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Doctor Who 50th Anniversary |OT| Splendid Chap, All Of Them

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Blader

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Off-topic, but back on the subject of the exploding TARDIS, has it been "officially fanwanked" that the Great Intelligence was the cause of that? Or is this an unanswered mystery that may or may not be resolved in the next two episodes?
 
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Stuart444

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Is this kind of inconsistent with "The End of Time"?

In The End of Time,
One Timelord/lady said "The Doctor is in pocession of the moment"

But if the Doctor just (spoilers from the above post)
arrives and pushes the jewel down to trigger whatever ends the time war then he is not really in possession of anything? I was under the impression, the moment was something transportable where the Doctor could set it off away from the 'mess' aka away from any place that would get 'destroyed' by it

I might be looking too much into the words from The End of Time but that is what I had the impression of until now.
 
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Joqu

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Stuart444 said:
Is this kind of inconsistent with "The End of Time"?

In The End of Time,
One Timelord/lady said "The Doctor is in pocession of the moment"

But if the Doctor just (spoilers from the above post)
arrives and pushes the jewel down to trigger whatever ends the time war then he is not really in possession of anything? I was under the impression, the moment was something transportable where the Doctor could set it off away from the 'mess' aka away from any place that would get 'destroyed' by it

I might be looking too much into the words from The End of Time but that is what I had the impression of until now.
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He may have hidden it in that shed himself maybe? It doesn't exactly look like a Timelord shed.
 
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Stuart444 said:
Is this kind of inconsistent with "The End of Time"?

In The End of Time,
One Timelord/lady said "The Doctor is in pocession of the moment"

But if the Doctor just (spoilers from the above post)
arrives and pushes the jewel down to trigger whatever ends the time war then he is not really in possession of anything? I was under the impression, the moment was something transportable where the Doctor could set it off away from the 'mess' aka away from any place that would get 'destroyed' by it

I might be looking too much into the words from The End of Time but that is what I had the impression of until now.
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In the trailer, looks like Hurt is
carrying a bag, maybe part of it is in that?

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Is this Hurt's TARDIS, looks like Hartnell's.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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Yeah, they didn't even show a clip of him.

Kinda wish the whole thing was available on the site.

edit: Now I'm running around iTunes looking for Doctor Who podcasts. Gave Podshock a shot, but it grated on me after about 20 minutes. Listening to Radio Free Skaro right now - I think this might be more my speed.

The Blogtor Who commentaries seem interesting, too.
 
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Slowdive

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Mariolee said:
I can't handle myself. Have you read the spoilera?
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If you really want to know:

MASSIVE Christmas spoilers below. All of these apart from the last one come from a different poster than the ones before.

Some 50th and Christmas spoilers and casting information (some of this is probably known already)

The Day of the Doctor:
Peter de Jersey is playing Captain Androgar

Christmas special (currently untitled):
Sheila Reid (from Benidorm) is playing Clara's grandmother - she also played Etta in Vengeance on Varos
Orla Brady is playing Tasha Lem, a Dalek-human hybrid, like the ones in Asylum of the Daleks (eyestalks on their heads etc)
Jack Hollington is playing Barnable
Rob Jarvis is playing Abramal
Tessa Peake-Jones (Raquel from Only Fools and Horses) is playing Marta

The episode is basically the conclusion of series 6's story arc - "On the fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the Eleventh, when no living creature may speak falsely or fail to give answer, a question will be asked. A question that must never, ever be answered."

The town called Christmas is on Trenzalore, and it has a truth field
The Daleks are the main baddie of the episode, somehow getting all their knowledge back of The Doctor
Lots of recurring monsters are back; Cybermen (including one made out of wood), Sontarans, Weeping Angels and Cherubs, Silence.

We know that The Question is "Doctor Who?". We also find out why The Silence want to prevent the question being answered, and why all of The Doctor's enemies formed an Alliance in the first place - it was always going to be something big to make them all come together like that. Whether we find out the answer to the Question, I don't know, but I'd say not. But what we do find out is what happens when it is answered:

The Time Lock is broken, and the Time Lords come back, and the Time War is unleashed again. That's what Matt's era has all been about. That's what brought the universe's most feared together - they don't want to return to that.

Plus, at Christmas, the Doctor has a "pet" Cyberhead which he calls Handles. Company over the hundreds of years, I guess!
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Oh and also
the regeneration is gonna be huge apparently, so it'll probably be outside of the TARDIS. Ten's "a whisper in comparison"

Going by that Moffat quote from not so long ago about Christmas, seems like he's delivering.
 
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BobbyRoberts said:
Yeah, they didn't even show a clip of him.

Kinda wish the whole thing was available on the site.

edit: Now I'm running around iTunes looking for Doctor Who podcasts. Gave Podshock a shot, but it grated on me after about 20 minutes. Listening to Radio Free Skaro right now - I think this might be more my speed.

