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DETROIT vs. SAN ANTONIO - NBA Finals!
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BatiGOOOOOOL said:
Oh no. You misunderstand. I wasn't calling him a heartless pussy for his current play(as the my missus will tell you I can't stand him). I was calling him a heartless pussy in general. I've pretty much always viewed him that way.
I love the fact that the Knicks can shed that albatross Houston...
Bowser said:
Kurt is a Grade-A bum. He may fit in OK with the Suns, but he was useless for the Knicks. He's slow and has zero post up game. His defense was OK (good against slow post up players and poor against quicker forwards) and his mid-range shot is good, but that's all he is. The Knicks didn't need him. That conditional 1st rounder is likely to be one of the two sent to NY in the Nazr for Rose trade by San Antonio. It'll probably be the 29th or 30th pick.
Talent-wise, Q is head and shoulders above Kurt and he's 7 years younger.
sol5377 said:
I'm pretty sure it's a future 1st rounder
edit: ok, now mass confusion is occuring: Chad Ford is saying it's Q-Rich and a conditional 1st for Kurt Thomas in his description, but in his title it says KT and 1st for Q-Rich.
WTF?
edit2: Arizona Central News says KT and 1st for Q-Rich
edit3: I assume right now Isiah's like this:
Hell Yeah, I just raped the Suns on that deal! Shit, who cares about 1st round picks, we're getting Q-mothafuckin-Rich!
WTF? Did the Lakers and Bobcats make a deal?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2005/index
It has Lakers at 5 and Bobcats at 10, but when clicking on the Lakers link it says:
That can't be right because we don't have a 2nd round pick this year OR next year.
edit: nvm, that pick is from the Rush trade, however, RealGM posted that the ESPN draft order site has been going wonky with weird ass positons (once it had the Lakers with 3 first round picks).
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2005/index
It has Lakers at 5 and Bobcats at 10, but when clicking on the Lakers link it says:
That can't be right because we don't have a 2nd round pick this year OR next year.
edit: nvm, that pick is from the Rush trade, however, RealGM posted that the ESPN draft order site has been going wonky with weird ass positons (once it had the Lakers with 3 first round picks).
Ninja Scooter
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Bowser said:
there was a rumored trade that would send the 10, Caron Butler and Cook to Charlotte for the Cats 2 first round picks, but that was weeks ago, and i haven't heard much about it since. Probably just a typo on the website.
Ninja Scooter said:
Well, it was brought up again just a couple of hours ago on hoopsworld.com
But now, Laker fans on RealGM are saying that on radio station 570 the Lakers and Blazers are talking about a deal which would send Reuben Patterson and #3 for Caron Butler, Chucky Atkins and #10.
The Chosen One
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actually that's a good question, if the Spurs do win it who will be the MVP?
Probably Duncan but he really hasn't had a MVP performance this series. Manu has been borderline garbage after the first two games. And Parker has been mostly ineffective the whole series.
I wouldn't be surprised if they try to give the MVP to Robert Horry... :lol
Probably Duncan but he really hasn't had a MVP performance this series. Manu has been borderline garbage after the first two games. And Parker has been mostly ineffective the whole series.
I wouldn't be surprised if they try to give the MVP to Robert Horry... :lol
http://www.sanantoniolightning.com/
Definitely a fake but some funny ass shit.
Definitely a fake but some funny ass shit.
Ninja Scooter
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Bowser said:
that trade was rumored a couple days ago. The Lakers have a handful of deals featuring Caron on the table it seems, but nothing is concrete as of yet.
BatiGOOOOOOL
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I also accept the bet.
I know the Spurs face an extremely tough challenge tonight, but they have what it takes to come through.
I know the Spurs face an extremely tough challenge tonight, but they have what it takes to come through.
You can color me as one very concerned Spurs fan....
Where are the hard fouls going to come from? Game 7's are all about asserting your physical presence and that's something the Spurs just don't do.
What about the clutch free throws to keep the pressure on Detroit?
How many times are the Spurs going to pass the ball around the half-court trying to break down the Pistons defense before realizing the Pistons defense ISN'T going to break down and they're probably better off taking the first or second, or even third, good shot they get?
