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[Loki]

EDIT2- Wait, how did Duncan choke away this game?

I said that he choked away a couple of games in this series-- not necessarily tonight's game. Like I said above, he didn't play terribly, but the level he played at isn't going to cut it in a close-out game against the defending champions. He simply played "well" tonight. His points, field goal attempts, and blocks were well below his career playoff averages; that's fine if others are getting it done and you're playing as a unit, but tonight nothing was going well for anyone, so he needed to step up his play imo. The games I was referring to him "choking" (and by "choking" I mean subpar play, not necessarily late-game blunders) in were games 3, 4, and 5, though Horry bailed him out in game 5.

 

[Loki]

It's that he wasn't getting the ball AT ALL. Ginobili and Parker were TERRIBLE at getting their teammates involved...8 assists, 7 turnovers ain't gonna cut it.

Very true. They both played like ass. Unfortunately for Tim, he's the franchise player. Secondary players are allowed to have bad games, but star players are not-- at least not this late in the season.

 

[The Chosen One]

Sweet!

Sheed was able to vindicate himself after his stupidity in game 5. While Duncan didn't choke as bad as he did in game 5,he missed a lot of crucial free throws in the 3rd and 4th quarter. If made at least just a few more free throws, the Spurs wouldn't have been in a hole in the final 2 minutes.

Again props for Sheed for not only hitting big shots but also playing smart by not picking up the 6th foul.

Pistons in 7!!!!

 

[ParkPace]

Duncan at the press conference: "We all understand what we have to do... ummmm.."

He certainly loves to say 'ummmm' a lot, doesn't he? :lol "Hey, you've reached the Tim Duncan residence... ummmm, leave a message after the, ummmm, beep, and we'll get back to you, ummmmm. *click*"

 

[Bat]

Well, when Shaq had 3 bad games last finals, it didn't really ruin his reputation as an all time great or anything.

 

[Mrbob]

Sheed with his championship belt draped over his right shoulder during his espn interview! :lol

 

[SKluck]

2 7 game series in a row, down 3-2 in both, if they win game 7 in both on the road..... People gotta stop saying the Pistons are underdogs. I said it a thousand times last year, a hundred times this year, they don't deserve to win. But they take it anyway.

 

[Bowser]

haha, Sheed with the title belt talking to Stu Scott.

 

[BatiGOOOOOOL]

Like Bat said, Tony and Manu need to establish Tim early on. It makes the game easier for them. At times, all the 1-on-1 from the backcourt makes Tim look like Nazr, only fighting for offensive rebounds and tip ins.

Speaking of Nazr, WTF? He started the series great, but the Pistons frontcourt has swallowed him and those damn butter hands. I also think Rasho could be more of a defensive force right now for the team. It's not like Nazr is giving a good offensive contribution.

 

[Truelize]

Awesome game. Awesome series so far.

And to think everyone was complaining about how boring a finals this was gonna be. It's too bad more people weren't watching this series. This is a pretty good example of how basketball should be played.

And the post game interviews have been great too. I'm amazed at how polite and positive everyone is. The coaches are always complimenting each others teams, the players don't have any ego up there. It's just been great.

 

[Dilbert]

Ginobli was the least valuable player. How many times does it take to figure out that taking to the hole without a fucking clue what to do with the ball when you get there is a recipe for a turnover?

Also, I think Eva Longoria should be put in a cage high above the arena -- preferably hanging from the scoreboard -- and Tony Parker should be told that if he can't score 20 points with 8-10 assists, the bottom of the cage will open after the game, leading to her death. (Well, unless one of the Pistons takes mercy and gets the rebound.)

 

[ParkPace]

The prospects of late-game, Game 7, hack-a-Duncan worries me greatly. Ugh. Somebody on the Spurs better be nails from outside on Thursday.

 

[J2 Cool]

Ginobli was the least valuable player. How many times does it take to figure out that taking to the hole without a fucking clue what to do with the ball when you get there is a recipe for a turnover?

