I am till Snipers are nerfed.
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Destiny |OT32| Driviks and Draksis (Spoiler Tag ALL Raid Discussion)
- Thread starter DrDrizzay101
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I am till Snipers are nerfed.
It does, actually. Forgemaster reduces the drain of throwing a hammer by something like half.
Edit - It may instead actually double the "units" of meter, I haven't timed idle durations with & without Forgemaster.
Twilight Gap
Member
raid is still brand new so it'll be a while before the best strats are discovered. but yea, some of those groups you invited me to were behind the curve.
i heard that you did the
like gatekeepers because the fight got harder afterwards, but I never saw it.
i heard that you did the
daughters
Eh Ive evaded them in the air just to die when I land but it works for a bit. Close to medium range is the effective range on the hammers, since they can't really evade shotguns it would be terrible to remove the sheild, bringing it down to radiance levels wouldn't be bad. For them to remove the sheild they would have to Nerf shotguns a lot.
captscience
Member
DrDrizzay101
Member
I would loooove to not do this. The problem is Bungie can't not do this. The game doesn't allow it. Even things like the shotgun PvE buff/nerf are based around the "damage to minions of Darkness" stat that weapons have. It's been a huge problem since Day 1 but the game doesn't allow for separate PvE/PvP balancing, least of all for subclasses.
Instead of nerfing new subclasses because they're better than old subclasses, they should buff old subclasses so that they're on par with the new ones.
For example, Gunslinger needs Quickdraw (why it doesn't have that talent already I do not know). Golden Gun could use some damage resistance. Let's face it, Golden Tears is a very real thing.
For example, Gunslinger needs Quickdraw (why it doesn't have that talent already I do not know). Golden Gun could use some damage resistance. Let's face it, Golden Tears is a very real thing.
Subtervotion
Member
My point is that since the rest of the Titans kit is meh, they will get their supers less often. As a Warlock with good nade and melee and good perks to go along with them, I'll have my super up faster (on average) than a Titan.
People get supers 3 times a match if they are playing above average. 4 times if you're playing exceptional. It's not really a problem, imo. And I'm playing primarily as Warlock. So there's no bias here.
Absolutely. Never played with the guy, but he has always been helpful.
Indeed. I didn't get picked to be the runner for
the daughters
GustyGardens
Banned
I finally made it to 290. I'm really liking the Suros 45, it was a bit lower than my previous auto rifle, so I infused it. It's sitting nicely at 295.
Xbox controller? D: I dont even use xbox
You should modify one and mail me it, yes?
If you pay for the controller, the sticks and sending it I can do that
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=867944
Just do it
Darryl M R
Member
Anyone available to help me with the shield brother exotic shotgun strike?
Twilight Gap
Member
In that case, Gunslinger, Defender and Nightstalker all need slight buffs IMO.
-Gunslinger's kit isn't that bad. Maybe the stability perk could be replaced with quickdraw. Golden Gun could use a damage increase across the board but I don't think it should have damage resistance while the super is active. It could use it during activation. It always sucks that you lose the super if you're killed while popping it, while other supers are saved.
-For Nightstalker, i'd just buff the initial impact damage on all of its abilities and reduce the damage over time.
-Defender doesn't really have a PvP centered kit so I'm not sure what to do there other than buff its grenades.
touch of malice
carterd1981
Member
Sent PM. PSN kortez1981. I was in the Community during the preview. I guess it reset when it released to everyone.
Golden gun needs an accuracy, range and damage buff for pve and PvP, why bungie hasn't done this yet I don't know. Oh and they need to make it not count as a handcannon so their needs don't affect it.
MrS
Banned
Would trade PVP for double PVE content in a heartbeat
Subtervotion
Member
Agreed. I think striker and void walker need tweaks too but that a whole other rant.
Sunsinger and Bladedancer have always been top tier imo.
Edit for your edit:
Defender should consolidate armor and blessing of light. And put in a PVP focused perk there. Also, good grenades are a must.
oh, i know, but it does make it easy. You
stagger oryx
more time to run to orbs and run back. Daughters are pretty easy if people can platform. Golg is the hardest fight I'd say, gaze and exploding thralls add complications.
