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[Bobby Roberts]

"Where are we going!?"
"Back of the ship"
"WHY?"
"Because the front crashes first, think it through."

 

[Hot Coldman]

BBC Worldwide funded 8th Doctor miniseries for Netflix pls.

 

[aHebrewMenagerie]

Anyone watched The Science of Doctor Who?

I have such a man crush on Brian Cox.

I found it pretty interesting. Wish there were more scenes between Brian and The Doctor. The lecture itself was very interesting, as I've always been a fan of theoretical physics, and it being tied with Doctor Who was fun.

 

[Jintor]

Anyone watched The Science of Doctor Who?

I have such a man crush on Brian Cox.

Who doesn't? Need more Infinite Monkey Cage asap. Then a double team with Neil Degrasse Tyson.

 

[Dryk]

I don't know, McGann's regeneration effects reminded me of the ones of the classic series. It bridged the two quite well I think.

Agreed. I though it was the perfect mix of the old #DEAD regenerations and the new sparky-whoosh regenerations

 

[Ashodin]

fuck I want a series with McGann now. That shit was amazing.

"I'm the doctor. But probably not the one you were expecting"

SO GOOD

 

[Savitar]

McGann definitely deserves more.

 

[Box of Bunnies]

Then a double team with Neil Degrasse Tyson.

Oh my.

 

[Ashodin]

Get out, GET OUT!

chills

 

[Mudcrab]

Get out, GET OUT!

chills

McGann's yells are SO good.

 

[Fred Norris]

BBC Worldwide funded 8th Doctor miniseries for Netflix pls.

 

[Avixph]

I have a question:

Spoiler

How did Rose get her Bad Wolf Powers back or did she never loose them?

 

[odiin]

It's insane to me how much McGann was able to do with these seven short minutes. It honestly felt more substantial than a lot of episodes from the show proper (certainly more than anything from series 7, at least.)

One thing I've really loved about this anniversary year is the massive pushback on something that had been previously taken as an undeniable truth: That the Doctor was now only a young man's role. This year we will have seen the 73 year old John Hurt as the War Doctor, the 55 year old Capaldi, 71 year old David Bradley palying William Hartnell and Paul fucking McGann FINALLY reprising his role as the 8th Doctor 17 years later at 54 years old.

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

I have a question:

Spoiler

How did Rose get her Bad Wolf Powers back or did she never loose them?

My guess would be that the events of the 50th are happening at different times for each individual. For Hurt, it's still the Time War. For 10ant, it's right before The End of Time. For Rose, it probably takes place during The Parting of the Ways and she's projecting herself through time and space.

There is an obvious way to tie this all together neatly. After Rose has finished helping the three Doctors, have Hurt regenerate into Eccelston, who then goes off to find Rose and set everything in motion. Remember a lot of what Rose was doing as Bad Wolf was ensuring that she would become the Bad Wolf in the first place. What if she was the impetus behind all of New Who to begin with? Their meeting in Series 1 wasn't an accident--he was looking for her.

 

[plagiarize]

What an amazing surprise.

My eyes are still a bit misty. The eighth Doctor! Back with us for just a few minutes, but I never thought I'd see him on camera again.

What an amazing surprise

 

[aHebrewMenagerie]

I still can't believe how amazing this was. Moffat, I hereby forgive for the travesties that were The Wedding of River Song and The Doctor, The Widow, and The Wardrobe.

 

[Quick Mustard]

I still dont think its sunk in yet.

Weird to say, I know, but after all these years, rumours of apperances, missed opportunities, all this time, we finally have closure on his Regeneration and he was seen as The Doctor again.

It's amazing to be a fan of this show right now, I dont think we'll see it bigger than this over the next two months or so, not for a few years.

To think people were (myself included) were complaining that not much has happened after being told the BBC would take over Television and now look what we've got:

BBC Idents
Radio Interuptions
Two Trailers
Special shows showing different parts of the universe
A Docu-Drama
The Celebration Event over next weekend (That I cannot wait to attend)
The special 50th Big Finish drama
Two Minisodes, one with Paul McGann! And the other we dont know for sure yet.
and the Big episode itself, The Day of The Doctor thats being shown in over 70 countries, around the world, at the same time, on TV and in the cinema in 3D.

No other show can state its done all of that, and I dont think we'll ever get another show to rival it in terms of what its doing.

Probably some other things I've forgotten, but its such an amazing time to be a fan of it all.