Agreed. Him and Parker just didn't play team ball, where as that's Detroit's specialty. If they just worked around Duncan, and hit the open guy when he became dominant, they'd be fine. This Ginobli drives and makes a shitty pass as he's completely shut down doesn't work. Not to mention, his shot was just off considering how tired he was from running around like an idiot. And Parker meanwhile is airballing an open 3 towards the end. Nerves? That certainly isn't doing much to overthrow the "soft" label. Robert Horry won't be saving the Spurs again. They need to get it together quick.

 

[Excess Poo Flakes]

haha, Sheed with the title belt talking to Stu Scott.

rofl

 

[ParkPace]

You know what pisses me off about this showing by San Antonio? The fact that none of it will make a difference. Even if the Spurs lose Game 7 and the series, they'll stand a good enough chance to be back in this very position next season. However, they'll still be soft as shit. Nobody will have gained the necessary killer instinct from this experience. It's just something the Spurs players and franchise in general can't seem to comprehend. Duncan and Parker will still crawl up like bitches into a corner the second things get rough, and Ginobili will still be flopping around the court every other play when everyone in America has seen that he's a good enough player to make his statement in the league without any of that shit.

Spurs can make the Finals again next season, but the same things that have led Detroit to outplay them for the past 4 straight games of this series (Horry's 3 in Game 5 is the only thing keeping SA from being backdoor swept out of the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row) will still be there next year. The talent will still be on the paper to get that far, but not those little extra things to get over the hump once they're there. Soft San Antonio bitches. Unless they have to play an 8th-seeded Knicks team without their best player or a Nets team that can't do anything but run a fast-break offense, they aren't going to win next year either. The Lakers beat the living hell out of them year after year until Shaq and Kobe broke up, and now it looks like they want NO PIECE of Detroit either.

... and people think San Antonio is some dynasty in the making? What the ROFL? :lol :lol No team led by Duncan will ever control the league. None. What a bitch. The legacy as a soft player is being written. I have more passion in my ingrown toenail than he does as a basketball player or team leader. Opponents always give San Antonio teams respect for their class and sportsmanship but you never hear other teams' players talk about the Spurs like they are unbeatable. The Spurs intimidate nobody. Their point guard is making 11 million dollars a year but he has no jumpshot or ability to run an offense when things get tight. Their coach is supposedly one of the best in the league but his ability to make in-game adjustments is terrible. I didn't see any Bowen on Billups even though Chauncey was going off ALL night. I didn't see Rasho in there to take away minutes from the struggling Nazr Mohammed. I didn't see Devin fucking Brown in the game at all last night. Let's win with the guys that aren't getting the job done. Okay, then - let's NOT win. Do you realize that he didn't even hold a practice between Games 5 and 6? WTF?!

Bottom line for me is, anything short of a Game 7 blowout by San Antonio keeps me from believing that the Spurs are the better team in this series. And I'm a Spurs fan. Let me see the Spurs actually set the pace in one of these late-series Finals games. They are getting outplayed on both sides of the ball, and have been for over a week now. Champions my ass. Lucky champions, if that.

 

[scorcho]

anyone know the tv ratings for this series thus far?

i had a feeling that this series was going to be much more competitive than most believed. i just didn't think that Detroit was capable of dropping 90+ on the Spurs in their victories. wtf happened to the Spurs?

 

[sol5377]

You know what pisses me off about this showing by San Antonio? The fact that none of it will make a difference. Even if the Spurs lose Game 7 and the series, they'll stand a good enough chance to be back in this very position next season. However, they'll still be soft as shit. Nobody will have gained the necessary killer instinct from this experience. It's just something the Spurs players and franchise in general can't seem to comprehend. Duncan and Parker will still crawl up like bitches into a corner the second things get rough, and Ginobili will still be flopping around the court every other play when everyone in America has seen that he's a good enough player to make his statement in the league without any of that shit.

Spurs can make the Finals again next season, but the same things that have led Detroit to outplay them for the past 4 straight games of this series (Horry's 3 in Game 5 is the only thing keeping SA from being backdoor swept out of the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row) will still be there next year. The talent will still be on the paper to get that far, but not those little extra things to get over the hump once they're there. Soft San Antonio bitches. Unless they have to play an 8th-seeded Knicks team without their best player or a Nets team that can't do anything but run a fast-break offense, they aren't going to win next year either. The Lakers beat the living hell out of them year after year until Shaq and Kobe broke up, and now it looks like they want NO PIECE of Detroit either.

