Twilight Gap
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You said 80% of posts are about matchmaking - that is completely untrue.
80% of those posts are about Nami dismantling a husk of the pit.
You said 80% of posts are about matchmaking - that is completely untrue.
I *HAVE* read the last pages, but anything said about matchmade groups can easily be said about GAF groups, as it's also said that these groups are formed within 5 minutes.
As a working dad, I often have to leave my game mid-session, so I definitely cannot dedicate 2-3 hours in one sitting to a Raid. But, I can easily go to the GAF thread, join a group there, and pretend to sit through it all. Then, when I have to leave mid-session, the group would still be with -at least- one man down.
All I'm saying is: it would be better if Destiny itself had a good mechanism to both service both me (who can join a Raid for no more than an hour) AND those dedicated to sit it out entirely.
The lack of matchmaking is indefensible. Even if the arguments against it were valid, which I'm not convinced they are, you wouldn't be required to use it. Anyone who prefers playing with their regular group(s) of seasoned friends or team begging, recruiting, and setting up Destiny Dates on GAF/the internet could go on doing so -- but those aren't viable options for a lot of people. You certainly shouldn't be forced to solicit online and/or schedule to experience a mode in a videogame.
This pretty much nails it. Options are better than no options.The lack of matchmaking is indefensible. Even if the arguments against it were valid, which I'm not convinced they are, you wouldn't be required to use it. Anyone who prefers playing with their regular group(s) of seasoned friends or team begging, recruiting, and setting up Destiny Dates on GAF/the internet could go on doing so -- but those aren't viable options for a lot of people. You certainly shouldn't be forced to solicit online and/or schedule to experience a mode in a videogame.
80% of those posts are about Nami dismantling a husk of the pit.
The lack of matchmaking is indefensible. Even if the arguments against it were valid, which I'm not convinced they are, you wouldn't be required to use it. Anyone who prefers playing with their regular group(s) of seasoned friends or team begging, recruiting, and setting up Destiny Dates on GAF/the internet could go on doing so -- but those aren't viable options for a lot of people. You certainly shouldn't be forced to solicit online and/or schedule to experience a mode in a videogame.
How would a Raid work for you then with matchmaking? Imagine you get half-way through the VoG and need to leave. The next night you've got to hope that someone quits and you're next in line to jump into that matched game. Otherwise, you'll be playing the intro over and over and over and over again.
You seem to be the idea person for getting a group through GAF or some other online community.
I found a group on r/fireteams / PSN trophies and managed to spend 2 entire weeks with the team while we figured out how to do the VoG raid flawlessly on normal. When one person had to go, we'd quit for the night as a team. These are people that had similar goals and almost always only had a couple of hours (if that) a night to play. There's absolutely no way possible to get this type of teamwork through match making the way it is.
Exactly. DestinyGAF is one of the most helpful, friendly groups I've ever had the pleasure of talking and playing with. I've not met one person who wasn't at the very least patient when I didn't understand what I needed to do during a raid. Hell, Hawkian even hosts raids every week for people who have never done them before, and they're a blast. Also, he does a literal school for the end boss of the newest raid every Sunday.Say what you will about destiny, but I have had some of the the best gaming experiences in my lifetime here. I have made friends within the community that I will be gaming with for years to come, and overall I have had a great time.
My name is noomi and I like Destiny.
The consensus is that people who raid regularly understand MM won't work, but looking from the outside, MM is logical. Anyone that plays the raids should understand how terrible MM would be for the overall experience.
It's not my fault the game keeps giving me one. I had 40 dropped for me and I only kept 2.80% of those posts are about Nami dismantling a husk of the pit.
Destiny players living in a Destiny cocoon only believe this, because Bungievision has fed you this nonsense.
Matchmaking, lobby browsers, etc works for other games, and would work with Desiny.
All the game needs is a level & gear check, and then match away.
Sure you'll find some griefers, but you'll also find new friends (maybe in your area/region).
Destiny players living in a Destiny cocoon only believe this, because Bungievision has fed you this nonsense.
Matchmaking, lobby browsers, etc works for other games, and would work with Desiny.
All the game needs is a level & gear check, and then match away.
Sure you'll find some griefers, but you'll also find new friends (maybe in your area/region).
GAF people don't drop out, we are a team and work together, we game with each other for the last 7 months, it's totally different from what you're saying.I fail to see how an online matchmaking would not be able to work for Raids, but finding a random group on GAF or other forum would.
They are essentially the same: a random group trying to do a raid.
For me: matchmaking would/should be able to fix the halfway dropouts by filling up the team again with new players. I've started more than one Vanguard mission, only to see it finished within five minutes, or even seconds after I joined. My award was balanced according to time and effort. I don't see why that wouldn't work for raids.
Destiny players living in a Destiny cocoon only believe this, because Bungievision has fed you this nonsense.
Matchmaking, lobby browsers, etc works for other games, and would work with Desiny.
All the game needs is a level & gear check, and then match away.
Sure you'll find some griefers, but you'll also find new friends (maybe in your area/region).
You live outside the cocoon and think that these raids can be done just by a random group of people that don't chat to each other or have proper gear ect.
You guys complain about "amount of time it takes"
You're looking at possibly a full week of wipes before downing crota on a good week on hard.
When people who took 5 mins to post in the thread can get it done in one try.
What's your playtime? I can tell it's probably less than 10 hours and you've probably not ever completed more than NM VOG OG settings.
GAF people don't drop out, we are a team and work together, we game with each other for the last 7 months, it's totally different from what you're saying.
You can do vanguard strikes with your eyes closed, raids you can't.
When people defend the lack of matchmaking, are they saying that the current system is ideal? Why the fuck isn't there an in-game LFG? Why in christ's name do I buy a damn game that requires me to navigate web forums if I want to play the best, most-important end game content? Who in the fuck greenlit a game that provides almost zero ability to organize a 6 man group for end game content within the game itself?
