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Dragon Age: Inquisition |OT2| Leave the damn Hinterlands!
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AnathemicOne
Banned
Finished the mini (but still important) plot quest The Final Piece.
Welp, glad that I didn't
Welp, glad that I didn't
drink from the well and let Morrigan to do so instead. And another lorebomb drop that I've enjoyed in now knowing that Mythal is Flemeth (or technically inside her, though Flemeth seems willing).
AnathemicOne
Banned
Do it.
neoism
Member
yeah watch a few vids and going tempest for sure looks awesome... I usually do assassin anything in rpgs so going to spice it up a bit...
Supermanisdead
Member
Alright, finished the main story at 84 hours. Need a lot of quests to finish though. MAJOR end spoilers:
What the fuck was up with Solas? He is some ancient Elven trickster god? Can he come back to my party? Can I find him??? What is this?????????
RaySpencer
Member
OK, so any guesses on how quick I could get myself to the part of the game where my main big quests are the fade and the ball (or dance or whatever it is)?
Once you progress the story a bit you'll eventually get a war table mission that costs like 4 power or so about Red Templars on the Storm Coast (I believe), it is what unlocks that area.
Can you actually make it so neither Leliana or Cassandra become Divine? Cassandra became Divine in my playthrough but I wasn't sure if there was a way to pull that off or if one or the other got chosen regardless.
Edit: Holy shit, I'm stupid. I keep quoting someone to edit in to a post then just hit reply instead. Sorry.
Pyros_Eien
Member
Not 100% sure that's what you're asking, but
Vivienne can become Divine
Yes, Vivienne can become Divine. Although the way the game comes to that conclusion isn't entirely clear. It's obviously based on your dialogue options and Vivienne wants to restore things to the status quo so if you agree with her on that and support her on the war table mission then it should start to swing that way.
Also, whoever you make Divine will stay in your party. They will just say that they are still making preparations for the transition. Cassandra actually begs you to take her out on adventures and stuff.
Also, whoever you make Divine will stay in your party. They will just say that they are still making preparations for the transition. Cassandra actually begs you to take her out on adventures and stuff.
toastyToast
Member
It's based on a few things. I didn't really support either and somehow I had
Vivienne become the divine.
It was really annoying because she was in my main party
Supermanisdead
Member
Leliana became divine in my game because I kept discouraging Cassandra and told Vivienne that Leliana would make a good choice.
Nah that is kind of what I'm asking but
I would've never guessed Vivienne would've been a choice, I half expected it to be some no-name NPC that were the only options outside of Cassandra/Leliana. That is cool though.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Ok guys. I need some help with my team.
So far I have
Sera
Iron Bull
Solas
Cassandra
Varric
And I've only used
Solas, Varric and Cassandra.
I'm trying to get all the companions before I get into the story quest but I'm having a bit of trouble on who to use.
I think at all times I need Solas as I am a warrior myself. However for back flanking, Varric and Sera make sense...
However Cassandra and Iron Bull is who I'm having trouble in swapping out. I've never used Iron Bull before so my question is, how is he?
So far I have
Sera
Iron Bull
Solas
Cassandra
Varric
And I've only used
Solas, Varric and Cassandra.
I'm trying to get all the companions before I get into the story quest but I'm having a bit of trouble on who to use.
I think at all times I need Solas as I am a warrior myself. However for back flanking, Varric and Sera make sense...
However Cassandra and Iron Bull is who I'm having trouble in swapping out. I've never used Iron Bull before so my question is, how is he?
Does fine as a tank if you give him a shield. AI can't play reaver so 2h dps is out.
Pyros_Eien
Member
Well first you missed Vivienne? In
Val Royeaux
Hinterlands
Bull is kinda meh unless you play on normal, or you spec him as a tank. You can make it work, it's just kinda harder since the AI is not really good at playing melee characters other than tanks, you'll have to make an inefficient ultra defensive build to actually make it work. In general Cassandra or Blackwall are much better tanks for that role too.
For your mage, any of the 3 mages is fine, matter of preference there.
I personally wouldn't recommend him unless you plan on controlling him yourself, or you really want to hear his banter(his banter with characters is pretty damn good). The AI is pretty poor at handling melee DPS in my experience. Even on Normal they can die a lot because the AI stands in stupid positions(Cleave radius etc) while dpsing. You can try and move them but they often move back.