... and people think San Antonio is some dynasty in the making? What the ROFL? :lol :lol No team led by Duncan will ever control the league. None. What a bitch. The legacy as a soft player is being written. I have more passion in my ingrown toenail than he does as a basketball player or team leader. Opponents always give San Antonio teams respect for their class and sportsmanship but you never hear other teams' players talk about the Spurs like they are unbeatable. The Spurs intimidate nobody. Their point guard is making 11 million dollars a year but he has no jumpshot or ability to run an offense when things get tight. Their coach is supposedly one of the best in the league but his ability to make in-game adjustments is terrible. I didn't see any Bowen on Billups even though Chauncey was going off ALL night. I didn't see Rasho in there to take away minutes from the struggling Nazr Mohammed. I didn't see Devin fucking Brown in the game at all last night. Let's win with the guys that aren't getting the job done. Okay, then - let's NOT win. Do you realize that he didn't even hold a practice between Games 5 and 6? WTF?!

Bottom line for me is, anything short of a Game 7 blowout by San Antonio keeps me from believing that the Spurs are the better team in this series. And I'm a Spurs fan. Let me see the Spurs actually set the pace in one of these late-series Finals games. They are getting outplayed on both sides of the ball, and have been for over a week now. Champions my ass. Lucky champions, if that.

I disagree. The Pistons are a GREAT team and the Spurs have brought them to their brink. The Spurs have manhandled the best of the west... and I mean MANHANDLED. The Spurs rarely lose at home and last nights games was a case of the Pistions just playing a little harder and making those few extra shots. I think Game 7 will be a classic as well, but I think the Spurs will pull it out in the end. Duncan is not soft as shit. He's been taking on the Wallace bro's all by himself and holding his own for the most part. Game 7 will show Duncan as the true hall of famer that he is. Just watch...

 

[jobber]

*smh*


The guards tried to win us the game last night, but it was mostly the D killing Tim that cost us the game. You can't blame Parker, Manu, or Barry for not defending well because Detroit kept setting picks causing Tim to guard Billups. It's been happening all series. It's a bitch cause Sheed goes to the hole right after the switch so Tim and Tony can't switch back.

 

[Pellham]

You know what I find hilarious. If Horry hadn't made his game 5 3 at the end, the Pistons would have wrapped this one up 4-2. So much for the Spurs being that much better. :lol

 

[bionic77]

I disagree. The Pistons are a GREAT team and the Spurs have brought them to their brink. The Spurs have manhandled the best of the west... and I mean MANHANDLED. The Spurs rarely lose at home and last nights games was a case of the Pistions just playing a little harder and making those few extra shots. I think Game 7 will be a classic as well, but I think the Spurs will pull it out in the end. Duncan is not soft as shit. He's been taking on the Wallace bro's all by himself and holding his own for the most part. Game 7 will show Duncan as the true hall of famer that he is. Just watch...

Duncan is a hall of famer and while I wouldn't call him soft, but at the same time the guy definitely does not have a killer instinct. The Spurs were getting all the calls early in the game and the Spurs could have put them away early if they had that killer instinct. The only guys who show any sort of killer instinct on San Antonio are Horry and Ginobli. The bad news for San Antionio is that Horry used up all 20 minutes of his playoff usefulness in game 5 so he is pretty much going to be a non-factor and Ginobli hasn't been the same since he got hurt.

I have to give a lot of credit to Detroit. I was definitely bashing them for getting away with too many fouls, but as I saw it the Spurs got more calls for the first three quarters and Detroit really showed a lot of heart to keep it close and then take the lead. Detroit had to play basketball and not their usual brand of thugball, but to their credit they rose to the challenge and won, as Larry Brown would say, "playing the right way". I still get annoyed when I see Rasheed Wallace clearly hack Duncan on the replay and then act like he was just given the worst call of all time. WTF is going through his brain? I mean, does he really think that he gets special rules? You aren't Jordan Rasheed.

