Destiny - What do you think the next 6 months will look like?

HoW coming in May. Comet in September.

Even though HoW has been pushed back a few months longer than originally expected, I don't expect much to change with it. The story missions and strikes are already on the disc, as are the weapons and armor. TDB was poorly received but I think it's too late for them to really change as much about it as they want to. I do think HoW will be a little more meaty than TDB, but not by much. Being able to go to the Reef for the new raid and social area is definitely a welcome addition instead of just the tiny areas they blocked off in the patrols for DLC missions.

As for Comet, I'd like to believe that's when they'll be able to make some content changes. I'm not sure what to expect from it but I'm very interested to see what Bungie is going to do.

Overall I think every month this game has been out is a learning experience for Bungie to figure out what they've done wrong. They have a lot to prove going forward to not only get the player base want to come back, but to try and convince everyone who passed on Destiny that the series has evolved and is better. Destiny 2 in 2016 has a lot of potential to be the game that gets people back in board if they take all the criticism and build on it. Also being current gen only will help tremendously.
 
Stopped playing right around the time of the new expansion when I realized I was getting locked out of high level content by not shelling out money for the overpriced and ripoff of an expansion.

There are going to have to be some serious changes for me to get back on board with this game. At it's core it's a great shooter and I love the social aspect, but their handling of loot and the economy have been terribly in my opinion. We'll see what "Comet" or whatever brings but I think I'll be too busy with other games this year for more Destiny.
 
Learned my lesson on Destiny. I won't even consider picking up any future Destiny releases at launch.

I need to know there will still be interesting things for players to do after the first 5 days and the $20 expansions will be worth more than $1.50, and I sure as hell can't trust Bungie to tell me the truth after the web of lies they told regarding this game.

I can remember Bungie stating during E3 2013 that players could traverse to the mountains in the background in the Cosmodrome.

What a pack of lies and bullcrap.

Just such a complete and utter failure story wise, content wise, and lore wise.

Sounded like such an amazing universe, how could you fuck up so bad.
 
People still play Destiny? What do you do?

My friends still play everyday, do the bounties etc... Despite having everything in the game. I just don't get it, the game lacked content to begin with. I don't see how it could still be fun. My friends claim part of the reason is the social aspect, well isn't that what party chat is for? I don't need to run VoG for the 200th time to say hi.

I stopped playing in December after the disappoint that was Crota End. I deleted my characters and everything. It wasn't until mid January my friends convinced me to return. I played for about a week, got my hunter to 31 ½, and then got bored again. I deleted the game but kept the character this time. I don't have high hopes for HoW. I'll play it because I paid for it, but if it's anything like The Dark Below I'm out after trying the new raid.
 
I personally stopped playing a few weeks ago. I got 3 32s, each with the loadout(s) I want. No reason to play this game anymore until new content comes out.
 
As a day one (beta, actually) player that still plays frequently, I'd like to address the question of "what are people still doing in the game?"

The short answer is that I'm raiding with the same group of guys every week, and we have a ball.

All of us have 2 or 3 high level characters (30/31/32), and at least a couple people makes some progress every week. A piece of raid armor they didn't have, an exotic they didn't have or don't mind having 2 of, the shards they needed to hit 32.

I wish the progression were smoother and that there were more things to get, because it can be a bit soul crushing to get an exotic, but it's the same one you've gotten 4 times and not the ONE you need to complete the collection.

I also wish there was more to do. We run the same thing every week (1 full run of NM Crota's End, then kill the boss 2 extra times for our alts, then go kill Atheon 3x). It'd be great if we actually had to say "ok, what raid(s) do we want to do this week?".

These criticisms aside, I genuinely think I'd keep playing with these guys even if I had 100% of the loot I wanted, and stood to gain literally nothing from playing it. We run the same stuff every week, and groan, "whoa!", and laugh our way through 3 hours of it every week.

I see some familiar faces in here from DGAF who burned out and are on hiatus, and that makes me a little sad. I just think that if you only played through the same until you got all the loot there is (or that you wanted), you're missing the social part of it that makes it shine despite its flaws. Edit: Or maybe not "missing" it, but not valuing it the same way I do. I haven't had a game in years where the shared experience is as fun as the raid group every week.

I only have around 6 hours a week to play games, and Destiny has consumed 100% of that since release. I've had some low periods where I wondered why I was subjecting myself to it, but having fun playing with the raid guys is what keeps me coming back.
 