The Blogtor Who commentaries seem interesting, too.
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Radio Free Skaro is pretty great for a good, all rounded podcast. Decent mix of opinions etc. The Blogtor Who commentaries were hilarious and are a great way to go back and watch the past few seasons but I think they stopped last year.

I'd personally recommend The Ood Cast, who kinda do small skits based on the episode and musical parodies, and also Verity, which is relatively new, but an all female podcast, which makes a nice change of pace.
 
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8bit

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Slowdive said:
If you really want to know:

MASSIVE Christmas spoilers below. All of these apart from the last one come from a different poster than the ones before.
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I dunno, that all seems rather over the top.
Also, I don't believe it's untitled as the title will surely be attached to the film prints.
 
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BobbyRoberts said:
Yeah, they didn't even show a clip of him.

Kinda wish the whole thing was available on the site.

edit: Now I'm running around iTunes looking for Doctor Who podcasts. Gave Podshock a shot, but it grated on me after about 20 minutes. Listening to Radio Free Skaro right now - I think this might be more my speed.

The Blogtor Who commentaries seem interesting, too.
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Radio Free Skaro and The Doctor Who Podcast
 
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Blader

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Those "spoilers" sound like they fly in the face of a lot of what Moffat has already established.

So, they're probably true. :lol
 
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ibrahima

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Slowdive said:
MASSIVE Christmas spoilers below.
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Thanks for posting as I don't have a GB account but... I really don't know about all that, it sounds really fan-fictiony at points. I wouldn't be surprised if the production team were putting out a few duff spoilers.

Spoilers from above reposted below:

Dalek Human Hybrid? Get out of here.
 
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paradox121 said:
I'd personally recommend The Ood Cast, who kinda do small skits based on the episode and musical parodies, and also Verity, which is relatively new, but an all female podcast, which makes a nice change of pace.
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Thanks for these two. Gonna check out Verity once this episode of Radio Free Skaro ends.

So far as the spoilers go - remember the last big dump of spoilers regarding the 50th special? You can go back to the beginning of this thread to see how many people considered that stuff to be ridiculous and way out of bounds.

And then...
 
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Slowdive

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ibrahima said:
Thanks for posting as I don't have a GB account but... I really don't know about all that, it sounds really fan-fictiony at points. I wouldn't be surprised if the production team were putting out a few duff spoilers.

Spoilers from above reposted below:

Dalek Human Hybrid? Get out of here.
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No problem. Of course it could be a load of rubbish for all we know. But aren't you forgetting
Asylum of the Daleks? That's what they mean by human hybrids.
 
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JonathanEx

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Slowdive said:
If you really want to know:

MASSIVE Christmas spoilers below. All of these apart from the last one come from a different poster than the ones before.

...

Oh and also
the regeneration is gonna be huge apparently, so it'll probably be outside of the TARDIS. Ten's "a whisper in comparison"

Going by that Moffat quote from not so long ago about Christmas, seems like he's delivering.
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Also I read, relating to the bottom spoiler, that it's because... (more spolairz)
he's starting a new regen cycle? With Hurt and the metacrisis 10 Doctor that finishes the run and so it's like a huuuuge explosion cos it's that major
or something I think I read that on GB but am a bit all over the place right now.
 
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peanutbutterlatte

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Huh. That [CHRISTMAS SPOILERS]
bit about the Time Lords returning has been floating around for ages. I wonder if they'd do it... We know Matt's regeneration is going to usher in something big.
 
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MasterBalls said:
Huh. That [CHRISTMAS SPOILERS]
bit about the Time Lords returning has been floating around for ages. I wonder if they'd do it... We know Matt's regeneration is going to usher in something big.
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Doesn't it totally contradict
the s5 and 7 finales though? The Alliance was formed to trap the Doctor in the Pandorica, to prevent him from supposedly blowing up the TARDIS and destroying the universe. And the Silence were formed to keep the Doctor's timestream on Trenzalore from opening, giving anyone access to wipe out his history and the entire universe with it. So is Moffat throwing "and they're also all keeping the Time Lords away" on top of all that too?
This shit is too confusing :lol
 
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For my part: This sorta makes sense to me as a direction Moffat would absolutely go. It makes the show, in one swoop, both more like the one he grew up with, and more "HIS" than his predecessors.
 
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Slowdive

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The "But where on earth does it go from here?" spoiler from my other post makes me think he's going to be confined to Earth again, hopefully not for too long. Also, Daleks in the 50th, Christmas and supposedly Capaldi's first two episodes is a bit much, I think they're the first episodes Capaldi is going to film, just like Matt with Time of Angels.
 
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peanutbutterlatte

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Slowdive said:
The
"But where on earth does it go from here?" spoiler from my other post makes me think he's going to be confined to Earth again, hopefully not for too long. Also, Daleks in the 50th, Christmas and supposedly Capaldi's first two episodes is a bit much, I think they're the first episodes Capaldi is going to film, just like Matt with Time of Angels.
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Daleks are so overplayed. They're also really quite overrated. Just my opinion. I think getting confined to Earth would make sense if the Time Lords are coming back, they'd obviously want The Doctor out the way while they rebuild their Empire. But it'd be so dull.
 