I am picking Detroit for game 7. I just don't see the Spurs being able to handle the pressure. Ginobli can't do it all by himself and I don't see Duncan developing a killer instinct overnight.

San Antionio is going to regret that shit effort they gave in game 6 after they lose tommorrow. They will have all summer to think about it.

And their problems are only going to get worse next year when the Lakers rebound to win another championship. Everyone knows that a good Lakers team owns the Spurs mentally.

 

[The Chosen One]

You know what I find hilarious. If Horry hadn't made his game 5 3 at the end, the Pistons would have wrapped this one up 4-2. So much for the Spurs being that much better. :lol

I was joking about that last night, but realistically you can't assume the Pistons would have come out with the same intensity as last night if they already had a 3-2 edge. The Spurs wouldn't have already planned their parade for Thursday and I doubt the Pistons would have played with the same urgency. Knowing the Pistons, they probably would have taken the night off.

Truth is, the Pistons play better when their backs are to the wall.

 

[sol5377]

Duncan is a hall of famer and while I wouldn't call him soft, but at the same time the guy definitely does not have a killer instinct. The Spurs were getting all the calls early in the game and the Spurs could have put them away early if they had that killer instinct. The only guys who show any sort of killer instinct on San Antonio are Horry and Ginobli. The bad news for San Antionio is that Horry used up all 20 minutes of his playoff usefulness in game 5 so he is pretty much going to be a non-factor and Ginobli hasn't been the same since he got hurt.

I have to give a lot of credit to Detroit. I was definitely bashing them for getting away with too many fouls, but as I saw it the Spurs got more calls for the first three quarters and Detroit really showed a lot of heart to keep it close and then take the lead. Detroit had to play basketball and not their usual brand of thugball, but to their credit they rose to the challenge and won, as Larry Brown would say, "playing the right way". I still get annoyed when I see Rasheed Wallace clearly hack Duncan on the replay and then act like he was just given the worst call of all time. WTF is going through his brain? I mean, does he really think that he gets special rules? You aren't Jordan Rasheed.

I am picking Detroit for game 7. I just don't see the Spurs being able to handle the pressure. Ginobli can't do it all by himself and I don't see Duncan developing a killer instinct overnight.

San Antionio is going to regret that shit effort they gave in game 6 after they lose tommorrow. They will have all summer to think about it.

And their problems are only going to get worse next year when the Lakers rebound to win another championship. Everyone knows that a good Lakers team owns the Spurs mentally.

Ignoring your last sentence, I'd have to respond by saying that Tim Duncan does have a killer instinct. It's just hard for him to will his way to victory against a great defensive pistions team who has two of the best big men in the league, all while he has to put up with two bum ankles. If I remember correctly, Duncan dominated the Nuggets, then Seattle, then the Suns and he has played well against the Pistons (barring missed free throws). In past years, Duncan has killed the Knicks in the finals, killed the Nets in the finals, killed the Lakers in the semis and has destroyed many other teams. He not only destroys teams directly, he also does it indirectly with his help defense and passes out of double teams to get his teammates open shots. In Game 7, Duncan will further prove why he's the best.

 

[bionic77]

Ignoring your last sentence, I'd have to respond by saying that Tim Duncan does have a killer instinct. It's just hard for him to will his way to victory against a great defensive pistions team who has two of the best big men in the league, all while he has to put up with two bum ankles. If I remember correctly, Duncan dominated the Nuggets, then Seattle, then the Suns and he has played well against the Pistons (barring missed free throws). In past years, Duncan has killed the Knicks in the finals, killed the Nets in the finals, killed the Lakers in the semis and has destroyed many other teams. He not only destroys teams directly, he also does it indirectly with his help defense and passes out of double teams to get his teammates open shots. In Game 7, Duncan will further prove why he's the best.

Duncan was getting anything he wanted last night and he should have tried to rip out the hearts of the Pistons. He didn't though. Hell, the Spurs weren't even LOOKING for him for a lot of the game. He should have gone ape shit at that, but he just stayed within the offense and wasn't actively looking for his shot. Granted, that is one of the things I love about the way Duncan plays his game and technically that is the right thing to do (I don't mean not give Duncan the ball, I mean don't force a shot), but Duncan has to learn to take over a game too.