 

[paradox121]

^The Science of Doctor Who! (seriously, go watch it, the stuff on time travel and black holes is fascinating)

But I totally agree. These last few weeks it's totally hit me how 'everywhere' the show is. I mean, take a step back a second and consider the fact that an episode of Doctor Who is being simulcast not only around the world but also in hundreds of cinemas. That's mind boggling for a show that was off the air not ten years ago.

 

[Avixph]

My guess would be that the events of the 50th are happening at different times for each individual. For Hurt, it's still the Time War. For 10ant, it's right before The End of Time. For Rose, it probably takes place during The Parting of the Ways and she's projecting herself through time and space.

There is an obvious way to tie this all together neatly. After Rose has finished helping the three Doctors, have Hurt regenerate into Eccelston, who then goes off to find Rose and set everything in motion. Remember a lot of what Rose was doing as Bad Wolf was ensuring that she would become the Bad Wolf in the first place. What if she was the impetus behind all of New Who to begin with? Their meeting in Series 1 wasn't an accident--he was looking for her.

Oh my you could be right, I never saw like that.

 

[Ashodin]

My guess would be that the events of the 50th are happening at different times for each individual. For Hurt, it's still the Time War. For 10ant, it's right before The End of Time. For Rose, it probably takes place during The Parting of the Ways and she's projecting herself through time and space.

There is an obvious way to tie this all together neatly. After Rose has finished helping the three Doctors, have Hurt regenerate into Eccelston, who then goes off to find Rose and set everything in motion. Remember a lot of what Rose was doing as Bad Wolf was ensuring that she would become the Bad Wolf in the first place. What if she was the impetus behind all of New Who to begin with? Their meeting in Series 1 wasn't an accident--he was looking for her.

I like you.

 

[googleplex]

I would seriously love a short series with this Doctor.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

I still dont think its sunk in yet.

Weird to say, I know, but after all these years, rumours of apperances, missed opportunities, all this time, we finally have closure on his Regeneration and he was seen as The Doctor again.

It's amazing to be a fan of this show right now, I dont think we'll see it bigger than this over the next two months or so, not for a few years.

To think people were (myself included) were complaining that not much has happened after being told the BBC would take over Television and now look what we've got:

BBC Idents
Radio Interuptions
Two Trailers
Special shows showing different parts of the universe
A Docu-Drama
The Celebration Event over next weekend (That I cannot wait to attend)
The special 50th Big Finish drama
Two Minisodes, one with Paul McGann! And the other we dont know for sure yet.
and the Big episode itself, The Day of The Doctor thats being shown in over 70 countries, around the world, at the same time, on TV and in the cinema in 3D.

No other show can state its done all of that, and I dont think we'll ever get another show to rival it in terms of what its doing.

Probably some other things I've forgotten, but its such an amazing time to be a fan of it all.

Funny, because the majority of european countries arent getting it. Its easy to up the count with the large amount of third world countries, who knows why are getting it, on the list though.

 

[Blader]

To think people were (myself included) were complaining that not much has happened after being told the BBC would take over Television and now look what we've got:

BBC Idents
Radio Interuptions
Two Trailers
Special shows showing different parts of the universe
A Docu-Drama
The Celebration Event over next weekend (That I cannot wait to attend)
The special 50th Big Finish drama
Two Minisodes, one with Paul McGann! And the other we dont know for sure yet.
and the Big episode itself, The Day of The Doctor thats being shown in over 70 countries, around the world, at the same time, on TV and in the cinema in 3D.

Plus the discovery/restoration of some of the older serials.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

My guess would be that the events of the 50th are happening at different times for each individual. For Hurt, it's still the Time War. For 10ant, it's right before The End of Time. For Rose, it probably takes place during The Parting of the Ways and she's projecting herself through time and space.

There is an obvious way to tie this all together neatly. After Rose has finished helping the three Doctors, have Hurt regenerate into Eccelston, who then goes off to find Rose and set everything in motion. Remember a lot of what Rose was doing as Bad Wolf was ensuring that she would become the Bad Wolf in the first place. What if she was the impetus behind all of New Who to begin with? Their meeting in Series 1 wasn't an accident--he was looking for her.

This makes complete sense and will be completely frustrating when it inevitably doesn't happen. Damn you to hell Ignis.

 

[bengraven]

That was great. Too damn short.

So what happened with him...he actually died? And they brought him back? Why didn't he regenerate in the wreckage? Or when they said they controlled his regeneration did they mean "not just who he regenerated into" but "when he was allowed to"?

