Dragon Age: Veilguard releases with over 70k concurrent players on Steam and 'Mixed Reviews'

SNPlayen said:
All that matters are sales, not player count, but majority of games make their sales and money when a game releases. Player count is indicative of those numbers. I think sales would of missed target by a large margin
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I wonder how closely they correlate - concurrent user peaks on Steam and actual sales numbers, I mean. Gathering the data might take some effort, but the statistical analysis would be simple.
 
readonly said:
Is there any investigative journalist that has done a deep dive on these kinds of situations? Basically what we all know but news won't say, which is the woke mind virus has taken over these companies. I want interviews with the sane developers and management who can talk about the hostage takeover that's happening. Plenty just leave but I'm sure plenty are scared of change and stick it through the insanity until the inevitable closure. With firewalk we got the "toxic positivity" but not a ton more about the patients running the asylum.
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Part of the problem is that speaking out against it will get you scorned, marginalized, and potentially fired. So what we get are occasional sources speaking anonymously*, but not the "developers and management" you are talking about. The developers and management are the ones who are enabling it, and they see their actions as good and justifiable - so they aren't going to speak out. Again, anyone speaking out against "woke" from within a culture seeped in that ideology is just painting a target on themselves.


*p.s. Here's one example of that anonymous reporting from within, if you're interested. And before anyone comes at me about this content creator, I'm not vouching for his credibility; I've only seen a couple of his videos and don't really have a feel for him. Thought this one was interesting, though.

 
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Humdinger said:
Part of the problem is that speaking out against it will get you scorned, marginalized, and potentially fired. So what we get are occasional sources speaking under conditions of anonymously, but not the "developers and management" you are talking about. The developers and management are the ones who are enabling it, and they see their actions as good and justifiable - so they aren't going to speak out. Again, anyone speaking out against "woke" from within a culture seeped in that ideology is just painting a target on themselves.
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Pretty much.

And I'd bet the majority of people who enable and support politics are the creative types. And management green lights it due to idiocy or fear of repercussions.

I don't get the feeling from articles, social media accounts or people's looks and attitude the typical accounts payables clerk or junior sales rep or QA tester making min wage sitting there testing the same scenerios all week looking for bugs are the ones amped up on politics.

It's the unstable and emotional ones who bring their miserable personal lives into the corporate office hoping it spreads throughout the floor and then to products which customers buy.
 
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Humdinger said:
Part of the problem is that speaking out against it will get you scorned, marginalized, and potentially fired. So what we get are occasional sources speaking anonymously*, but not the "developers and management" you are talking about. The developers and management are the ones who are enabling it, and they see their actions as good and justifiable - so they aren't going to speak out. Again, anyone speaking out against "woke" from within a culture seeped in that ideology is just painting a target on themselves.


*p.s. Here's one example of that anonymous reporting from within, if you're interested. And before anyone comes at me about this content creator, I'm not vouching for his credibility; I've only seen a couple of his videos and don't really have a feel for him. Thought this one was interesting, though.

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The cancer has metastasized at Bioware, there is no saving it.
 
Only managed a peak of 58k today down from yesterdays 65k. However I am sure anyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy moment now the "modern audience" is going to turn up in droves and buy the game, right guys, right ?
 
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ChorizoPicozo said:
what is this supposed to be? :

1. something written in character?
2. Writers arguing about gender crap /notes between writers?
3. somone TRANscribed they diary?

these people are really cooked.
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It's so much funnier if you read it as a diary from a game dev who is forced to work on all that stupid shit but is kinda confused and really doesn't want to.
 
CharmingCharlie said:
Only managed a peak of 58k today down from yesterdays 65k. However I am sure anyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy moment now the "modern audience" is going to turn up in droves and buy the game, right guys, right ?
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It peaked at 64k today, so it's down but not much.

More notable is the game dropping in the sales chart. It's already fallen to #8 globally. Legs don't seem particularly strong.
 
SJRB said:
It's so much funnier if you read it as a diary from a game dev who is forced to work on all that stupid shit but is kinda confused and really doesn't want to.
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I have to be honest that is what I thought it was when it was posted in another thread without context.
 
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nah today's peak was 58,644 at 20:50 UTC then it started droppping off again. Yesterdays Peak was 65,639 again at 20:50 UTC. That is quite the drop either way EA can't be happy with these numbers
 
poppabk said:
I have to be honest that is what I thought it was when it was posted in another thread without context.
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Yeah same, when I first saw that screenshot I actually thought it was a dev log they forgot to remove.

Atrocious writing. And people are supposed to identify with this character? They had consultants to help them write this brainrot?

Unbelievably bad.
 
btw, don't know if anyone noticed but steam user reviews have been steadily decreasing. It was at ~77% at some point and its now at ~73%. Guess players are realizing game is a turd the more they play.
 
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StreetsofBeige said:
Pretty much.

And I'd bet the majority of people who enable and support politics are the creative types. And management green lights it due to idiocy or fear of repercussions.

I don't get the feeling from articles, social media accounts or people's looks and attitude the typical accounts payables clerk or junior sales rep or QA tester making min wage sitting there testing the same scenerios all week looking for bugs are the ones amped up on politics.

