plus iron talon makes farming more efficient in general
the one thing is that midas is so useless now between blink, iron talon, and battlefury that shit is a waste
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plus iron talon makes farming more efficient in general
the one thing is that midas is so useless now between blink, iron talon, and battlefury that shit is a waste
Brawndo Addict
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I don't even play Dota anymore and I was angry when I saw this, I literally exclaimed when I read it.
lucebuce12
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This patch. It's all I've ever dreamed of
Maybe its intentional? Too obvious to get overlooked.
How much x150 gold are your supports willing to spend to do this for every creepwave that comes? It only lasts 20 secs
yeah I'm actually curious to see how it really plays out during a game. that's a lot of gold to spend per wave for what it gets you
NaDannMaGoGo
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Phoenix got some small buffs, so that's nice. Don't want him to ever get god tier and go the way of Jugger.
Also that turn rate on laser was seriously dreadful. The spell is cumbersome enough.
Also that turn rate on laser was seriously dreadful. The spell is cumbersome enough.
How is Void's new ability not OP? Adding 9 seconds to the cooldown of every ability on every hero it hits? That seems sillypants. Am I misinterpreting? I bet I'm misinterpreting.
Any images of the new map out there yet?
Any images of the new map out there yet?
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He lost backtrack and he jumps like 2 ft now.
Midas is still good, just more generally catered for ranged heroes.
Sums up my thoughts pretty well. Tired of gold for crow, wards, and boots being dropped what feels like every patch. Tired of Aghs upgrades that change non-ulti skills. Tired of damage amp and cooldown reductions, that last part feels like League/"change for the sake of being similar to other games" like Halo and others to me.
Still will play now and then I guess, but genuinely only like the "lmao", iron branch, and them finally adding Arc Warden. Maybe we'll have parity by Summer.
Edit: Can't believe they cut LVL? Death out.
NaDannMaGoGo
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Those Pudge buffs and the increased spell range item though...
With Aghs and Octarine Core he'll have a god damn 3s hook cooldown -______________-
#1 upcoming pub cancer
With Aghs and Octarine Core he'll have a god damn 3s hook cooldown -______________-
#1 upcoming pub cancer
misses bull
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Pudge meta here we come
NinjaBoyLao
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Skywrath mage with an early Arcane rune is one of the worst thing this patch has ever created.
NaDannMaGoGo
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The Sandking Aghs Scepter update is a major buff imo. Double range on Burrowstrike and it applying caustic finale to all heroes hit is much better than some additional damage on his ulti.
ODpixel is showing it on the test client
Gentle Rodriguez
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It only adds those seconds to abilities that were on CD at the moment he casts it, it's not that insane. I like it though, so unique.
yeah, it's basically just a silence for those abilities already cast recently. I wonder how it interacts with refresher? will they refresh?
Yeah, I don't get why people would complain about changes that make it more feasible and tempting for supports to buy the items they need to make for more interesting matches, and for carries to not divert their core items as much when supports are being greedy and not buying them. Having too many of these items is impossible with the timers attached to them, and it means there's less of an excuse to not buy them.
You could argue that this means supports get their items faster which speeds up the game, but I don't think it'll make that big a difference in that regard. Low-skill supports will buy more support items instead of acting greedily now (we can only hope!) or continue not buying them, which won't change their meta. Higher-skill supports can use the extra gold to reinvest in more support items, and yeah, they'll probably get their items faster. But these changes amount to what, 200 gold for game max?
The only place this will speed things up is in pro games, and supports there tend to be dirt-poor anyway.
Gentle Rodriguez
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I'm not gonna watch any footage until I get to see the map myself, should be fun.
misses bull
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Or, they play support and enjoy the early game and doing the most they can without getting #items for free every 5 seconds, thanks to gold buffs to make everything cheaper for 5 patches now.
But hey, maybe I just don't play support.
sleverfunk
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Holy hell the ward vision of new radiant jungle cliff is huge.
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Deleted member 77995
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I need purge and merlini patch analysis
doesn't seem like something core venge would want and support venge isn't farming that anyway
most of the new aghs upgrades seem like shit
The Technomancer
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Oh shit oh shit didn't expect this, sweet action
can you stack battlefury on top of that too?
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a lategame position 5 vs is still gonna get 2shotted by any carry, especially if taking bonus damage. I can imagine there will be a few scenarios where enabling her to cast out a single spell can influence a fight but I don't imagine too many vs players will be donating 4k gold over other items. Agh scepter additions tend to make games like all-random deathmatch more interesting and that's it.
The Technomancer
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Are the map changes documented visually anywhere yet?
sleverfunk
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This just went up. The radiant jungle is fucking nuts now.
Also, Aether Lens + Aghs SK should be fun. Like a 2k range stun.
The Technomancer
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WHOOOOOOAH GAME CHANGER
So this is the new "fuck your antimage" ability?
Sgt.Pepper
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Isn't Aether Lens only for projectile based spells? IDK, has someone tried it?
The Technomancer
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All of these Aghs changes are nuts. Tidehunter gets gush as an ice shards style projectile?
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