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Doctor Who 50th Anniversary |OT| Splendid Chap, All Of Them

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This is probably going to be my first time watching Doctor Who on BBC America, so I want to know if they show a lot of commercials thus shortening the run time?

It's a simulcast, so it's going to be the same as BBC One, which has no commercials during the run.


I believe it was said that BBC America would be adding commercials to the simulcast, though. They'll start at the same time, but it'll finish later in the States.

That would defeat the purpose of the simulcast, though
 
I believe it was said that BBC America would be adding commercials to the simulcast, though. They'll start at the same time, but it'll finish later in the States.
 

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Where did you read this? I would like to think they're not that stupid.

Wouldn't they be stupid not to? For casual viewers of Who, they don't know any better about BBC1 not having commercials and ending later and this is a relatively big TV event with lots of those kinds of viewers. They're definitely going to have commercials.
 

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Jealous of the Glory that is Johnny Depp
is this special going to be the first appearance of the 12th doctor? really excited for peter capaldi, was getting sick of matt smith and his antics.
 
Going through Dr Who for the first time. Up to the 3rd season of the first doctor.

Going the list of serials for the season, 3/4 of them are missing. The realisation of how bad the missing episodes scenario has finally sunken in.

Oh yea, the first doctor is one of the most "british" persons i've ever come across.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Going through Dr Who for the first time. Up to the 3rd season of the first doctor.

Going the list of serials for the season, 3/4 of them are missing. The realisation of how bad the missing episodes scenario has finally sunken in.

Oh yea, the first doctor is one of the most "british" persons i've ever come across.
Tell me you are just curious about classic Who... And not that you're trying to get through the entire series just to get to the modern stuff.
 
Tell me you are just curious about classic Who... And not that you're trying to get through the entire series just to get to the modern stuff.

bit of both. Was always interested in the 4th doctor, but also suffer from being a continuity whore (though from what I gather, continuity doesn't play a big part in Who.)
 
Going through Dr Who for the first time. Up to the 3rd season of the first doctor.

Going the list of serials for the season, 3/4 of them are missing. The realisation of how bad the missing episodes scenario has finally sunken in.

Oh yea, the first doctor is one of the most "british" persons i've ever come across.

Wait until you see some Troughton, then you'll really be feeling the absence of the missing eps.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
bit of both. Was always interested in the 4th doctor, but also suffer from being a continuity whore (though from what I gather, continuity doesn't play a big part in Who.)
I suggest you dispense with it. You are right, contunuity really doesn't matter with this show.... And many (most) of the people who are gripped with the latest episodes of the series have not watched all the old serials.

Yes, there are nods to the legacy in modern Who. But you can go back and dabble in it later.. I don't think you will lose anything.

Honestly I just worry about you getting lost in the weeds and getting burned out by a huge burden of ancient British television before you get to the reason that people are talking about it today.

Start from 2005's Rose. Even that will give you 7 seasons to chew on before you catch up. It's a big enough burden :)

But sure, go back to classic Who when you feel like it. I just dont want it to stop you from joining us on the latest episodes, because honestly you'll have years of slogging through some very slow TV before you get caught up. I think you need to build up your Who fandom with some modern episodes first, and then you can brave the depths of old Who with that mature appreciation.

Just my opinion of course :)
 

Symphonia

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I'm tempted to go see a bunch of 3D movies closer to the anniversary in the hopes of seeing that trailer in 3D
I was shocked when they showed a Who trailer in front of, I think, Indiana Jones. It was a trailer for the Tennant/Freeman series, and I remember squealing like a little girl when I saw it.
 
I've never been to the cinema more than I did in February 2008, trying to catch the series 4 trailer 2 months before the series arrived.

Good times.
EDIT: Just been trawling YouTube. My GOD, this series has had some hype-building trailers. "Do you wanna come with me?"! The Series 2 and 3 BBCi trailers! Donna by the campfire! That Planet of the Dead trailer that sold it as a moody, ominous classic!

The move away from specially recorded trailers for the Moffat era has always slightly saddened me, as well cut as some of the trailers have been. Understandable, of course, but I can't deny the Anniversary trailer we got over the weekend has me far more excited than a simple clip package would have. Hoping for some specially shot Capaldi trails next year.
 
Nothing got me more excited than the Series 5 trailer that aired after The End of Time Part 2. That series just looked so rich and exciting and gorgeous.

Well, I suppose this "trailer" is perhaps a tad more exciting.
 

Slowdive

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Poster on GB who seems reliable now (since I think he was the first to hint at the trailer coming on after strictly) says it's likely pictures from a new trailer will be released by the weekend then it will be shown on the 9th. :)
 
Nothing got me more excited than the Series 5 trailer that aired after The End of Time Part 2. That series just looked so rich and exciting and gorgeous.

That trailer was good, but had me slightly worried about where Moffat was taking the Doctor.

I mean, all the trailer has him doing is punching random guys out, snogging the companion, wearing shades, beating a Dalek with a wrench, firing a gun into the air... Obviously, looking back, the idea that Moffat would turn the Doctor into an alpha-male man of action is ridiculous, but that trailer made me uneasy.
 