Still play the game regulary with the DGAF board. I have all 3 characters at 32 and was actually happy HOW got delayed. It gave me a chance to get my guys to full levels and level up all my exotics and crotas raid weapons.

I can see why people hate the game though and I have no problem with that. It's just for me a game that holds my attention for 400 plus hours(and millions of others) is pretty daunting. I am a huge co-op guy and love the Bungie gunplay so destiny will continue to hold my interest for a very long time.
 
Also yeah they should stop packing in PVP maps into the damn expansions. I literally don't care about PVP, I'm sure alot of people don't care for it. And having 2-3 maps every goddamn expansion is such a waste.

I agree with this. If anything make the maps free and all available because there is a big lack of maps to begin with in the base game. Play the same 3 or so maps over and over is boring.
 
Me and most of my clan mates stopped playing it 2 months ago. Sure I drop in now and again to do nightfall...thats about it.

The game need new content bad. HoW will be the last DLC for me, unless its is super awesome, but doubt it.
 
im looking forward to HOW and any new content the game will throw at me. I love destiny. with that said I havnt really played the game in a good while. I logged back in last week to do the weekly/NF becuase it was an easy strike and it only took me about an hour and a half to each x3. I wont be loggin in his week. I have literaly everything in the game I could want with the exception of a few exotics. There is nothing left do. once HOW is anoucned I will begin the grind again a few weeks proir to get the Marks and rep I need for the new items.

My time away from Destiny has given me a chance to enjoy some other games I buoght last year but did not play. GTA5 Ps4, dragon age ( might skip this one, do not want another grindy game) and smash 4.

there isnt any games I want until MGS5 anyway so HOW should keep me busy through summer.

right now there is nothing worth the headache or anything to stave off boredom. no burn strike this week, no reason to run the raid ( all characters 32 and have every raid weopon in triplicate) nothing new to do like ye olde queens wrath missions. no reason to login.

I really want to play, but Bungie keeps finding ways to say "please dont play our game"
 
Also yeah they should stop packing in PVP maps into the damn expansions. I literally don't care about PVP, I'm sure alot of people don't care for it. And having 2-3 maps every goddamn expansion is such a waste.

Yes, they should cut out an entire aspect of the expansions that many people enjoy simply because you specifically don't care about it.

I spent most of my time playing PvP when playing Destiny. Yeah it's a little unbalanced, but I still enjoyed it. If anything, if Bungie greatly expands on PvP in the future DLCs (more game modes, more maps, better balancing, maybe a "No super, no exotic" playlist?) that would tempt me to come back to Destiny.

I agree with this. If anything make the maps free and all available because there is a big lack of maps to begin with in the base game. Play the same 3 or so maps over and over is boring.

This is also a good alternative.

Yeap...

These two last weeks seems to be the biggest drop in Destiny population (PS4 here)... before that until mid March it was crazy active yet.

HoW needed to be released in March to give more fresh things to the game. And a new update in July.

Expansions can't take so long for these type of games.

Curious as to how you guys are measuring this. Not doubting you at all, but just curious.

Can't believe people still make this comment.
And then complaining about Destiny being to repetitive.

You seem defensive. It's a valid criticism and is relevant to the topic, even if he's making it in sort of a snide way.
 
Great game with a lot of flaws but with a fantastic community (DGAF). I did all weeklies and raids (3x each, 1 per char) up until Bloodborne came out. Even a week or 2 leading to Bloodborne I finally started hitting the wall. So that game came out in perfect time. The last few weeks all I've done now are 3x Nightfalls. I do get the occasional itch to raid but as people have mentioned, the thread is fairly dead as of late.

This game at the current state is all about who you play with. I do need something new soon because even trying to get nightfalls done atm is tedious especially if it isn't on tuesday/reset day then it's most likely with lfg/randoms.

I've made some great friends over at DGAF and I look forward to playing with them in whatever new Destiny provides along with any other MP type games. It's good to see familiar faces over in the BBGAF thread
 
I stopped playing around january, from playing almost everyday. Main reason is my friends didn't buy the season pass and it was getting increasingly hard to find a raid group either on GAF or the LFG site, I got behind on the grinding compared to everyone else and then just gave up since I felt like the grinding required to progress on TDB just wasn't worth it.

That said, I still can't believe how far behind Bungie still is regarding QoL updates and patches, I guess mainly because of limitations of last gen, but that's just speculation on my part.

I probably won't bother buying the "Comet" and further expansions, but will hop in once HoW launches, maybe the game will scratch that itch again.