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

That was great. Too damn short.

So what happened with him...he actually died? And they brought him back? Why didn't he regenerate in the wreckage? Or when they said they controlled his regeneration did they mean "not just who he regenerated into" but "when he was allowed to"?

He probably would have naturally died and regenerated (or maybe not if the crash was severe enough, would have burnt out with no time to regenerate like "Turn Left" 10), but the soothsayers foresaw he was the one to end the Time War and kept him alive/pre-regeneration for this purpose, specifically turning him into The Warrior.

 

[Bluth54]

That was great. Too damn short.

So what happened with him...he actually died? And they brought him back? Why didn't he regenerate in the wreckage? Or when they said they controlled his regeneration did they mean "not just who he regenerated into" but "when he was allowed to"?

Yeah he died. If a timelord dies too quickly they can't start the regeneration process. We saw that in Turn Left when the 10th Doctor drowned before he could regenerate.

 

[Box of Bunnies]

So what happened with him...he actually died? And they brought him back? Why didn't he regenerate in the wreckage?

He actually died died, yes. You don't regenerate from that, only near death.

They temporarily revived him and triggered the regeneration process, bringing him back properly.

 

[APZonerunner]

That was great. Too damn short.

So what happened with him...he actually died? And they brought him back? Why didn't he regenerate in the wreckage? Or when they said they controlled his regeneration did they mean "not just who he regenerated into" but "when he was allowed to"?

This has already been addressed above, but RTD's rather crass old example is still the best one - if he's killed instantly, he's dead. If he gets shot in the head, that's it, game over. We now actually have an example of that, I suppose, in The Impossible Astronaut. Even if faked.

That's also why when he gets shot by the Dalek in The Stolen Earth it's a glancing shot, as a dead-on shot would've killed him dead.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

"Keepers of the Flame of Utter Boredom" sums up the majority of Time Lord stuff pre-2005 so I found that perfectly in keeping with tradition.

I wouldn't be normally either, but if you look at it from the angle that by that point the Time Lords had to have created some way of ensuring they had warriors to fight their wars, and that they didn't just regenerate into a load of Slyvester McCoys, it kinda makes a bit more sense. Though generally regenerations at this point have so many inconsistencies and differences and uses I'm kinda done caring.

Sure, I just.. wish it more him and less the potion? I liked one of the above suggestions of it being born of a regular regeneration where he just couldn't take the time war any more.
I think I'll end up feeling better about it when I see more of Hurt and reconcile him as a Doctor.

 

[Slime]

I would seriously love a short series with this Doctor.

Seriously. A miniseries, at least. BBC loves those!

Sure, I just.. wish it more him and less the potion? I liked one of the above suggestions of it being born of a regular regeneration where he just couldn't take the time war any more.
I think I'll end up feeling better about it when I see more of Hurt and reconcile him as a Doctor.

I'll be honest: I'm somewhat disappointed, because I thought Hurt's "Doctor" would be an aged and battle-hardened version of McGann's, who has stopped being the Doctor by way of his choices and actions. Still pleased to see the Sisterhood again, but wish the story was a little more...textured?

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Petitions never did nothin' for nobody, but I'd sign a McGann miniseries petition. Just sayin'.

 

[APZonerunner]

Sure, I just.. wish it more him and less the potion? I liked one of the above suggestions of it being born of a regular regeneration where he just couldn't take the time war any more.
I think I'll end up feeling better about it when I see more of Hurt and reconcile him as a Doctor.

The potion is very much in keeping with who the Sisterhood is, though, and they were established in an episode nearly 40 years ago. It's dripping in continuity in a sense, as the fourth Doctor meets the sisterhood in that 1976 story, but then there's also an Eighth Doctor Big Finish story where he visits there (and we can now assume ALL his Big Finish adventures canonized fully, in a sense, thanks to the companion namecheck - including Lucie, who was his companion in that story)... Moffat went deeper than I'd ever have imagined.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Yea give me 3 hour long episodes leading up to the event of night of the doctor with mcgann please.

 

[Monado Blade]

He only knew them during the very beginning of his life, and Chang Lee set out to murder him most of the time. There is some debate as to whether or not Grace was a companion too, because she only had that one appearance.

It also might be due to Fox actually owning all original characters from the TV Movie. The actors that played Grace and Chang actually appeared in some Big Finish stories, but not as their 8th Doctor movie characters. I don't think the actor for Chang is even in an 8th Doctor story.