Dhruv_hanom
Member
Yes, it seems like it's not registering inputs
constantstatic
Member
Gunslinger really needs a damage buff I shot a hammer douche Titan with the golden gun and he just laughed at me and instakilled me with a hammer. The hammer Titan is so OP.
DrDrizzay101
Member
Of course it's fine for PvE, it's great for PvE, that's what I'm saying. The problem is "nerfed separately for PvP" doesn't exist. It loses out in both range and travel time as a projectile vs hitscan weapon.
The damage resistance will be toned down. You have to be able to OHK headshot snipe with a high impact sniper, like Zoba said. If you can make that shot you deserve to beat someone with their super.
Twilight Gap
Member
Sunsinger is fine now that the Ram is gone and Bladedancer has been given a spanking so they're both balanced IMO.
I definitely think the Void nades need to be buffed.
No, I don't want that at all because supers dominating isn't fun. I'd rather have the focus more on guns than OP supers. That's what Mayhem is for if they want to go crazy with the supers.
I like crucible but yea MM is horrible. It's only really enjoyable with a group.
Halo 5 will save us tho.
If you pay for the controller, the sticks and sending it I can do that
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=867944
Just do it
RIP Prime
Twilight Gap
Member
Not even fun with a group anymore because the map rotation is ass.
I'll do a PvP train today if everyone agrees that we go to orbit on Sector 618.
The way I see it, Supers are trump cards that turn the tide of battle. They should be stupid easy kills that you earn throughout the match, but they should also be easy to counter so they don't dominate them.
Souldestroyer Reborn
Banned
Just got an exotic Monte Carlo from a green engram. Result.
Sector 618 is the worst map ever
I've been rotating between classic playlist and the new ones to get a larger variety of maps. I prefer the older ones anyway
Give Defender Titans a talent that allows them to shoot through the bubble but at the cost of 50% reduced damage. Opposing players may also shoot the Titan inside but also reduced by 50%.
You know radiance warlocks can do that too right?
Twilight Gap
Member
That's an interesting idea.
I'm actually fine with Radiance tanking Godlen Gun shots. I've always thought it was stupid how they could self res and I coulds till Golden Gun them.
Noisepurge
Member
i hate it with a passion
Yeah it's a guaranteed y1 exotic (that you don't have - unless you have them all). Not your typical "green engram."
Shotgun? breh lol
The splash damage is 1hk along with the melee. If that Titan has a working radar, it isn't getting killed by a shotgun while hammered up.
shotgun nerfs are completely independent of that too
as is, they're better armored bladedancers with a ranged homing 1hk area of effect that you can spam. even bladedancers couldn't swing indefinitely. in skirmish you can wipe a team twice with one super. that's just broken as fuck lol
Golgoroth is reaaally easy if you take the slow and safe one sack / one gaze guy approach.
I was dreading this fight the most, and when my team talked to me about this method I was pretty skeptic, but it does really work like a charm.
I find the daughters, and especially Oryx, to be the most difficult encounter for a ~295 group without ToM. It's not that the mechanics are difficult, just that it asks for perfect execution from the all team, AND that everyone gets their ammo drop / synth cooldown when they need them.
I was dreading this fight the most, and when my team talked to me about this method I was pretty skeptic, but it does really work like a charm.
I find the daughters, and especially Oryx, to be the most difficult encounter for a ~295 group without ToM. It's not that the mechanics are difficult, just that it asks for perfect execution from the all team, AND that everyone gets their ammo drop / synth cooldown when they need them.
Twilight Gap
Member
I dlslike 90% of them including First Light. Played it yesterday and, while it was a refreshing change of pace, it was still too big and too sniper friendly.
Bastion on the other hand is still my bastard love child.
Most of the new PvP maps are awful. I've come to appreciate the vanilla maps... Even First Light.
Twilight Gap
Member
I'd agree but it plays fine in 6 player gametypes.
Which one is Bastion again?
Yup.
There's this one on Venus in vanilla that was pretty basic and fun.
I don't play PvP as much as others do in Destiny, but I dislike the new maps because they're too claustrophobic. They also have too many winding corridors.
Twilight Gap
Member
the vehicle map on mars
Souldestroyer Reborn
Banned
Damn thought that was a lucky roll! Anyway nice start to the new expansion I guess
Need to catch up with GAF again!