I hope Bungie and Activision learned from their mistakes regarding Destiny 1 and really improve on Destiny 2 since I don't believe the future Destiny 1 expansions will address the many player criticisms and demands.
 
I love destiny and I very much love the dgaf community, but I must admit that the wait for even some glimmer (lol, get it?) of info about house of wolves is becoming painful.

There is not much left for me to do in-game besides crucible and helping friends at this point.

I keep coming back for the community though, love my guys <3
 
I might try Destiny again once most of the story has been restored, until then I'll give as much of a damn about that game as they did with its story.
 
One thing they need to have in HoW is compelling and viable exotic weapons. I don't think anyone hopes for TDB exotic weapons for anything more than completing their collection. Each expansion needs to have one that people want so bad that a new hashtag is created for people who can't seem to get it to drop.
 
Hows the community of the game now? Is it still very populated? I gave up around October last year. I tried to get back in but the insanity of re-upgrading my exotics with exotic shards made sure I stayed out.

I gave October last year after detesting the game, everything it stood for, and ending up being bored as shit.

Last game I go digital day-one for, ever.

It's perhaps callous to say, but I'd be really happy if the player base dropped to nothing just to send the message to Bungie that they can't underdeliver for their players.
 
Yes, they should cut out an entire aspect of the expansions that many people enjoy simply because you specifically don't care about it.

I spent most of my time playing PvP when playing Destiny. Yeah it's a little unbalanced, but I still enjoyed it. If anything, if Bungie greatly expands on PvP in the future DLCs (more game modes, more maps, better balancing, maybe a "No super, no exotic" playlist?) that would tempt me to come back to Destiny.



Curious as to how you guys are measuring this. Not doubting you at all, but just curious.



You seem defensive. It's a valid criticism and is relevant to the topic, even if he's making it in sort of a snide way.

Having posted in the Destiny OT's since launch, he's definitely right. We used to run through OTs in almost a week and a half up until March and then it's slowed down a huge amount. I used to have 30+ people on my friends list playing Destiny at any given time, even at the crack of dawn, but now? There's probably no more than 5 or 6 playing at night. There's just not enough content to keep people going. We stretched it out for 6 months but eventually I think people just hit a wall.
 
Destiny was scratching a MMO itch for me, but now that Neverwinter is out for the XB1 I have shelved it.

I hope they redeem themselves with a better expansion value this time
 
Curious as to how you guys are measuring this. Not doubting you at all, but just curious.
Friend list activity.

I have over 200 guys only added due Destiny... every reset week until now I had avg. 40-60 guys online playing Destiny.

Last two weeks didn't reached 20... I play Destiny since day one and I never saw so low activity.
 
Curious as to how you guys are measuring this. Not doubting you at all, but just curious.

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At least on GAF I would measure it by how fast the OT moves. When the same page is up for more than an hour I kwould sonsider that a huge drop off from say back in Feb a page might last 20 minutes. I guess it doesnt help that alot of the more active posters headed over to BB OT. I see those threads moving along nicely.

the community has mostly broke up for the time being. but when HOW drops, it will be like a HS reunion. And I cant wait becuase I really love the Destiny community on GAF.
 
Curious as to how you guys are measuring this. Not doubting you at all, but just curious.

100% anecdotal, with a significant does of "echo chamber". Many of us in DGAF frequent the OT, and have the lion's share of our Friends List made up of DGAFfers. Within this relatively homogenous group, it's really easy to detect changes in the 2 main litmus tests:

1) posting rate in the OT - in the peak times, it was almost impossible to keep up with. Now it's entirely possible you can double-post even if you wait 5 minutes. The first few times this happened, people actually said things like "wow, double post. That makes me sad... this wouldn't have happened 3 weeks ago."

2) how many friends are playing when you play, especially on reset night (Tuesday) - I mentioned in my post under the OP that last night was the first night in at least 3 weeks where the in-game friends list went onto a second page of people actually playing Destiny. At it's peak, that was 4+ pages on Tuesday, and almost always at least one full page at other times.

Bungie has dripped a few squishy stats at choice times, like when the Hard Mode of Crota's End released. Things like how many times Crota was killed, how many people bought Ice Breaker when Xur had it, etc. That said, there's no hard data.
 
PS4 player here, started in beta, took about a month off shortly after launch, then went back with a vengeance.