I don't have enough fingers on both of my hands to count the number of times Nazr isn't going to finish at the hoop or catch a pass right to him.
If there was a page in the NBA record book for the player who dribbled into the lane the most times only to lose the ball without even beginning to get a shot off, it would have a nice big picture of Tony Parker on it.
Al Michaels can just STFU with all this "the bankshot is Tim's moneyshot" garbage too. Fact is, anybody who watches the Spurs knows that Duncan hasn't been able to hit the bankshot consistently for about 3-4 years. He used to be so confident in that shot that he'd pull up for it about as often as he pulls up his penis to piss in the urinal. Now he only takes the shot - and reluctantly, at that - if that's all the defender will give him, and more often than not he puts too much muscle into it and it bounces over the rim.
Note to Brent Barry: stop putting your hands on your man's shoulder blade and neck. That's not how you play defense, and you get called on it EVERY GODDAMN TIME by the refs.
Billups is Detroit's best offensive threat this series, so I'd like to see our best perimeter defender on HIM please. Yes, that means Bowen.
The next time Duncan says, "We know what we have to do", "We know what we just gave up", or some derivative of "We already realize/know... blah blah", I know what I have to do: punch him in the teeth. They obviously DON'T know or DON'T realize, since the same criticisms of Duncan's teams 5 years ago still apply today: lack of leadership, mental toughness, and killer instinct.
If this Game 7 is close, and there's no reason to assume it won't be, you have to pick Detroit - the team that can hit their free throws. Spurs need a fast start to build their confidence up, and on the flip side a fast start by Detroit may mean a quick end to Game 7. I just don't believe the Spurs can keep their composure unless this game is made somewhat easier for them somehow.
And so help me God, the refs better not overcall the game early. Let the players play, and let the teams decide who is better ON THE COURT.
Despite my concerns, I still hope the Spurs win tonight. Not exactly the Finals performance overall to get the casual fan to start thinking Spurs dynasty, but winning a title is better than not winning a title any day of the year.
EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot one thing: FUCK THE PISTONS!
Where are the hard fouls going to come from? Game 7's are all about asserting your physical presence and that's something the Spurs just don't do.
What about the clutch free throws to keep the pressure on Detroit?
How many times are the Spurs going to pass the ball around the half-court trying to break down the Pistons defense before realizing the Pistons defense ISN'T going to break down and they're probably better off taking the first or second, or even third, good shot they get?
I don't have enough fingers on both of my hands to count the number of times Nazr isn't going to finish at the hoop or catch a pass right to him.
If there was a page in the NBA record book for the player who dribbled into the lane the most times only to lose the ball without even beginning to get a shot off, it would have a nice big picture of Tony Parker on it.
Al Michaels can just STFU with all this "the bankshot is Tim's moneyshot" garbage too. Fact is, anybody who watches the Spurs knows that Duncan hasn't been able to hit the bankshot consistently for about 3-4 years. He used to be so confident in that shot that he'd pull up for it about as often as he pulls up his penis to piss in the urinal. Now he only takes the shot - and reluctantly, at that - if that's all the defender will give him, and more often than not he puts too much muscle into it and it bounces over the rim.
Note to Brent Barry: stop putting your hands on your man's shoulder blade and neck. That's not how you play defense, and you get called on it EVERY GODDAMN TIME by the refs.
Billups is Detroit's best offensive threat this series, so I'd like to see our best perimeter defender on HIM please. Yes, that means Bowen.
The next time Duncan says, "We know what we have to do", "We know what we just gave up", or some derivative of "We already realize/know... blah blah", I know what I have to do: punch him in the teeth. They obviously DON'T know or DON'T realize, since the same criticisms of Duncan's teams 5 years ago still apply today: lack of leadership, mental toughness, and killer instinct.
If this Game 7 is close, and there's no reason to assume it won't be, you have to pick Detroit - the team that can hit their free throws. Spurs need a fast start to build their confidence up, and on the flip side a fast start by Detroit may mean a quick end to Game 7. I just don't believe the Spurs can keep their composure unless this game is made somewhat easier for them somehow.
And so help me God, the refs better not overcall the game early. Let the players play, and let the teams decide who is better ON THE COURT.
