a true American 10/10.
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Everything is fucking backwards in gaming media. They will shit on anything original, but praise literall checklist design at the same time. They are incompetent, cant play games if they require any modicum of though and attention,etc.
This giant bomb reviewer gave Mafia 3 4/5 and Assasins Creed Syndicate 4/5.
Facepalm if you ask me
HotPocket69
Banned
I feel like Episodes 1 and 2 are equivalent to something like the Hinterlands in DA: Inquisition. Just move on and don’t dwell too much on side stuff. Once you get to Ep 3 your first few quests give you some game changing gear and the ability to revisit old areas.
Bryank75
Banned
Really doesn't matter that much dude, you soon have gear that makes you kinda forget about that.... I've been on my bike a lot of the time and other gear that might be a spoiler.
HotPocket69
Banned
Yeah I don’t really think about balancing myself anymore unless I’m approaching an incline.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
That is hilarious. I didn't even think about that. We're in Merkah! It should be lbs - wtf is this kg bullshit??
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
11 hours or so in now and just got to Episode 3. This game just keeps getting better in my book.
The music (and the timing for when it plays) has just been perfect so far, too.
The funny thing is that Sam's gear does display weight limits in pounds!
The music (and the timing for when it plays) has just been perfect so far, too.
The funny thing is that Sam's gear does display weight limits in pounds!
Bryank75
Banned
By the end of that chapter, you'll have a nice bag of tricks....
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Can’t say enough about the game’s audio. As great as it looks, it sounds even better in some decent headphones
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
My progress is slow going. I made it to Chapter 5 last night, but I could easily be further than that.
My problem?
Every time I notice that MULE camps have respawned, I can't help myself but raid them for that sweet sweet metal and ceramics. I BUILDING HIGHWAYS HERE PEOPLE!
Seriously, I think I built 5 sections of highway yesterday by myself. I need help.
I was extremely wary of this game before release, but it may be my favorite game this year. There's something about it that has clicked extremely well with me.
My problem?
Every time I notice that MULE camps have respawned, I can't help myself but raid them for that sweet sweet metal and ceramics. I BUILDING HIGHWAYS HERE PEOPLE!
Seriously, I think I built 5 sections of highway yesterday by myself. I need help.
I was extremely wary of this game before release, but it may be my favorite game this year. There's something about it that has clicked extremely well with me.
ethomaz
Banned
Played more 4 hours yesterday.
I can't go ahead in episode 3 because it just so fun to the delivery I found in the map... I keep going back between the two cities without go open the third one.
Every time I boot up the game I set a goal... follow ahead the story and open the 3rd city but I failed twice already.
BTW with the online shared highways the game will become way better without the take too much time to do the deliveries that reviewers complained.
I can't go ahead in episode 3 because it just so fun to the delivery I found in the map... I keep going back between the two cities without go open the third one.
Every time I boot up the game I set a goal... follow ahead the story and open the 3rd city but I failed twice already.
BTW with the online shared highways the game will become way better without the take too much time to do the deliveries that reviewers complained.
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Strider Highwind
Banned
So Ive been hoping the game would click, i got 28 hours game time since ive been playing like a mad man since thursday night.
Admitted Kojima ssuper fan and I been defending the game like mad pre-launch
But now that Im almost done with it?
Disappointed is an understatement
Graphics and Sound Design are god level. The soundtracks amazing.
But the gameplay?...any struggles with traversal are kind of conquered by just holding l2 and r2. Once you get the skeleton legs, grenades, and gun all of the difficulty goes out the window(im playing on hard) and while I love the idea of us contributing to each others games I just dont feel like it was executed well here......the game feels like a lot of great ideas that just dont come together well. I keep seeing people with this ol "its a game for deep thinkers" stuff and im like.....man I like Kojima too...but I think some of us are giving him a major pass here.
Im going to force myself to finish it at this point with hopes the last parts of it are different than the rest of the game. But i dont have much hope.
I'd give the graphics and sound design a 10/10.
Gameplay is a 5/10 for me
And the lazy stuff with the deliveries...like all of the holograms just tell me thanks, compliment me for doing it on my own, and inspect the item.....like seriously all of these great voice actors and this is the best they could do.
Admitted Kojima ssuper fan and I been defending the game like mad pre-launch
But now that Im almost done with it?
Disappointed is an understatement
Graphics and Sound Design are god level. The soundtracks amazing.
But the gameplay?...any struggles with traversal are kind of conquered by just holding l2 and r2. Once you get the skeleton legs, grenades, and gun all of the difficulty goes out the window(im playing on hard) and while I love the idea of us contributing to each others games I just dont feel like it was executed well here......the game feels like a lot of great ideas that just dont come together well. I keep seeing people with this ol "its a game for deep thinkers" stuff and im like.....man I like Kojima too...but I think some of us are giving him a major pass here.
Im going to force myself to finish it at this point with hopes the last parts of it are different than the rest of the game. But i dont have much hope.
I'd give the graphics and sound design a 10/10.
Gameplay is a 5/10 for me
And the lazy stuff with the deliveries...like all of the holograms just tell me thanks, compliment me for doing it on my own, and inspect the item.....like seriously all of these great voice actors and this is the best they could do.
imsosleepy
Member
I hope this game wil sel a ton due to mouth to mouth advertising because most reviews suck ass. even the high graded ones cant really describe why the game is great but most people in this thread who like it can? wtf lol
nowhat
Member
I'm still not entirely sure where I stand with this game, but one thing I'm absolutely enjoying is the "co-op" component. As a disclaimer, I really don't do multiplayer (unless couch co-op/-vs) and I didn't think I'd care for the online component at all. Yet what people have done before has really been helpful, and it's great to help others too. I just spent 15 minutes gathering materials to finish a road - it's an area of heavy timefall, so by the time I got the road built my truck had broke down, making the road quite useless for myself. And still I think it was worth it, someone else will get to drive on it.
Kagero
Gold Member
I hope Kojima reads this forum. It must be hard hearing all the garbage coming from many reviewers saying the game is bad or just ok. I know it would have bothered me for sure. Knowing I created something spectacular and seeing a lot of people not enjoying it. It will go down as one of his best games I’m positive. I think he knows it too. He’s clearly really proud of it.
He definitely knew it wouldn't be universally accepted. He talked about that in interviews. Of course it will sting a little when some people are hateful towards it, but there has been lots of praise from people known to engage with artful media on a deeper level. Not to mention the praise his actors and other creators heap on him. So don't worry, the dude predicted the impact of social media on the spread of misinformation when he was conceptualising Metal Gear Solid 2 before 2001, he knows not to take kneejerk reactions too seriously.
HotPocket69
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They'll greet you with the Craftsman when you near the shelter. Do try calling out then.
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Jtibh
Banned
Its a form of art.
Its an experience.
I read people say the world is depressing . Creating that is
Like what? You erect a ladder out of your dick or its soo long they can use it as a rope?
I dont know man ladies might just stomp on it and run away
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Right there with ya bro. I've barely been stopping to sleep since the midnight it released. On episode 7 now, and the game keeps getting better as it goes. The long distance traversal sends me into a pleasant, determined trance to the point the clock no longer matters, and suffice to say the visuals, the audio, and the story scenes are all brilliant. Even rudimentary standard missions can be adventures. Spent an evening building the highway from LK to SK and it's been coming in very handy since, and built ziplines everywhere today (which are awesome). The connected world comes together around me at just the right pace.