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Destiny |OT19| Raiders of the Lost

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What's the issue with options guys, don't want matchmaking, don't use it maybe?

I never bother raiding because of the effort to get a group together, but the raids aren't rocket science so matchmaking would be great. Even use an option for experienced players to guide nubs through.

But yeh, they're all idiots who've never played it or only played for a week. While I've got near 200 hours game time, guess my opinion counts then ;)

Raids are difficult for players who have never done them. People are assuming that matchmaking would be great because it would remove the need for LFG and having to find others...but that time spent is going to be wasted wiping with randoms through matchmaking.

Randoms don't use mics, go AFK, grief, have no experience, quit, and just aren't fun to play with in basically every console multiplayer game so I'm not sure why people would expect this to work.

It seems to me that people expect all players will have a mic and be an asset to the group if matchmaking was implemented. That's not reality though.
 

LTWood12

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Nah, shard it, it's awful.
It's basically a legendary Nechrochasm....

tinybits of impact :(

I think that's what I received on the last NF run I did this week (after energy for the first...), but didn't check the perks. With how low the impact is and after the last big patch, don't see a point. Not sure how they perform now in IB, but probably still better to go with SUROS or Abyss Defiant as far as ARs are concerned.

I'm an idiot. It's Up For Anything, not Payback SOS. Yea, SOS is absolute shit. So is UFA with counterbalance, field scout, and third eye worth leveling?
 

Namikaze1

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Zoba Twilight Gap said it best:

Players who invest an average of 10 minutes of their time to create a group are more invested in the quality of their teammates and more committed to the challenge of the content, especially if there are difficulties along the way. A matchmade group does not possess that screening process because it is designed to be as convenient and effortless as possible. This is the antithesis of the difficult end-game content such as Nightfalls and Raids, which are not effortless and rarely convenient, especially with the ever-growing list of glitches (of which Bungie ought to be fixing instead).

Destiny currently has no social search parameters and no anti-grief measures. Matchmaking without these things offers no way to filter your teammates and no way to deal with them once you have them. This means there is no accountability for matchmaking, no accountability for playing poorly, and no accountability for leaving. I don't care what you experience during your Raid, but I don't doubt for a second that matchmade groups on average will be less successful than pre-made groups with the current game's systems.

Sure, we can add all of those things and then add matchmaking, but the end-game content is not something you queue up for on a whim unless everybody knows exactly what they're doing. You will be dying often, especially if you've never done it, and matchmade groups are not obligated to hold your hand. In what world are Destiny randoms going to get on mic and teach the other team how to down Crota? I've been in Raids where teammates only had rare weapons. What matchmaking group is going to wait for them to go back to their vault and pick up better ones? Just as easy as it was to queue into a lobby, they'll hop right back out if the group is unfavorable - for any reason. There goes your Raid.

I'm not saying matchmaking is impossible, and I'm certainly not saying the current systems are ideal. However, I think it'd be a waste of developer resources at this point to design all of these systems for a part of the game that is not designed to be accessible. It's not a quick or effortless activity and it's not intended to be easy for the majority of the playerbase. That part of makes it worth its salt as end-game content. If supporting that barrier for entry makes me an elitist, then I'm fine with it. I'd rather see a LFG board of sorts in a portion of the tower, but by the time that is implemented, the comet expansion will probably be out. At the rate Bungie patches the game, you'll be waiting a long time for matchmaking - longer than hopping on the internet and finding a group.


Also, WHERE'S AHSOKA, TWILIGHT?! I don't know you anymore!
 

Jito

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Raids are difficult for players who have never done them. People are assuming that matchmaking would be great because it would remove the need for LFG and having to find others...but that time spent is going to be wasted wiping with randoms through matchmaking.

Randoms don't use mics, go AFK, grief, have no experience, quit, and just aren't fun to play with in basically every console multiplayer game so I'm not sure why people would expect this to work.

It seems to me that people expect all players will have a mic and be an asset to the group if matchmaking was implemented. That's not reality though.

And sometimes randoms do use mics etc etc. I've got more completed strikes than failed ones due to afk or griefers for starters. On the new weekly strike, people power through and get that shit done quick. And again, I'd just like the option, don't use it if you don't want to and it has no effect on you.
 
Any NF starting up soon? I'm about to hop on GTA Online to grind some money while I wait.

Edit: Also I didn't expect much from the Gaming side Destiny thread and apparently I shouldn't expect much from Nami or noomi you traitorous raggamuffins. I saw the posts!
 

noomi

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Thanks dude, much appreciated. I'll be home after work if I see you on I'll msg ya!

dude check other destiny thread :p

HA you saw!

I did :D

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I also saw silver.tongue posting there, haven't seen him post for a little while...
 

Silav101

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Thanks for the 3 HM Atheon, guys. I totally got my collection of TimeBreaker bikes complete, this time! [Great runs, in spite of my scrubbiness]

I swear, Bungie's bullshit teases about not having found everything in VoG is really Atheon's warehouse of all the goddamn TimeBreakers in the multiverse.
 

Skele7on

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It's been a home wrecker for some…

Don't I know it, my GF direct quote

"Oh it's tuesday is it, time for that fucking game all night again is it?"
"Good for you you got a virtual gun, that one day will mean nothing"
"If you love that game so fuckin' much, why don't you marry it" - I would if I could babe.
 
2nd Thunderlord this week, and I was using the weapon on Omnigol. .

Router if you are going to do weekly let me know I want to join you with my Titan since he doesn't have it unlocked
 

Namikaze1

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Don't I know it, my GF direct quote

"Oh it's tuesday is it, time for that fucking game all night again is it?"
"Good for you you got a virtual gun, that one day will mean nothing"
"If you love that game so fuckin' much, why don't you marry it" - I would if I could babe.
Thank god mine understands.

Me: hey babe, I got an exotic!
GF: nice! I got a legendary engram and an exotic all from one nightfall!
Me: well good for you!!!

Me: hey babe, I finally got a decent shader.
GF: I finally got Revenant.
Me: well good for you!!!

Me: I got a Gjallarhorn
GF: I got 3
Me: *exits out of chat*
 

Skele7on

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Thank god mine understands.

Me: hey babe, I got an exotic!
GF: nice! I got a legendary engram and an exotic all from one nightfall!
Me: well good for you!!!

Me: hey babe, I finally got a decent shader.
GF: I finally got Revenant.
Me: well good for you!!!

Me: I got a Gjallarhorn
GF: I got 3
Me: *exits out of chat*

Mine can be cool at times and does show an interest, I just played far too much so I can understand that actually she wants to watch TV and have a chat with me. and not hear me shouting ROCKETS NOW PEOPLE.

TOP OF THE PAGE EDIT.

Destiny is a BAFTA award winning shared world shooter.

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Namikaze1

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Mine can be cool at times and does show an interest, I just played far too much so I can understand that actually she wants to watch TV and have a chat with me. and not hear me shouting ROCKETS NOW PEOPLE.

TOP OF THE PAGE EDIT.

Destiny is a BAFTA award winning shared world shooter.

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I told mine that if I see her in Bloodborne, I'm gonna kill her ass. It's kill or be kill in Bloodborne! Taking no prisoners!
 
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