I didn't follow the thread as I should have, exotic gauntlets (either from the engram or No Backup Plans) would not be a particularly good buy for Fleet. You CAN get to 31 without an exotic after all, if you need to.Fleet_of_Foot said:
I'm actually leveling up Mask of the Third Man too, it's actually a perfect exotic for the encounter anyway, but in my experience you'll either die getting back to safety (where you can actually sip some tea while swapping and pick up an orb and swapping back) or make it (with anything from full health to a sliver left) and still have plenty of time.
Use a different gun? I understand everyone has their favorites, but ARs are not great PVE guns to begin with. A scout, hand cannon, and soon pulse rifles, are all better choices.
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As a scout rifle lover that is recently opening himself to other types of weapons, I have to disagree: hand cannon range is mostly shit. Hawkmoon range is awesome, but it's supposed to be, since it's one of the weapon's traits.
What I feel they should have done the last time around, at least with Exotics:
This chart makes the case for PvP changes to Auto Rifle, but can I be skeptical about their choice to show "Story" to represent PvE?
People do Story once, and then only again for bounties (usually set to the lowest hard difficulty) or for the Daily. If you were to do another table with end game content like Weeklies, Nightfalls, Raids, maybe even Roc strikes, I bet Auto Rifles would be much much lower. And anyway, a 5% spread between Hand Cannon, Scout Rifle and Auto Rifles is pretty good.
In PVE the range Nerf for HCs won't even matter. You'll never be that far from the mob. I actually turn off range perks in PvE content.
What do you mean by this?
This chart makes the case for PvP changes to Auto Rifle, but can I be skeptical about their choice to show "Story" to represent PvE?
People do Story once, and then only again for bounties (usually set to the lowest hard difficulty) or for the Daily. If you were to do another table with end game content like Weeklies, Nightfalls, Raids, maybe even Roc strikes, I bet Auto Rifles would be much much lower. And anyway, a 5% spread between Hand Cannon, Scout Rifle and Auto Rifles is pretty good.
This is ostensibly a patch to carve out a space for Pulse Rifles, because they're outclassed at every range in every purpose by every other weapon right now. We don't know the severity of the nerfs to auto rifles and hand cannons yet, but I foresee one side effect of this patch is a effectively increasing difficulty of PvE content. Destinhy's End Game is very challenging (often unfairly) and incredibly lethal at close range. Why do you think there's more cheese in Destiny than in any other game? In Raids and Nightfalls and Weeklies it's important to stay alive. Players are forced to hang back. Changes to Auto Rifles, Hand Cannons and trying to make Shotguns relevant push combat closer. Which seems retaliatory to Guardians who want to play it safe in the face of burns and light switches and yellow bar mobs in Raids.
As an aside, I'm also fairly sure that this weapons balance patch means that we're not getting class balance changes anytime soon. Which is a shame because as an example, Golden Gun sucks for PvE.
I'm was raised in this game by scout rifles: I am always "that far" from the mobs.
It's awesome that there are guns for different ranges and situations rather than an all-purpose weapon class.I'm was raised in this game by scout rifles: I am always "that far" from the mobs.
I really saw the range stat kicking in when first switching from my beloved scout rifles to hand cannons: I was standing so far away that I was doing less damage with the HC than with a SR.
Undoubtedly. Agreed. Desperation move? I dunno.
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It's a great choice. I was busy last weekend and forgot to upgrade it with Xur.
That's a really fun start, I love getting to use the sword super.
Oh I agree with that. My point is that it's already working well in PVE, being that the ranges at which you can initiate a fight are much greater than in PVP.
Never mind, I misremembered. What he said was
ARs shouldn't be good at range even in PvE. I wouldn't get upset at Bungie if I was using a Universal Remote in PvE and doing terribly; even if it is an exotic. Guns should have their place and times to be the best option. There shouldn't be a weapon class that is jack of all trades in my opinion. I am looking forward to trying pulse rifles when they are viable.