What's the source of your avatar please?

The Space Museum

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That trailer was good, but had me slightly worried about where Moffat was taking the Doctor.

I mean, all the trailer has him doing is punching random guys out, snogging the companion, wearing shades, beating a Dalek with a wrench, firing a gun into the air... Obviously, looking back, the idea that Moffat would turn the Doctor into an alpha-male man of action is ridiculous, but that trailer made me uneasy.

Pffft, ye of little faith. :p I never for once expected that all the punching and shooting would be genuine, which just made it all the more interesting what the context would end up being.

Of course, I didn't even know her at the time, but the wrench just shows shades of Ace in the 11th Doctor, which makes him even cooler.

(Speaking of Ace, if there's one classic companion who should really be showing up in the 50th...)
 

Slowdive

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Pffft, ye of little faith. :p I never for once expected that all the punching and shooting would be genuine, which just made it all the more interesting what the context would end up being.

Of course, I didn't even know her at the time, but the wrench just shows shades of Ace in the 11th Doctor, which makes him even cooler.

(Speaking of Ace, if there's one classic companion who should really be showing up in the 50th...)

I love Ace. Still a bit gutted she never got to be in the Sarah Jane Adventures. Would love to see her return.
 
(Speaking of Ace, if there's one classic companion who should really be showing up in the 50th...)

Winning the Time War single-handedly with a Sonic Baseball bat.

Ace fans really ought to try out the Big Finish audios. I've only listened to one (Fearmonger), but it was like she and Sly had just walked off the set of Survival.


No worries.

Always happy for an excuse to post that gif. Never fails to make me smile.
 
That trailer was good, but had me slightly worried about where Moffat was taking the Doctor.

I mean, all the trailer has him doing is punching random guys out, snogging the companion, wearing shades, beating a Dalek with a wrench, firing a gun into the air... Obviously, looking back, the idea that Moffat would turn the Doctor into an alpha-male man of action is ridiculous, but that trailer made me uneasy.

Ironically, though, that was Moffat's vision, in a sense - he said he wanted a swashbuckkling, action hero Doctor. Pirate-like costume, all that. Somebody with Tennant's energy and Pertwee's ability to punch somebody out. It was Smith's portrayal and Troughton-meets-Tennant take that pulled him back, incredibly.

(Speaking of Ace, if there's one classic companion who should really be showing up in the 50th...)

In the canon she's running a charity called ACE, heh. (Referenced in SJA by RTD - he was teeing her up to appear in the next series as that series' returning old companion ala Jo and had even spoke to the actor about it, but then Liz died.)
 
In the canon she's running a charity called ACE, heh. (Referenced in SJA by RTD - he was teeing her up to appear in the next series as that series' returning old companion ala Jo and had even spoke to the actor about it, but then Liz died.)

Awww.

Man, Liz was taken from us far too soon. She would have definitely been showing up here, for one. :(
 
Awww.

Man, Liz was taken from us far too soon. She would have definitely been showing up here, for one. :(

She looked way younger than 65 which didn't help, but 65 is still very young in this day and age. I don't know whether I'd be happier with them acknowledging the death in universe or leaving it be to be honest. The Brigadier scene was very poignant in an otherwise shite episode.
 
Whereas the Brigadier was seen living to a ripe old age (and still kicking ass at the same time), so having his death be acknowledged just felt right (and it was relevant to the plot to boot), I think it's best we're left to imagine Sarah adventuring for many years yet.
 
Poster on GB who seems reliable now (since I think he was the first to hint at the trailer coming on after strictly) says it's likely pictures from a new trailer will be released by the weekend then it will be shown on the 9th. :)

Further to this, Moffatt teases another trailer for Day of the Doctor, citing the decision to not show the trailer until now as the BBC's not his.

“If it were up to me, the BBC would only publicise Doctor Who and Sherlock. However, in their biased and wrong-headed view, they have a number of shows on before Sherlock and Doctor Who that they have to publicise now, so they’re waiting to publicise Doctor Who and Sherlock until later.

“I agree it is a crime! Who cares about those other shows? I don’t! But I have to wait in line, so the reason you haven’t see the 50th trailer yet is it’s too early to put it on. But it’s not going to be very much longer…”

Current rumours for the trailer point towards the 9th November, but we’ll have to wait for official confirmation.

This will most likely be the specially filmed trailer we saw the behind the scenes picture for some time ago;

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Also, McGann categorically states he is not in the episode once more.
For the record, I trust nothing anybody says. I'm not expecting him, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for him to be lying. A McGann -> Hurt regeneration scene for the aforementioned trailer makes way too much sense.
 
i'd be interested to see what the budget for the 50th anniversary was compared to a regular episode/season/special

According to Moffat they had about the same amount of money as a regular Christmas special, and the extra cash injection from worldwide for the cinema stuff that allowed them to squeeze an extra 15 minutes, but even that was tight.
 