He has the ability to do it, I just don't know if he has the personality.

 

[DMczaf]

anyone know the tv ratings for this series thus far?

i had a feeling that this series was going to be much more competitive than most believed. i just didn't think that Detroit was capable of dropping 90+ on the Spurs in their victories. wtf happened to the Spurs?

They are starting to go up a little bit, the series started out around a 5.0 rating, but Game 6 got a 7.2 IIRC.

BUT, this is compared to last year's series that averaged like a 12-14.0 rating.

 

[Bowser]

EL DIABLO! :lol

 

[DMczaf]

:lol :lol

WTF, his wig is falling off!

 

[Bowser]

lmao, Chad Ford's latest "mock" draft is just that -- something to mock!

5. CHARLOTTE BOBCATS
Danny Granger
NEW MEXICO | SENIOR | SMALL FORWARD
HEIGHT: 6-8 | WEIGHT: 225 | AGE: 22
The Bobcats are trying to move up in the draft to get their hands on Marvin Williams or Paul. If Paul, Marvin and Deron Williams are off the board, the team will choose between potential (Green) and immediate impact (Granger). Given Bernie Bickerstaff's track record last year, don't be surprised if it's Granger.

umm...no

6. UTAH JAZZ
Channing Frye
ARIZONA | SENIOR | CENTER
HEIGHT: 6-11 | WEIGHT: 245 | AGE: 22
Call this a hunch. The Jazz still are trying to move up to get a shot at Paul or Deron Williams. If they're unsuccessful, they'll try to address their other need for a big, athletic shot blocker. For months they were high on Vazquez, but have cooled considerably in the last week. That leaves Frye as the most logical choice. He hasn't worked out for the Jazz, but that doesn't mean they won't take him. He'd be a good fit in Utah.

WTF, that's WAYYYYY too high for Frye.

10. LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Martell Webster
SEATTLE PREP | H.S. | SHOOTING GUARD
HEIGHT: 6-7 | WEIGHT: 235 | AGE: 18
There is talk, a lot of talk, that the Lakers have promised high school center Andrew Bynum that they'll take him if they keep their pick. Bynum sure looks like Shaq, and he's worked out well, but it's just a little too much to believe right now. It would be years before Phil Jackson would give him a whiff of playing time. Until we get to the bottom of the Bynum stuff, we're moving Felton out and Webster in. With Jackson running the show, the Lakers are going to need a big shooter. Webster is the best on the board. Think of him as a young Glen Rice.

I will laugh my ass of if the Lakers pass over Felton.

13. CHARLOTTE BOBCATS
Raymond Felton
NORTH CAROLINA | JUNIOR | POINT GUARD
HEIGHT: 6-0 | WEIGHT: 200 | AGE: 20
This is a real steal for the Bobcats if they can land Felton here. The Bobcats need a point guard badly and he's a local kid to boot. He's the fastest point guard in the draft baseline to baseline, has improved his outside shooting and is an excellent floor leader. A major upgrade over what they have now.

Shit, I'll be doing backflips if we get Felton here.

Overall, it sucks :lol

 

[DMczaf]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/050622&num=0

I wrote that line after the Pistons fended off Miami in Game 7. Did I follow my own advice? Of course not! After Robert Horry's heroics in Game 5, I thought the 2005 NBA Finals were finished. Unfortunately, so did the Spurs. They planned their championship parade for Thursday, then played Game 6 like they were waiting for the Pistons to self-destruct and go home. Never happened. Now we're headed for the fourth Game 7 in 25 years … which would be fantastic except like I said before, this has turned into one of those crummy Oscar seasons in which nobody made a movie good enough to win "Best Picture," only they have to hand out the award, anyway (much like Nash's winning the MVP).

Think about it. The Spurs just lost three of the past four games (completely inexcusable under any circumstances), were blown out four times this spring (once against Denver, once against Seattle, twice against Detroit) and failed to finish off a team just 48 hours removed from one of most crushing losses in the history of the league (and at home, no less). Would the '86 Celtics have lost Game 6 at home last night? What about the '92 Bulls? Or the '82 Lakers? Come on. Any team worth its salt takes care of business last night. If the Spurs prevail Thursday, they're still the flimsiest champ since the '94 Rockets. I take back every nice thing I ever said about them.