Despite my concerns, I still hope the Spurs win tonight. Not exactly the Finals performance overall to get the casual fan to start thinking Spurs dynasty, but winning a title is better than not winning a title any day of the year.
EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot one thing: FUCK THE PISTONS!
Ninja Scooter
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Bowser said:
woah, i didn't know Hoopsworld and Pincus were reporting it today? Im trying to log into the Lakersground forums, as Pincus regularly posts there, but the site is being hammered right now. That would be a great deal though. We could get a top flight PG (Deron or Felton, though i think the front office has their eye on that high school kid Gerald Green) with the 5th, then take a solid bigman like Diogu with the 13th. Im not getting my hopes up too high though.
Aruarian Reflection
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AirBrian said:
:lol. I'll be watching out for that :
BatiGOOOOOOL said:
Guys I am NOT doing this bet. I was suggesting you do the bet with Incognito or other Pistons fans or Spurs haters. I just don't give a damn to make a avatar or ban bet over this game. But for someone like Incognito whose life is dedicated to cheating on women and hating on the Spurs, it becomes a lot more interesting. The Spurs fans have shown up, where are the Pistons fans? Don't they have the balls?
I only participate in bets that involve the Lakers or the Steelers. I will also make an exception for any bet that involves bad things happening to Tom Brady.
Mac the KNife
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Go Pistons. Let's get this shit started.
Ninja Scooter
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Alonzo Mourning officially has wasted all the good will he built up during his illness.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_a...o_center_wants_more_minutes_or_he_may_retire/
I hope the Heat tell his whiny bitchass to fuck off. He can take his kidney and go home already.
FUUUUUUUCK you. Since when is now showing up to work considered working your butt off"?
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_a...o_center_wants_more_minutes_or_he_may_retire/
I hope the Heat tell his whiny bitchass to fuck off. He can take his kidney and go home already.
FUUUUUUUCK you. Since when is now showing up to work considered working your butt off"?
Ninja Scooter said:
Pfft, what good? All he did was demand trades to teams he thought could win the title ever since the operation. I hated his ass when he went to the Nets, I hated his ass when he cried in Toronto, and I hate his ass when he went to the Heat. Bitch!
Oh yeah
This is how a heart BREAKS!
Rabid Wolverine
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Detroit over Spurs.
The Spurs are just so shaky. They are fumbling the ball all over the place. Nazr, Duncan, hell even Barry and Parker at times, they catch the ball and lose it for a brief second. They aren't showing the mettle they need for the last minutes of the game.
Ben, Rasheed and Billups with 2 fouls... The Spurs should be going off.
Ben, Rasheed and Billups with 2 fouls... The Spurs should be going off.
Spurs are getting the easy opportunities, just not knocking them down. So far this game seems to be in the Spurs favor, but I can't help but feel SA should have a decent lead at this point.
The refs are f'n ridiculous. Calling every little thing. Any wonder that the score is only 30-29 right now?
The refs are f'n ridiculous. Calling every little thing. Any wonder that the score is only 30-29 right now?
Aruarian Reflection
Chauffeur de la gdlk
Cloudy said:
There we go.
When was the last time Duncan touched the ball on offense? What BS offense by San Antonio. What BS defense by SA as well. How much are you going to let the Pistons pass the ball freely around the basket before you realize that preventing such things is about the ONLY thing Rasho Nesterovic is good at?
Pretty abysmal game so far. I'd blame it on the refs like you guys, but it really does just come down to really shitty shot percentage.
Unless Duncan really picks up in the second half, I really don't see how he gets all of this "best player on the floor by a long shot," rhetoric out of the media. He's always been consistently good, but never an absolutely amazing clutch player.
What's this shit about best power-forward of all time? I hope they shut up with that if the Spurs don't pull it out.
BTW, anyone notice that Tay finally hit a three?
Unless Duncan really picks up in the second half, I really don't see how he gets all of this "best player on the floor by a long shot," rhetoric out of the media. He's always been consistently good, but never an absolutely amazing clutch player.
What's this shit about best power-forward of all time? I hope they shut up with that if the Spurs don't pull it out.
BTW, anyone notice that Tay finally hit a three?
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