Fox owns them. That's why they can never use them, even if they wanted to, not even a passing clip in a flashback. That's also why there's been no Big Finish adventures with them. Fox owns all the stuff from the movie that didn't already exist in Who, basically.

Oh - this was amazing, by the way. It's so sad we'll never get more McGann properly, but at least he is legitimized in a new way now!

Well, that explains it. Such a shame they're basically written out of canon simply because of an issue of rights. Ah well, to be fair they weren't the greatest of companions and Chang Lee especially was kind of grating.

 

[Blader]

I'll be honest: I'm somewhat disappointed, because I thought Hurt's "Doctor" would be an aged and battle-hardened version of McGann's, who has stopped being the Doctor by way of his choices and actions. Still pleased to see the Sisterhood again, but wish the story was a little more...textured?

That's still basically what happens though. It's not a gradual process, but it's still the Doctor choosing to stop being a doctor and start being a warrior. I think it's a nice way of showing that the Doctor could never be dragged into the Time War like that unless he literally became another person, without abdicating him of any of the responsibility at the same time.

sure, it's rushed and not particularly nuanced, but it's a 6 minute piece of fanwank. It's just for fun.

 

[bengraven]

Tennant and Smith really really wanted to keep going on as Doctors, doing another series.

I swear after watching this the three of them could have a spinoff of their own.

He probably would have naturally died and regenerated (or maybe not if the crash was severe enough, would have burnt out with no time to regenerate like "Turn Left" 10), but the soothsayers foresaw he was the one to end the Time War and kept him alive/pre-regeneration for this purpose, specifically turning him into The Warrior.

Yeah he died. If a timelord dies too quickly they can't start the regeneration process. We saw that in Turn Left when the 10th Doctor drowned before he could regenerate.

He actually died died, yes. You don't regenerate from that, only near death.

They temporarily revived him and triggered the regeneration process, bringing him back properly.

This has already been addressed above, but RTD's rather crass old example is still the best one - if he's killed instantly, he's dead. If he gets shot in the head, that's it, game over. We now actually have an example of that, I suppose, in The Impossible Astronaut. Even if faked.

That's also why when he gets shot by the Dalek in The Stolen Earth it's a glancing shot, as a dead-on shot would've killed him dead.

Thank's you guys.

 

[Dryk]

Sure, I just.. wish it more him and less the potion? I liked one of the above suggestions of it being born of a regular regeneration where he just couldn't take the time war any more.
I think I'll end up feeling better about it when I see more of Hurt and reconcile him as a Doctor.

I like it this way. He basically has to be badgered into agreeing to it and he seems like he'll decide not to at any second. If it was a regular regeneration I don't think he'd be able to go through with it.

 

[odiin]

Here's an interesting bit of trivia I just realized: Even if you don't count the War Doctor, by the time Christmas roles around Stephen Moffat will have written for more Doctors than anyone in the series history. 5,8,9,10,11,12 and War. I'd have to check but I believe Terrance Dicks and Robert Holmes are tied for second with Dicks writing for 1(even though it wasn't the REAL 1)2,3,4 and 5 and Holmes doing 2,3,4,5 and 6. It's probably going to be very difficult for anyone to beat Moffat's record.

 

[infiniteloop]

Moffat's really put his stamp on Who for better or worse.

New costume + regeneration for 8
Created War Doctor + Likely regeneration into 9
Created 11 + regeneration
Created 12.

 

[Trike]

I just noticed while going through my DVR that BBCA will be airing two new(?) specials. Not sure if it is new or just new to America.

Doctor Who: Tales from the TARDIS – 9:00 –10:00pm ET

An all-new special, Doctor Who: Tales from the TARDIS, features the series’ actors and producers sharing their experiences and memories of the world’s longest-running sci-fi show. The special features exclusive interviews with principal cast members from the show’s 50-year history, including actors who have played the Doctor: Matt Smith, David Tennant, Tom Baker, and Peter Davison, actors who have played companions: Jenna Coleman, Karen Gillan, Freema Agyeman, and William Russell, as well as the current lead writer and executive producer Steven Moffat. The discussion includes how the actors got cast, how the roles changed their lives, how a ‘regeneration’ is recorded, and how filming the show in the 60′s compares to today.

