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Dota 2 |OT7| What the fuck have they done
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I may just end up selling my Gravelmaw at a $50-$60 loss on steam market. II almost had a deal yesterday from dota2lounge trading it with a guy for two dragonclaw hooks. He wanted me to get a friend as a middle man and asked if my stuff was safe. He told me to give my friend the gravelmaw and my DC hook, then my friend tried to trade him and the guy was trade banned. I told him "nice trade ban, fuck off" and blocked him.
I'm glad it didn't proceed any further, but if it did I would have stopped it. It would have probably been "trade both things to my middle man, K BYE THX 4 ITEMS!"
sleverfunk
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Ok I think crimson guard is legit.
Well it's a good thing:
-total tower bounties got reduced by around 50%
-Shaman, Razor, DP, and Lycan were all nerfed
-Mek was nerfed
-Teams were given 3 free glyphs
-tier 2 towers were buffed
And like kirby said, if you're ahead, you're still getting less xp and gold than you did before (in 6.81). Also, the xp comeback is still pretty damn significant compared to 6.81. If deathball is still an issue, the problem heroes will be addressed as always.
DP first pick all day everyday.
I wanna apologise to Kag and his 40 bros as well as gd for my Clankz.
God why is he so shit!?
I went MOM, Skadi on Clinks in a inhouse, never again. Orchid is core.
6.83, double helix becomes an active ability costing 25 mana with 1 second cooldown.
Really, the big thing now is that heroes and items are going to need a lot of tweaking in the coming months to adjust for the fact that its harder to keep a gold lead. Meepo, Doom, Alch, and Bounty Hunter all took a huge hit since part of their heroes revolved around getting a lead in gold/xp.
Wish the star ladder casters would click on the fight recap button more, would really like to how much gold changed hands after these fights.
edit: I have a horrible idea.
- Meepo: Now has a max level of 30.
Wish the star ladder casters would click on the fight recap button more, would really like to how much gold changed hands after these fights.
edit: I have a horrible idea.
- Meepo: Now has a max level of 30.
In retrospective I think the true pocket strat at ti4 was picking dp. Pretty much everyone expected skywrath and void to be picked up. Dp was picked a few times, but I think the only team that was constant in picking her was Newbee.
Also I might be missing some information but I find it pretty funny it took almost a year after 6.79 for people to realise Dp was not just a pubstomper and was competitively legit and all she got between that and 6.81 was a nerf to her ult cd.
Come to think of it, what were picks or builds that pros popularized? Not talking about stuff that was already popular beforehand like blademail + null np. All I can think of is Void offlane.
Also I might be missing some information but I find it pretty funny it took almost a year after 6.79 for people to realise Dp was not just a pubstomper and was competitively legit and all she got between that and 6.81 was a nerf to her ult cd.
Come to think of it, what were picks or builds that pros popularized? Not talking about stuff that was already popular beforehand like blademail + null np. All I can think of is Void offlane.
Sgt.Pepper
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it wasn't a serious post. Poking fun at the jumping to conclusion posts in Reddit.
I just hate reddit whining from both sides. Pros were(still?) equally whining.
H4anni left Fnatic?
RIP Fnatic
Jerax is playing as a standin for them.
For a second I got excited for earth spirit, then I remembered it was cm.
Heavy's Sandvich
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I don't mean to be alarmist and I will probably be proven wrong.
Just feels like competitive Dota has lost a lot of its shine.
Just feels like competitive Dota has lost a lot of its shine.
Gentle Rodriguez
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I feel the same, but mostly because of the teams switching it up. I'll get over it eventually, but I miss Alliance
Fairweather fans, only interested in comp dota when it shines
or something like that
but i think hanni is gone for good based on his tweet
https://twitter.com/KaiH4nn1/status/516350876433526784
Steam doesn't unlock it until noon tomorrow in my timezone
SO MAD
Spectre's always been a monster who simply had to find farm. Gold swings and buffed dagger make it easier to find gold and keep it. And omni's always been good in my eyes but helping people to not die prevents gold swings from turning in the enemy's favor.