I'm still playing, although it's dropped off lately, because I have kind of finished everything that I wanted to do. I got the platinum, got all my characters to max level (for now,) and there's not a lot left. I still play solo occasionally - I'm doing bounties to level up the guns that I don't have leveled yet, and I'm storing Public Event packages for when House of Wolves comes out so I can get a jump on the game.

I play multiplayer much more frequently, because the community is fantastic. I have a standing group that I usually run Nightfalls and Heroics with every Tuesday night. I constantly keep an eye on the Destiny OT for people who need help in raids and other missions. Destiny is, to me, a social game.

Is it getting a little stale? Yeah. But one could argue Basketball is kind of played out, too, and yet people still play it. Sometimes it's not about the game itself, but the people you play it with, and DGAF is one of the best game-specific communities I've ever had the pleasure to be a part of.

EDIT: Noomi said it much more concisely.
 
I've barely played the game for the past few months. I managed to get through a couple of Clash matches earlier on in PVP but I quickly got bored, the game has lost me I think. I already own HoW since I bought the season pass, but I'm not sure whether I'll actually play it since it's rumoured release date is the same day The Witcher 3 comes out and a couple of weeks before Arkham Knight comes out, so I probably won't have time to go back to it even if I wanted to.
 
Yeah that's what I was saying. I put in hundreds of hours into the game, but even if new content was released tomorrow, I'm not sure I'd go back. I'm kinda over it. The lack of new content for so long lets people just walk away and forget the game. The lack of new content is just silly and a bit insulting, really.
especially with the half-assed MMO thing they were going for. I'll be there for Destiny 2 week of, but I've had my fill with D1
 
It's one month I play just for nightfall and weekly

I have 3 32 , 3 gjallahorn /hunger/ib/black hammer and overall all 9 raid weapon on my 3 characters.

I'm bored now. How needed to releaSe now
 
I stopped playing in December. I'd been so out of the loop, I actually had no idea HoW was coming out Friday, and had never heard of "Comet". Maybe I'll fire it up a bit Friday and take HoW for a spin.
 
I see some familiar faces in here from DGAF who burned out and are on hiatus, and that makes me a little sad. I just think that if you only played through the same until you got all the loot there is (or that you wanted), you're missing the social part of it that makes it shine despite its flaws. Edit: Or maybe not "missing" it, but not valuing it the same way I do. I haven't had a game in years where the shared experience is as fun as the raid group every week.

Honestly, the people I was playing with were the only reason I didn't go on hiatus sooner. As much as I love playing with these guys and hope to play with them again when I inevitably come back, my game time is limited and my backlog has become huge. It doesn't help that my schedule doesn't line up very consistently with most DGAFfers that I play with (for example, I barely if at all play on the weekends) so the reality is that I'm solo most of the the time I can jump on. I really wish this game had hit when I was in college or high school and single.
 
As a day one (beta, actually) player that still plays frequently, I'd like to address the question of "what are people still doing in the game?"

The short answer is that I'm raiding with the same group of guys every week, and we have a ball.

Yeah 'games as 3D chat client' is a thing but this only works for Destiny if you have enough friends to max out a raid playlist. As someone who has 2-3 mates to play with we've grown very tired of the non-raid content, this is where the most attention needs to be paid IMO. The raids are great but due to the higher co-ordination required (at least in VoG I've heard CE is far less complex) I'm not sure they're ever going to work with random match making. The recent introduction of MM for weeklies helped a lot in my earning strange coins for Xur but I had several very frustrating runs with randos that would have had me snap my DS4 in two if I were attempting VoG.
 
Yes, they should cut out an entire aspect of the expansions that many people enjoy simply because you specifically don't care about it.

I spent most of my time playing PvP when playing Destiny. Yeah it's a little unbalanced, but I still enjoyed it. If anything, if Bungie greatly expands on PvP in the future DLCs (more game modes, more maps, better balancing, maybe a "No super, no exotic" playlist?) that would tempt me to come back to Destiny.

Yeah I get that people don't like the PvP part of it but it's still something I do every other day or so to take a break from Bloodborne. It does need more variety. I've started to play clash because I've played a thousand games of control and needed to switch it up.

I wish they would bring in more game modes for PvP. I'd be fine with something fun like primary weapons only or something that would switch up the play styles of people.

At this point they need the PvP to carry the community. I think most of DGAF has 3 32 characters at this point and a majority of the exotic weapons/armor.
 
I hope this huge delay in content leads to a steady flow going into Fall. I was fine with the content at release, but the post launch output has me scratching my head. I was expecting new bounties, different events besides the Iron Banner, and some new crucible modes(Where is CTF?) at least. Hopefully the next six months are a drastic shift compared to the last few months.
 