Destiny players living in a Destiny cocoon only believe this, because Bungievision has fed you this nonsense.
Matchmaking, lobby browsers, etc works for other games, and would work with Desiny.
All the game needs is a level & gear check, and then match away.
Why are you arguing for an option that would be complete shit?Why are you arguing against an option that you yourself wouldn't have to use?
the current system is primitive and outdated, but it works. the ideal system would take bungie months to implement when they're already slow to update the game.
When people defend the lack of matchmaking, are they saying that the current system is ideal? Why the fuck isn't there an in-game LFG? Why in christ's name do I buy a damn game that requires me to navigate web forums if I want to play the best, most-important end game content? Who in the fuck greenlit a game that provides almost zero ability to organize a 6 man group for end game content within the game itself?
Why are you arguing against an option that you yourself wouldn't have to use? Hate to break it to ya, but tons of us are already playing and completing raids with randoms. Unfortunately we had to find them on our own because Bungie was too narrow minded to give us the option.
Which raid is too hard to do with randoms? Because I've done them all with randoms. The difficulty and strats required to beat them are insanely simple to anyone that's ever played an MMO.
Honestly, I think it comes from playing the raids and not some force-fed drivel that you think we're blinded to.Destiny players living in a Destiny cocoon only believe this, because Bungievision has fed you this nonsense.
Matchmaking, lobby browsers, etc works for other games, and would work with Desiny.
All the game needs is a level & gear check, and then match away.
Sure you'll find some griefers, but you'll also find new friends (maybe in your area/region).
When I bought the game, I didn't know anyone. Nobody I knew owned a PS4. One friend at work bought a PS4 and has a completely different schedule.
Then I remembered I'm on this site. So I kind of wandered into the Destiny OT, said hi. I noticed Hawkian runs a noobie raid. I signed up. Had a great time. Invited those people to my friends list. They accepted. Now nearly my entire friends list is made up of DGAF people.
Came home from work on a Friday night. Saw people posting things like:
"Need 1 for Nightfall. At the boss. Get in here."
"Doing weekly. Anyone want coins?"
Then I did a 28 weekly with my then 25 Warlock - was trying to get enough coins for something from Xur. I got to Phogoth somehow - and put up a post on GAF "Hey guys, I'm a 25 and am at the boss. If you wouldn't mind helping a noob I would totally appreciate it. Hope you get great loot for helping me!" 2 guys popped on in about 30 seconds.
ALL DAY, EVERY DAY there are people all over the world posting in the DGAF OT.
"Hey need one for NM VoG"
"Need 4 for HM Atheon"
"Hey I have the Gorgon checkpoint on Hard - anyone need it?"
"I'm at the boss on the NF, get in here if you want easy loot!"
I go to Reddit. They have "Mentor Monday." Wow that's nice. Kind of quaint though, considering every day on DGAF someone says "Would you mind taking a noob in the Vault or through CE?" To which nearly everyone replies a version of "Be glad to!"
Hawkian hosts the noob raids every Thursday, alternating between VoG and CE.
He hosts a Crota-Sword school every Sunday night.
With the amazing community here, if you can't make friends or find someone to play with in Destiny, and you're already on GAF, friend, you're DOING IT WRONG.
tl;dr - You don't need matchmaking. You have DGAF.
Destiny.... I played for the loot. I stayed for the community
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This would be an outdated system in 2007. Right now, it's unacceptable and I'm shocked by the amount of people that say 'no big deal' or actually defend it. Imagine EA's next Battlefield required you to navigate web forums in order to create a squad?
It's not "consumer unfriendly", it's just a crap game.
That's why people die all the time, maybe you're just some leet video game hero man, for like 3 weeks there was no burns, and randoms would die constantly unless good communication.You say that as if Nightfall is hard. More often than not Nightfall has a burn enabled which allows you to kill the final boss in a matter of seconds. None of it outside of hardmode raids is remotely difficult. It's all pretty much baby-mode WoW.
You said 80% of posts are about matchmaking - that is completely untrue.
Drive bye posts like that are a danger for your longevity around here Jr, I ain't ratting but lesson learned.It's not "consumer unfriendly", it's just a crap game.
Drive bye posts like that are a danger for your longevity around here Jr, I ain't ratting but lesson learned.
The only thing destiny has done is made me new friends and kept me from playing other games.
The end
I wont use it. I'm only competing for Bungie's development resources. Matchmaking, LFG board or whatever - probably not going to happen in the next 3-6 months if it takes Bungie several months to patch a dozen weapons.
Yes, it's actually probably closer to 90%.
This would be an outdated system in 2007. Right now, it's unacceptable and I'm shocked by the amount of people that say 'no big deal' or actually defend it. Imagine EA's next Battlefield required you to navigate web forums in order to create a squad?
This is a pretty dishonest way to frame the latest update; Destiny has had updates, and major features rolled in them, every month, often more than one per month, since release. There were not sitting around taking six months to update the weapons. The last one was pretty large and did a major rebalance of the sandbox; it was particularly transformative for PvE.
That's why people die all the time, maybe you're just some leet video game hero man, for like 3 weeks there was no burns, and randoms would die constantly unless good communication.
It just sounds like you have no experience with the game from what you talk about
'matter of seconds'??
Over exaggerate much?
Yes, it's actually probably closer to 90%.
Destiny needs some kind of communication board or away to say they are looking for help in game not outside the game. Should be pretty easy.
I personally need help with xyur in the summing pits when fighting photgoth, any takers? My psn is akafullmetal PS4 version.
I'm really amazed that people have so much faith in randomly matched groups created through matchmaking.