Doctor Who Explained – 8:00pm – 9:00pm ET

An all-new special, Doctor Who Explained, explores the mysterious and two-hearted alien who is the Doctor. Through exclusive interviews with principal cast members from the show’s 50-year history, including actors who have played the Doctor: Matt Smith, David Tennant, Peter Davison, and Tom Baker as well as actors who have played companions: Jenna Coleman, Karen Gillan, and Freema Agyeman, viewers get an insight to what happens behind-the-scenes of the award-winning sci-fi show.

Also starting on the 19th they will be having a marathon of all of the 9th-11th Doctor episodes/specials. Only interrupted by the new specials for the 50th.

 

[Zen]

McGann in full costume:



Courtesy of the DW Tumblr.

Looks like even existing on the periphery of the time war took a lot out of him, and just look at how worn down 'War Doctor' became.

 

[teeny]

Right, that's it, time to dig in to some Big Finish. I figured I would just start from the beginning of the Eighth's adventures. Sound like a plan, or is there stuff I should skip?

I really don't know why I didn't start on old Who before

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Right, that's it, time to dig in to some Big Finish. I figured I would just start from the beginning of the Eighth's adventures. Sound like a plan, or is there stuff I should skip?

I really don't know why I didn't start on old Who before

I don't think there's much in McGann's Big Finish run that's skip-worthy. Some are better than others, obviously, but most of his stuff is pretty good.

However, for me, I'd say doing the full "Eighth Doctor Adventures" and sliding into "Dark Eyes" is the best listening experience. Although I believe there's a couple main Big Finish titles that AREN'T technically part of the "Eighth Doctor Adventures" that tie into the 3rd & 4th seasons, specifically regarding Susan. Those need to be listened to.

 

[Box of Bunnies]

Right, that's it, time to dig in to some Big Finish. I figured I would just start from the beginning of the Eighth's adventures. Sound like a plan, or is there stuff I should skip?

I really don't know why I didn't start on old Who before

The Eighth Doctor Adventures line is styled more after the new show in terms of being single, 40-ish minute stories (with the occasional two parters) gathered into seasons compared to the main Doctor Who monthly range which is more like the classic series with stories broken into parts with cliffhangers. The EDAs are more or less designed as a jumping-on point for new fans. I haven't actually heard any EDAs but my understanding is that you mostly just listen to all of them.

In terms of Eighth Doctor stories in the monthly range, Minuet in Hell is pretty much the big one you want to avoid, while Chimes of Midnight is well regarded.

 

[Boem]

Watched the McGann short again today. Man, being a Who-fan can be so rewarding sometimes. There's a part of me that really wants more on-screen McGann adventures, but the fact that we got anything at all is still pretty amazing to me. I was a bit down on the plans for the anniversary earlier in the year, but looking at everything we've gotten so far (including the Big Finish-stuff) and the stuff that's still coming up is making me very excited.

I'm so happy for McGann too - he always seemed to genuinely like the character, so I'm pretty happy about him finally having a good televised (sort of) adventure, even if it is a little short. It's great that he got such an important part of the storyline as well. This is exactly how I want other possible returning Doctors to be treated - not just for a quick gag, but as a proper part of the story.

And now I'm off to watch The Brain of Morbius again. Best show ever.

 

[liquidtmd]

I'll join this love in - seriously, SERIOUSLY great. It felt like how Doctor Who truly should be in my eyes.

S5 - S7 have been all over the place in terms of quality and theres been some absolutely insipid, banal choices from Moffs direction but credit where its due - very nice seven minutes.

 

[Exterminieren]

Here's an interesting bit of trivia I just realized: Even if you don't count the War Doctor, by the time Christmas roles around Stephen Moffat will have written for more Doctors than anyone in the series history. 5,8,9,10,11,12 and War. I'd have to check but I believe Terrance Dicks and Robert Holmes are tied for second with Dicks writing for 1(even though it wasn't the REAL 1)2,3,4 and 5 and Holmes doing 2,3,4,5 and 6. It's probably going to be very difficult for anyone to beat Moffat's record.

Ah, but what about Dicks' novelisations and novels? I'm pretty sure it's just 9 and 11 that he hasn't written for in some fashion (and Hurt, obviously).

 

[Quick Mustard]

My Doctor Who Celebration T Shirt's arrived today!

Front:

Back:

Shame the list on the back is technically incorrect now, lol

 

[Ein Bear]

Can't even describe how happy I was to see McGann again, listening to the audios was what got me into Who in the first place.

8 really is the best Doctor. None of this 'I don't want to go ' nonsense, McGann just grabs himself a goblet and goes out like a boss.