I just can't trust Bungie as a caretaker of an online MMO-ish game.

Only recently they started fixing the bugs that negatively impacted the players - that's just not acceptable.

And then there's their practice of lying to customers as a marketing tool. I still remember when they said Crota had multiple forms lol.
 
If you have a group each week to run the weekly activities after reset, you'll find yourself enjoying the game a lot more. If you don't, there's not a lot of reasons to stick around. I certainly wouldn't still be playing if I had to use lfg for every raid, nightfall, etc... each week. Very easy to let the game go if none of your friends are playing anymore.
 
House of wolves got pushed back and the comet content will see a November boxed copy release with the base game and all the content up to that on it, for the holiday season.
 
A few things, a way to organize my vault space by weapon rarity, more subclasses, a more fleshed out story, deeper character armor customization besides what has the most light.
 
Exactly the same as the past six months. A barren wasteland devoid of content. I played the shit out of Destiny when it came out and got my Hunter to level 30, but I seriously have no idea what people keep playing now.

I must of done each strike about 50 times, people do more then that?... Why?
 
I love destiny and I very much love the dgaf community, but I must admit that the wait for even some glimmer (lol, get it?) of info about house of wolves is becoming painful.

There is not much left for me to do in-game besides crucible and helping friends at this point.

I keep coming back for the community though, love my guys <3

It really is about the people. It's why I would get up at 4 am to play even though I have every item in the game :)
 
The gap between the DLCs is just too long. It would be different if they did something in-between them, such as the Trial of Osiris or some type of community events. Yet all we get is Iron Banner once in a while. I like Destiny, the gunplay is great and I always liked loot/grind games. Yet, I don't really play it anymore. I'm level 32 with all the exotics I want. I'll definitely play HoW, since I already have the season pass. After that I don't know, there are a lot of interesting games coming this fall, so I might pass on Comet and just wait for Destiny 2.
 
Not going to quote all who replied, but thanks for the insight. FWIW, I have seen a similar situation among my friends as well. We kind of had a loose group of about 15 of us that would play Destiny regularly, but I mostly stopped playing in November (didn't get the Crota DLC and was bored with the base game at that point). They kept going until about January though.

No one plays anymore. In fact, most of us have actually gone back to Warframe. Right now some of us are playing Bloodborne now. I've asked if they'll go back once Wolvies hits, but they said that even if they do, it will only to be nominally check it out since a lot of them bought the Season pass.
 
I just can't trust Bungie as a caretaker of an online MMO-ish game.

Only recently they started fixing the bugs that negatively impacted the players - that's just not acceptable.

And then there's their practice of lying to customers as a marketing tool. I still remember when they said Crota had multiple forms lol.

he does have multiple forms

he stands up
he sits down
 
I think HoW on May 19

It cannot release on that day, Bungie will shot themselves an arrow to the knee.
Anyway i know when HoW releases our group will put in a good amount of hours in it, but i was sold on destiny as an ever expanding and changing world and i really do not expect that anymore, the formula in which the content is delivered needs to change.
Yeap...

These two last weeks seems to be the biggest drop in Destiny population (PS4 here)... before that until mid March it was crazy active yet.

HoW needed to be released in March to give more fresh things to the game. And a new update in July.

Expansions can't take so long for these type of games.
Totally agree with it, on top of shrinking numbers i think Bloodborne had something to do with it as well.
 
Having posted in the Destiny OT's since launch, he's definitely right. We used to run through OTs in almost a week and a half up until March and then it's slowed down a huge amount. I used to have 30+ people on my friends list playing Destiny at any given time, even at the crack of dawn, but now? There's probably no more than 5 or 6 playing at night. There's just not enough content to keep people going. We stretched it out for 6 months but eventually I think people just hit a wall.

At least on GAF I would measure it by how fast the OT moves. When the same page is up for more than an hour I kwould sonsider that a huge drop off from say back in Feb a page might last 20 minutes. I guess it doesnt help that alot of the more active posters headed over to BB OT. I see those threads moving along nicely.

the community has mostly broke up for the time being. but when HOW drops, it will be like a HS reunion. And I cant wait becuase I really love the Destiny community on GAF.