(Note: I would have gone with the '99 Spurs over the '94 Rockets if that '99 season ever happened. When NBA TV finally puts me in charge of its network, my first move will be to switch Rick Kamia to decaf. My second move will be to ban all WNBA scores and updates from the scrolling ticker. My third move will be to purchase "The White Shadow" rights and run "Shadow" doubleheaders on Tuesday nights. My fourth move will be "H-O-R-S-E Me Baby One More Time," where failed lottery picks play games of H-O-R-S-E for $25,000. And my fifth move would be to destroy all footage from the 1999 season. I'm revealing moves 6 through 500 when I get the job. Until then …)

:lol :lol

 

[Ristamar]

...this has turned into one of those crummy Oscar seasons in which nobody made a movie good enough to win "Best Picture," only they have to hand out the award, anyway (much like Nash's winning the MVP).

Oh, screw you, Simmons.

 

[BatiGOOOOOOL]

Damn, people talk as if the Spurs were playing a shitty ass team that they should've swept. Meanwhile, in the real world, they're playing an amazing basketball team with lots of weapons and an excellent coach.

The Spurs have looked bad, sure, but how can anyone act as if losing to a team like the Pistons in a clinching game was the end of the world? Afterall, they have forcced a Game 7 despite playing below their normal standards.

What the Spurs need to do is recognize that Tim is their bread and butter. Once they realize that the best player in the world needs to be their focus, then they'll be fine. Of course, Tim has to demand that ball too, with no fear and attack relentlessly.

 

[Aruarian Reflection]

Oh, screw you, Simmons.

Yeah, I love how he always sneaks in jabs at Nash :lol

 

[Bowser]

I was watching AtH, and Woody Paige hit the nail on the head when he said that Ginobili was great in the first two games, but since has gone BERSERK! He needs to learn to penetrate and then dish, not penetrate, flop and throw something up.

 

[BatiGOOOOOOL]

Not only has Manu gone beserk from the Pistons defense asfixiating him, but he also seems dead tired at times. Hopefully he will play it cool on thursday and try to make smarter plays.

LIKE GIVE THE BALL MORE TO TIM FUCKING DUNCAN!!!

 

[Loki]

I just wanted to say that Tony Parker should learn how to shoot and pass the ball during the offseason. I mean, how can an NBA point guard NOT be able to run a competent pick and roll? Every single time he runs the PnR with Duncan, he's looking to penetrate; this doesn't keep the defense honest. Duncan was WIDE OPEN several times on the roll in the past couple of games, and Parker doesn't even see him, much less have the ability to deliver the pass. Disgraceful. Seriously-- it's not even just the PnR, it's everything. He just CANNOT pass the ball in the halfcourt, and even on the break, he's only adequate. Manu is a more skilled passer than he is, as is Barry. For a PG you signed for $10M per, and who you count on as being one of the cornerstones of your franchise going forward, that's unacceptable. He's not young anymore, and we should no longer chalk up the huge holes in his game to his inexperience. Dude better get it together next season.


He also needs to work on his dreadful outside shot. How many airballs from 3 must he put up before someone lights a fire under his ass to practice his J?

 

[Bowser]

lol, Shawn Bradley's retiring:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2092800

Guess that T-Mac dunk finally did him in.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

a whole generation of stars will have to find someone new to dunk on.

 

[Loki]

a whole generation of stars will have to find someone new to dunk on.

Yao is already pretty far along on the Bradley training program. Yoked on by Kobe, Finley, Swift, Amare...did I forget anyone?

 

[Bowser]

RealGM posted that sources say the Suns are trading Q. Richardson to the Knicks for Kurt Thomas, and the trade is pending league approval and will be announced after the Finals end. Good trade for the Suns, imo.

edit: Also, the deal includes NY sending a conditional first round pick to the Suns, which makes this deal straight up robbery by the Suns.

 

[DarienA]

Damn, people talk as if the Spurs were playing a shitty ass team that they should've swept. Meanwhile, in the real world, they're playing an amazing basketball team with lots of weapons and an excellent coach.