Of course, this could all be logic based on circumstantial evidence (i.e., these characters are good now so let's use hindsight to highlight why that might be)
What exactly put Spectre up there though? Not too much was changed on her.
rakkadakka
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Double rune thing almost makes a bottle mandatory on at least two players.
Control the map and get sustain.
Beat Ember for all-hero.. He's fun but probably has the worst hit sound in the game
Side note.. Tusk + Jakiro is a murderous teamfight combo.
Control the map and get sustain.
Beat Ember for all-hero.. He's fun but probably has the worst hit sound in the game
Side note.. Tusk + Jakiro is a murderous teamfight combo.
Probably just all of the nerfs to the top tier heroes on top of the nerfs to deathball/push. Slowing down the game with free glyphs, the increased cost on mek, etc... it all benefits her as one of the hardest carries in the game, if not arguably the hardest. On top of that, she's very strong early and in the mid-game (unlike say, Medusa). Dota changes in mysterious ways when there are a lot of changes, indirect buffs/nerfs all around that people don't really expect.
SteveWinwood
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anbokr its k we still <3 u
great now i feel like a scumbag picking them in the giant bomb thing
I guess it must simply be the systematic nerf to death ball. Spectre is a great late game hero, but she has to be the shitest melee hard carry in the early game. Spectre did fall 2% with the last change to the gold though.
It's all I ask
I don't know man, laning stage? Yeah, probably. But after the laning stage, near the end of the early game when she picks up phase ---> drums or vanguard, she becomes a monster in her own right (if skilled properly). This allows her to pretty much afk farm and still clean up fights with her ulti to quickly snowball into her radiance.
its not fair...hoping for a surprise midnight launch
Good thing ganking strats are more viable than ever with the new changes. Oh wait they get even less gold when they're ahead and they can't take objectives nearly as well.
Good thing deathball requires only a certain five heroes. O wait it doesn't, looks like you'll have to nerf 20% of the hero pool. Good thing mek was nerfed, oh wait crimson guard is in the game now
Yo I know you think deathball is back for good, but I mean, like you said at the beginning of this patch, just give it some time, and let's wait and see. The fnatic vs kpg game that was just played isn't really the shining example of competitive dota, but there wasn't any deathball to be found with storm and qop running around, constant fights, and a pretty close game until the end.
Let's see how things shake up at ESL and the like. If you're proven correct and deathball is still prevalent, it will be nerfed again.
assuming my internet connection isn't total ass I might even stream it on twitch.
Schweinehund
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Balancing is a hard issue, I'd rather icefraud focus on heroes now for the next few patches then touching anything in general. Tweak stuff like lone druid's demolish until it sits comfortable, right now any pushers that were rarely picked last patch are pretty much dead in the water.
Glyph extended by 4 secs
All towers get +10 armor
EVERY time a tower falls glyph refreshes
I like those, specially the last one.
- added steps after every tower for stacking highground
- changed team size to 4
- mirrored map in 4 directions
- goal of the game is now to capture the ziggurat
Gentle Rodriguez
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6.82c
-towers now deal 1000 damage with a 4.0 BAT
6.83
-towers renamed to tanks
6.84
-tower models updated, now look like tanks
-dota2 setting is now call of duty
6.85
-glyph has been changed to "nuclear bomb": 5 min CD, after a 2s delay, deal 99,999 damage to all heroes (allied and enemy) within 2000 radius of the selected tower, for 5 minutes after nuclear bomb, the area around the tower will deal 100 damage per second to all heroes, allied and enemy.
Dreams-Visions
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JUST LOOK AT IT.
Fnatic enjoying the rubberband.
Fnatic enjoying the rubberband.
Fucking zyori still blaming a great fnatic comeback where they won 3-4 fights in a row on the "rubberband." These casters need to fucking stop, winning big fights back to back to back to back and forcing buybacks from the enemy cores would have won you games in past patches as well.
Worst caster in the scene
Would rather have a fart machine randomly farting than listen to a Zyori cast
Kotlguy is just as bad with his soundboard
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