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Symphonia

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Being confined to Earth while the Time Lords rebuild their empire could make for some amazing viewing. Imagining the Doctor powerless on Earth without being able to use the TARDIS - at least to it's fullest potential - would be a great way for Capaldi to make his debut. I can't see that happening, though, as wasn't it confirmed Twelfth's first outing is with the Daleks? Maybe stuck on Earth while the Daleks rebuild their empire?
 
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Cyanide Strike said:
Being confined to Earth while the Time Lords rebuild their empire could make for some amazing viewing. Imagining the Doctor powerless on Earth without being able to use the TARDIS - at least to it's fullest potential - would be a great way for Capaldi to make his debut. I can't see that happening, though, as wasn't it confirmed Twelfth's first outing is with the Daleks? Maybe stuck on Earth while the Daleks rebuild their empire?
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It may just be the first he's filming.

Also, another huge potential Christmas rumor/spoiler going around on GB:
Eleven's lost a leg in the special. Can't see it happening for 7pm viewing myself, but there you go
 
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Symphonia

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MasterBalls said:
It may just be the first he's filming.
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I didn't think of that.

Oh my god, now I'm hyped that the Christmas special and the first episode in Capaldi's season could be tied together, with S08E01 being the aftermath of whatever happens in the Christmas special - maybe Twelve recovering from his encounter with the Time Lords and working out how to 'escape' Earth?
 
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Slowdive

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Cyanide Strike said:
Being confined to Earth while the Time Lords rebuild their empire could make for some amazing viewing. Imagining the Doctor powerless on Earth without being able to use the TARDIS - at least to it's fullest potential - would be a great way for Capaldi to make his debut. I can't see that happening, though, as wasn't it confirmed Twelfth's first outing is with the Daleks? Maybe stuck on Earth while the Daleks rebuild their empire?
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It would be interesting, perhaps a good time for RTD to come back and write an episode. But like I said above, 4 dalek episodes in a row? Would they really do that? The amount of time off screen will be almost a year so maybe, but I doubt it. I think the dalek 2 parter is just what he's going to film first.
 
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Slowdive

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MasterBalls said:
It may just be the first he's filming.

Also, another huge potential Christmas rumor/spoiler going around on GB:
Eleven's lost a leg in the special. Can't see it happening for 7pm viewing myself, but there you go
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Ten lost a hand! Yeah it grew back straight away, but still. Also, we'd have come full circle, Eleven's first words, "Legs! I've still got legs."

About the daleks, I love them so I wouldn't even mind them coming back so soon in series 8, I just hope they make them really threatening again, like in series 1. It's likely the 50th will do this but I mean in general.
 
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Regarding Capaldi and rumours of certain enemies "first", it'll be "first filmed" and not "first written", most likely. Smith first faced off against the Weeping Angels, he filmed The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone first and together. They've pretty much always filmed the first two-parter first - Eccleston filmed opposite the Slitheen first (poor bastard), outside of Christmas Invasion & his regeneration Cybermen was the first thing Tennant filmed, etc.

Regarding the Christmas rumour:
If the reason for the alliance is because the combined races don't want The Time Lords to come back and bring the war with them I'll be a bit bummed out, to be honest. It's literally a mash-up of the concepts that drive The End of Time & The Pandorica Opens. Well trodden ground. Also, never bring the Time Lords back, because they're crap and they weaken the Doctor. I don't think Moffat will, mind, he's been outspoken about disliking them enough in the past, mercifully.
 
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APZonerunner said:
Regarding the Christmas rumour:
If the reason for the alliance is because the combined races don't want The Time Lords to come back and bring the war with them I'll be a bit bummed out, to be honest. It's literally a mash-up of the concepts that drive The End of Time & The Pandorica Opens. Well trodden ground. Also, never bring the Time Lords back, because they're crap and they weaken the Doctor. I don't think Moffat will, mind, he's been outspoken about disliking them enough in the past, mercifully.
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Yeah that's why it's huuuuge pinch of salt for me. The Time Lords seem to me the living embodiment of the "No Fun Allowed Robot" meme. They'd regulate and restrict all The Doctor's running around and being impulsive and impressive, and that'd suck.
 
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While you're wondering what the theme song for the Special might sound like, how about this take on the tune by its composer, Ron Grainier.

http://t.co/hQaNHfkgqS

This apparently represents his first crack at arranging it the way he wanted. It sounds like a '70s game show hosted by Wink Martindale.

It's kind of amazing.
 
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BobbyRoberts said:
While you're wondering what the theme song for the Special might sound like, how about this take on the tune by its composer, Ron Grainier.

http://t.co/hQaNHfkgqS

This apparently represents his first crack at arranging it the way he wanted. It sounds like a '70s game show hosted by Wink Martindale.

It's kind of amazing.
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This is great. It reminds me of the mental Roger Moore era renditions of the Bond theme.
 
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