The Spurs have looked bad, sure, but how can anyone act as if losing to a team like the Pistons in a clinching game was the end of the world? Afterall, they have forcced a Game 7 despite playing below their normal standards.

What the Spurs need to do is recognize that Tim is their bread and butter. Once they realize that the best player in the world needs to be their focus, then they'll be fine. Of course, Tim has to demand that ball too, with no fear and attack relentlessly.

Well people are probably talking like this because you know... the Spurs aren't exactly a shitty team when it comes to defense either... anyway my main point is that I think Tim has no balls... I've never seen Tim demand anything.. and that's what makes him less than an all-time great for me.

When the f*ck is he gonna realize this is my team and sometimes I have to just go in the huddle and say f*ck this I WANT THE BALL.

 

[BatiGOOOOOOL]

I'll give you that the Spurs D has been porous in this series. They need to re-establish it tonight if they want to pull this out.

As for Tim, I think people exaggerate. Yes, he should be more demanding of the ball down the stretch than he has been this series, but he has gotten the ball many times before with the game on the line and has made great things happen. Now because of this series, people will erase what he has done through his career? Has anyone forgotten about the game he had at Staples to close out the Lakers dinasty or the near quadruple double in Game 6 of the Finals that same year? Remember he is also playing on two bum ankles. Couple that with the Pistons physicality and I'm sure ths series hasn't been easy on Tim's body.

 

[AirBrian]

"I'm announcing my retirement today. I feel it's a good time to leave the game and spend more time with my family. Also, I hereby proclaim Yao Ming as my successor for all you youngsters to dunk on."

"Get over here, bitch."

"FREE AT LAST! FREE AT LAST! THANK GOD ALMIGHTY, I'M FREE AT LAST!"

"What! Bradley retired? HELL YES!!! TIME TO PARTY!"

Later that night...

 

[DarienA]

Remember he is also playing on two bum ankles. Couple that with the Pistons physicality and I'm sure ths series hasn't been easy on Tim's body.

Nobody accepted the injury excuse for the Heat....

 

[EekTheKat]

Also, the deal includes NY sending a conditional first round pick to the Suns, which makes this deal straight up robbery by the Suns

Oh Isiah :lol

What's next? Trade Jamal Crawford to the Mavericks for a Lampshade and a granola bar?

 

[BatiGOOOOOOL]

Nobody accepted the injury excuse for the Heat....

And nobody crucified Shaq's 16 points and 6 rebounds games half as much as they have done with Tim.

 

[DarienA]

And nobody crucified Shaq's 16 points and 6 rebounds games half as much as they have done with Tim.

?? Really? Wow I must have been reading a different thread than you were then...

 

[BatiGOOOOOOL]

I'm talking about the media and the general public. We're all just a bunch of homers and 1-player cocksuckers in this thread.

 

[jobber]

I'm talking about the media and the general public. We're all just a bunch of homers and 1-player cocksuckers in this thread.

It's been a hell of a ride.....


I say we go out and loot tonight when the Spurs win.

 

[DarienA]

I'm talking about the media and the general public. We're all just a bunch of homers and 1-player cocksuckers in this thread.

Do people know Duncan is hurt? I have to best honest I haven't watched all of the games in this series.. but I don't remember it ever being mentioned while I was watching the pieces of different games... Shaq's injury was generally always mentioned at the start of each game...

 

[AirBrian]

Duncan's ankles have been mentioned just about every game this series either during the pre-game or game itself. It has not been talked about to the same extent as Shaq's injuries, but of course Duncan didn't miss 2 (or was it 3?) straight games this playoffs like Shaq did.

 

[BatiGOOOOOOL]

Of course not. That's not Tim's style. And I also don't like using it as an excuse, because IMO the Pistons have had more fire in this series and have wanted it more. But when I see so much criticism against him, I have to bring it up. I agree that maybe he could've played better, but he is also not a superhuman. Hell, Tim himself said the ankles start hurting around the start of the 4th quarter.

Calling him a no heartless pussy for playing the way he has, while physically diminished, against the Pistons frontcourt is absolutely retarded.