100% anecdotal, with a significant does of "echo chamber". Many of us in DGAF frequent the OT, and have the lion's share of our Friends List made up of DGAFfers. Within this relatively homogenous group, it's really easy to detect changes in the 2 main litmus tests:

1) posting rate in the OT - in the peak times, it was almost impossible to keep up with. Now it's entirely possible you can double-post even if you wait 5 minutes. The first few times this happened, people actually said things like "wow, double post. That makes me sad... this wouldn't have happened 3 weeks ago."

2) how many friends are playing when you play, especially on reset night (Tuesday) - I mentioned in my post under the OP that last night was the first night in at least 3 weeks where the in-game friends list went onto a second page of people actually playing Destiny. At it's peak, that was 4+ pages on Tuesday, and almost always at least one full page at other times.

Bungie has dripped a few squishy stats at choice times, like when the Hard Mode of Crota's End released. Things like how many times Crota was killed, how many people bought Ice Breaker when Xur had it, etc. That said, there's no hard data.

Yeah, this. Having been a member of DGAF since long before the game even came out and having my friendlist being made up of the most hardcore Destiny players you can find, ranging from GAF to BNET to Reddit, does allow some insight into the activity of the game, among the hardcore at least.

When the amount of people playing Destiny on your friends list during reset day struggles to pass the first page and it takes DGAF more than 12 hours to go through a single page in a thread, you know that something is up.
 
I really don't know its kinda hard to get a read on where the game is going when I'm not sure that even Bungie can answer the question with any clarity.

Game plays so good but personally I see the focus on PvP content while PvE is more or less left alone, unless there is an exploit that needs to be patched to be a let down and really exposes how much is not there.
I took what was supposed to be a one week break a few months ago and now I won't play again until HoW releases.

When ever I go online I always see a bunch of gaffer friends playing usually on resets or xurday.
 
Honestly, the people I was playing with were the only reason I didn't go on hiatus sooner. As much as I love playing with these guys and hope to play with them again when I inevitably come back, my game time is limited and my backlog has become huge. It doesn't help that my schedule doesn't line up very consistently with most DGAFfers that I play with (for example, I barely if at all play on the weekends) so the reality is that I'm solo most of the the time I can jump on. I really wish this game had hit when I was in college or high school and single.

Yeah, I get it. I have a backlog, but my gaming philosophy is that if I have something to play that I'm enjoying, I stick with it and don't worry about the backlog. The threshold for where using your limited to time to play even with a good group in Destiny isn't as valuable as playing the new game obviously varies person to person.

I'm actually glad I don't have more time to play. I think I'd end up resenting the game. IMO, "rushing" through the content to max out 3 characters is just gonna lead to being upset with it that there wasn't more to do. I take a few 2-3 hour sips every week, and still have stuff to do. Hell, I still have a character at level 2.

Yeah 'games as 3D chat client' is a thing but this only works for Destiny if you have enough friends to max out a raid playlist. As someone who has 2-3 mates to play with we've grown very tired of the non-raid content, this is where the most attention needs to be paid IMO. The raids are great but due to the higher co-ordination required (at least in VoG I've heard CE is far less complex) I'm not sure they're ever going to work with random match making. The recent introduction of MM for weeklies helped a lot in my earning strange coins for Xur but I had several very frustrating runs with randos that would have had me snap my DS4 in two if I were attempting VoG.

That's what DGAF is for! My real life friends dropped out of destiny after the second week or so. I've been playing with DGAF guys ever since. If you'd LIKE to play more, but don't have a group, please go post int he DGAF OT. Great bunch of guys, many of which have had their groups decimated. I'm sure you can find a regular group to play with. I've never bothered with LFG sites at all or even random match making beyond crucible and the 'easy" stuff like ROC strikes or the weekly 30.
 
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You seem defensive. It's a valid criticism and is relevant to the topic, even if he's making it in sort of a snide way.

I dont see any well written criticism in his post. Just the same typical comment on every article about this game. Like you cant enjoy Destiny.
 
Yeah, this. Having been a member of DGAF since long before the game even came out and having my friendlist being made up of the most hardcore Destiny players from GAF to BNET to Reddit does allow some insight into the activity of the game, among the hardcore at least.

When the amount of people playing Destiny on your friends list during reset day struggles to pass the first page and it takes DGAF more than 12 hours to go through a single page in a thread, you know that something is up.

there was a point last week where my friend list had a total of 4 people playing destiny, 4! any second of any given day there would be at the very least 20 playing. its a pretty crazy drop off

althuogh my freinds list (mostly made up from DestinyGAF) will have 20+ playing bloodbourne at any given time.
 
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