According to Moffat they had about the same amount of money as a regular Christmas special, and the extra cash injection from worldwide for the cinema stuff that allowed them to squeeze an extra 15 minutes, but even that was tight.

Hmmmm, that's strange, i'm surpised that the Beeb didn't go all out and give them at least twice that amount. Doctor Who is BBC's biggest IP.
 
Hmmmm, that's strange, i'm surpised that the Beeb didn't go all out and give them at least twice that amount. Doctor Who is BBC's biggest IP.

I don't have the exact numbers available but I could find out in more detail but Eastenders (while currently suffering) is huge as is Top Gear and Dancing with the stars, Dancing on Ice etc are the real money makers.

Not to mention while not huge IP's BBC's cash injections into original content like Ripper Street, Peaky Blinders, Sherlocke etc is well worth it because that content is just incredible and pulls in a decent audience.

BBC budget concerns are always front of mind with these things.
 
Hmmmm, that's strange, i'm surpised that the Beeb didn't go all out and give them at least twice that amount. Doctor Who is BBC's biggest IP.

They will have thrown some extra money here and there at it (this trailer, for instance, is an expensive, showy endeavour for the BBC) but ultimately the way the license fee & taxpayer funding works prohibits them from giving an "unfair" cash injection to Who or any other one show because the charter means they should be using that money to make other, more niche shows. It's the beauty of the BBC and how things like Planet Earth get funded, but it can also fuck over the shows with great earnings potential with merch and stuff (Top Gear and Who in particular come to mind) as those shows don't get a funding increase that matches the increased revenue they bring in over their peers.

There's a rumour that Series 8 of Who is actually going to be produced & funded by BBC Worldwide, taking it from the traditional BBC and giving it to the profit-making side that's actually a business (who the typical BBC would in a manner of speaking pay for UK broadcast rights - how Torchwood: Children of Earth was made, but with Starz as well) but it's not clear if that's true yet. As it is right now Worldwide has funnelled some extra money to Who since around Series 4, but it going completely to Worldwide would possibly open up some extra money. Top Gear certainly got a bit more freedom out of that. There is some strange stuff going on, though. The Bells of Saint John had a Worldwide logo on it on its original UK broadcast (not sure about repeats) but then all subsequent Series 7b episodes didn't...
 
A Worldwide budget probably pays well for things like filming outside Parliament. :p

I wouldn't mind at all if the series went completely under Worldwide's care. Doctor Who needs the budget, it needs the care. It really does sound like a win/win situation for everyone involved.

...Also, isn't Julie Gardner still at Worldwide? That could be a nice connection to have...
 
They will have thrown some extra money here and there at it (this trailer, for instance, is an expensive, showy endeavour) but ultimately the way the license fee & taxpayer funding works prohibits them from giving an "unfair" cash injection to Who or any other one show for any reason, because the charter means they should be using that money to make other, more niche shows.

There's a rumour that Series 8 of Who is actually going to be produced & funded by BBC Worldwide, taking it from the traditional BBC and giving it to the profit-making side that's actually a business (who the typical BBC would in a manner of speaking pay for UK broadcast rights) but it's not clear if that's true yet. As it is right now Worldwide has funnelled some extra money to Who since around Series 4, but it going completely to Worldwide would possibly open up some extra money. Top Gear certainly got a bit more freedom out of that.

There is some stuff going on, though. The Bells of Saint John had a Worldwide logo on it on its original UK broadcast (not sure about repeats) but then all subsequent Series 7b episodes didn't...

Hmm, i think that could be a good thing, because Top Gear EXPLODED when they started being made by Worldwide. I only see good things from that happening.
 
Julie Gardner and Jane Tranter both - the woman who supported RTD and the woman who took a chance on him and commissioned Who - are at BBC Worldwide. They're basically the top two people in America. Gardner is the Executive Producer on all Worldwide projects. That said, doubt they'd have much to do with Who if it shifted - they're heading up Worldwide stuff in America specifically. Who would still be under control of UK-based folks, just in a different area of the BBC less constrained by the charter. But yeah -- switching Who to Worldwide makes sense. There's associated dangers with passing the show to a profit-driven entity, obviously, but it's a good idea in general.

The BBC already pledged just last month that there would be "exclusive episodes" (likely shorts) with Capaldi's Doctor that would debut on iPlayer first, including the new Netflix-style, subscription-driven iPlayer that's going to be launching for people outside of the UK. They also talked about Who as a series where they can potentially do early airings like what they did with BBC Three when it was starting up - Torchwood Ep 1 aired on BBC2, and then immediately afterwards Ep 2 on BBC3 - and then every week the same, so that it was a double bill spread across two channels with one channel ahead. They talked about debuting episodes first on iPlayer, and then shifting them back onto the regular channels after the fact. These are things that are easier to achieve and clear with the BBC Trust & Charter if the show is in the hands of Worldwide.

All this was just shooting the shit in press conferences and stuff, talking up their plans for the future, but Who and Top Gear were almost always mentioned in the same breath in these instances.
 
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