I wouldn't even consider using him for a second in my current nightmare run. Which is a shame, because as I mentioned, his dialogue is pretty great.
Actually, you can still keep at least one of them in your party. (End-game spoilers)
Cassandra is still by the practice dummies in Skyhold even after being elected, and if you talk to her she asks you to take her on an adventure because she's sick of handling all the politics before her election, so she can still come on quests with you. The post-game is kind of weird that way; like Morrigan is still in the garden even though the ending said she left already.
And that particular aspect of the end-game is actually affected by a few factors from what I've read. Again, major end-game spoilers:
- The election of the Divine depends partly on your conversation choices and who you throw your support behind
- It depends partly on who you support for the Orlesian throne - apparently different mixes of Celene / Gaspard / Briala lead to support going to different candidates. Celene alone tends to throw support to Vivienne, I think? In my playthrough I had all three work together; apparently that comes out as a "neutral" for the Divine candidates
- I think it's also affected by the responses you give throughout the game on what should be done with the Chantry / Templars / Mages - should mages be free, should the Circle be reformed, should Cassandra reform the Seekers, etc. Vivienne favors rebuilding the Circle and the traditional structure; Cassandra seeks to keep both the Templars / Circles but reform them to the Chantry's original principles; Leliana just wants to do away with everything and start over to make the Chantry more open.
- It depends partly on who you support for the Orlesian throne - apparently different mixes of Celene / Gaspard / Briala lead to support going to different candidates. Celene alone tends to throw support to Vivienne, I think? In my playthrough I had all three work together; apparently that comes out as a "neutral" for the Divine candidates
- I think it's also affected by the responses you give throughout the game on what should be done with the Chantry / Templars / Mages - should mages be free, should the Circle be reformed, should Cassandra reform the Seekers, etc. Vivienne favors rebuilding the Circle and the traditional structure; Cassandra seeks to keep both the Templars / Circles but reform them to the Chantry's original principles; Leliana just wants to do away with everything and start over to make the Chantry more open.
My go-to party (as a mage) tended to be Dorian / Sera / Cassandra.
I preferred Sera over Varric as a ranged archer because of her Tempest specialization and because you have more options for her weaponry, rather than searching / crafting Bianca upgrades. Also, I think she's hilarious.
Of the Warriors, Iron Bull has fun banter and can deal a lot of damage but his AI defense tends to suck, and I kept on wasting healing potions on him when they should have been going to weaker members. Cassandra (and later Blackwall) both make great tanks and handle themselves well; Blackwall is almost unstoppable as a Champion (I pretty much never had to heal him) but personality-wise Cassandra plays off well against Sera and Dorian, whereas Blackwall (for me) was a bit more wooden in his banter, and he's almost antagonistic towards Dorian. Oh, and while Cassandra's specialization is a mixed bag, her Focus ability gives everyone Guard, which I found more useful than Blackwall's Focus ability (counter-attacking, I think).
I think any of the three mages are fine (if you're not playing a mage I guess Vivienne's specialty is useful if you want to take control of her); I just picked Dorian because of his personality / banter.
Not exactly.
I made Cassandra Divine. Technically she left, but when I talked to her in Skyhold she rejoined.
Spec Bull as a sword/board tank if you want to use him. I have him that way on nightmare with no problems.
LurkerPrime
Member
Man, every time I think I'm getting tired of this game I play another story mission and dismiss such silly thoughts.
Bioware figured out the perfect way to apply their formula.
Bioware figured out the perfect way to apply their formula.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
jgwhiteus said:
Some good impressions here. I guess it sounds like Cassandra and Blackwall for the win. I haven't gotten Vivienne but now I have to get her. I finished the first major mission to get Blackwall now, which I'm going to do asap and then go after Dorian. I kind of want him so bad so I need to work on that. On Varric, I do hate him due to that Bianca bullshit. I can't give him better weapons because of that so using Sera is pretty much a must.
Also since this is my first Dragon Age, I stayed on Normal.
AnathemicOne
Banned
Welp, I beat the final mission.
It was... well kinda underwhelming to be honest.
Anyways off with me to the spoiler thread!
Edit: Oh yeah I should state this first playthrough of mine took 74 hours.
It was... well kinda underwhelming to be honest.
I enjoyed the fight for its visuals and musical score but aside from that it ended too quickly, might be because I'm playing on normal but when regarding the other main plot quests I expected more like a zone to travel through.
Anyways off with me to the spoiler thread!
Edit: Oh yeah I should state this first playthrough of mine took 74 hours.
Demoskinos
Member
Oh man, so I've dipped my toe into multiplayer and I've been enjoying it a lot actually.... Unlocked the Reaver and she is so bad-ass. 
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
Awesome thx
Poodlestrike
Banned
Talk to the vendor in Haven, he'll sell you Bianca parts/schematics that should at least put it on par with any bow you've found up to that point.
I found a great unique bow early on, and it took forever before I was able to upgrade Bianca enough to compete.
Once you get tier 3 crafting materials and Bianca schematics though, Varric hits like a truck.
I want more missions like ME3 Citadel, where (Citadel DLC spoiler)
you go on a mission with your entire team working together. The banter during that mission was amazing.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Man.
Made Blackwall a Two-Handed Warrior.
Best thing ever.
Do I even dare respeccing Iron Bull into a board & sword tank?
Made Blackwall a Two-Handed Warrior.
Best thing ever.
Do I even dare respeccing Iron Bull into a board & sword tank?
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Ok, so I'm stuck. I don't know if I should side with the mages or the templars?
See on one hand, the mages seem desperate.. And dorian is kind of cool.
On the other hand, I can't stand that Lord Seeker but templars are strong allies.
Which path was better? Or does one work itself out and all the events carry on as normal?
See on one hand, the mages seem desperate.. And dorian is kind of cool.
On the other hand, I can't stand that Lord Seeker but templars are strong allies.
Which path was better? Or does one work itself out and all the events carry on as normal?
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
The mage quest is a lot more fun.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Haha! I was just thinking this... whenever you tire of finding camps/shards/companion missions, story mission it up - and all is well again.
It's easy to get a bit lost in it all I reckon.. which I don't mind at all.
Botanist.
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
I really wish I had known about Dragon Age Keep before my first playthrough. The default world state kind of blows. Actually, what I REALLY wish is that they had gone the extra step and have the PC version read your saves, since the site practically does that anyway (though possibly only for hero information and achievements).
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
i love being a mooselord
Fell through the world to below Skyhold and found this :O
http://i.imgur.com/ewKxnMg.png
Some looney keyboard music being played down there too. Disappeared when I got close so I couldn't interact with it though :<
http://i.imgur.com/ewKxnMg.png
Some looney keyboard music being played down there too. Disappeared when I got close so I couldn't interact with it though :<
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
I hope I am not the only one that felt "guilty" for making out-of-lore specialization for my characters: for example, making Sera using Daggers when at the very beginning the game noted on a conversation with her how she managed to learn amazing bow skills all on her own, or making Iron Bull using A sword and Shield. Or making Cole using bows, etc etc.
Or making Solas not learning Spirit tree skills. Seem so appropriate and lore-like for him to learn Spirit tree skills.
Or making Solas not learning Spirit tree skills. Seem so appropriate and lore-like for him to learn Spirit tree skills.
Yeah had the same happen to me too, couldn't get a screenshot though.
toastyToast
Member
I crafted some dual blade grips using the schematic that you can get from val royeaux. For some reason I can't attach them to the dual blades made from the schematic from the same vendor
What'sup with that?
What'sup with that?
figadapaura
Member
I did the same thing because
I wanted it to be Lelliana, but Cassandra has still become Divine in both my playthroughs. I'll just have to try again.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
I just...didn't do that, lol. There's literally no reason to when if I want a Rogue with a knife I'll use Cole, if I want arrows I'll use Sera. If I want a sword and shield Warrior I'll go with Cassandra, etc. etc.
But its your game, play it how you want. That said, every mage should have Spirit tree skills. For one, mages who can't cast barrier are fucking worthless. For another, Dispel is a legit ability when sealing fade rifts.
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
And then there's the bow that shoots three arrows...
figadapaura
Member
Made me wish I'd gone Tempest instead of Assassin. It was too good just to give it away.