It's the unstable and emotional ones who bring their miserable personal lives into the corporate office hoping it spreads throughout the floor and then to products which customers buy.
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Part of the issue is I think what you are referring to as politics is really the woke stuff that falls into DEI. It is career suicide right now, not matter what industry or profession, to have a vocal dissenting opinion to any DEI topic. There is only one right answer and if you don't tow it you are done. That puts a ton of pressure on management and quite frankly any staff member to go along with this nonsense or at the very least not speak against it. Would not be surprised if there are quite a few at Bioware that have to turn this into a ball of shame and swallow it so they can keep their employment.
 
Last Hearth said:
The cancer has metastasized at Bioware, there is no saving it.
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I wonder what the doctors think of what has become of their baby. It was so good, back in the day. They cashed out for a big payday. I don't blame them - I probably would have done the same - but this is what happens when you sell out to a big corporation. I hope the doctors feel some regret about what has happened. What was once a great studio has become a joke.
 
This game could have the best gameplay and graphics in the world (and it doesn't seem to do), yet if you bough something that so disgustingly celebrates mental illness you have no right to complain about all the madness that is taking over modern media.
 
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Guilty_AI said:
btw, don't know if anyone noticed but steam user reviews have been steadily decreasing. It was at ~77% at some point and its now at ~73%. Guess players are realizing game is a turd the more they play.
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Not every game can be hellblade 2 and just keep getting better and better specially after the third+ playthrough
 
Halloween is over, day of the dead is over, the US election is over. Within the next couple days I think the DA fanbase's emotional trauma will subside enough for them to get out of bed, and they will be looking for some form of escape.

I expect a strong spike this weekend, probably 100K-150K or even higher.
 
DonkeyPunchJr said:
Halloween is over, day of the dead is over, the US election is over. Within the next couple days I think the DA fanbase's emotional trauma will subside enough for them to get out of bed, and they will be looking for some form of escape.

I expect a strong spike this weekend, probably 100K-150K or even higher.
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Next excuse behind peaks not being higher will be that people are busy buying stuff on Black Friday lol
 
Haven't checked for a few days because I was in therapy but it's already lost 30k from it's peak. And it's soon to dip below 20k even at its quietest times of the day.
 
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DonkeyPunchJr said:
Halloween is over, day of the dead is over, the US election is over. Within the next couple days I think the DA fanbase's emotional trauma will subside enough for them to get out of bed, and they will be looking for some form of escape.

I expect a strong spike this weekend, probably 100K-150K or even higher.
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Raygun just announced her retirement, people are gonna be too sad to play for a couple of days, give it time.
 
Kacho said:
Dropping like a rock. Already out of the top 10 sellers on Steam and it's been out for a week. Zero legs.

Also, it's nowhere to be seen on Xbox Most Played. That doesn't seem right...
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Well first there was Halloween, then the US election, then Black Friday, then Thanksgiving, then Christmas and THEN New Years.

So I'm sure after all these events pass people will have the time for Veilguard and players will rise to 100k and then to 200k.

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ChuckeRearmed said:
We still haven't got the numbers?
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EA had financial call right before Veilguard's launch and next one is in a few months. Unless the game was a smashing hit like Inquisition and sold above their expectations they will be silent about it. So yeah, I wouldn't expect news on that front any time soon tbh
 
I don't think we'll hear anything anytime soon, if they had something to brag about they would have written on Twitter like everyone else long ago. As I already wrote, considering the sales of DAI at 12,000,000 copies, I think they're unlikely to write anything, since figures less than this amount will look extremely ugly in documents and for investors. It always doesn't look very good when sales of the previous part of the game are higher than the new one.
 
Sorry for the silence everyone. Been suffering from a food coma from lapping up all the purple colored schadenfreude.

But yeah, as someone who has been mingling it up with the modern audience, how can you expect them to play games in a time like this!? They literally can't even. They are literally shaking.

So give them a week or two and then these numbers will peak.
 
The pre-Christmas craze is a tough time, and then it's holidays. After that, January goes uphill, and Saint Valentin is right after. It's a very busy schedule for people to give an insightful read to those diary entries.
 
Dazraell said:
Next excuse behind peaks not being higher will be that people are busy buying stuff on Black Friday lol
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How dare you! People are grieving right now after majority destroyed our democracy and there were riots at the polls!!! 😭😢😹😿

Black Friday will give people an outlet for spiritual healing through shopping! 🙏🙏🙏

And then there is Friedrich Engels birthday to celebrate and holidays. The game will really break out after 🇨🇳 New Year so sometime in February!



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thegame983 said:
Evidently people were too busy playing Dragon Age: The Veilguard to get out to vote.:messenger_moon:
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Probably so many people were inspired by Veilguard to change their gender identity, then got turned away from the polls when they refused to sign their deadname.

Decades from now, historians will blame Veilguard for the rise of Nazi totalitarianism and the enslavement of under-represented genders.
 
ap_puff said:
Are < 200 reviews really an indication of what people think of it? Most of those are people who rushed to put a hot take on there. Just scrolling down and every single negative review has less than 2 hours in the game. I don't care about the game but let's stop this nonsense and wait for the dust to settle.
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Now I understand why dragon age on sales frequently.
 
ap_puff said:
Are < 200 reviews really an indication of what people think of it? Most of those are people who rushed to put a hot take on there. Just scrolling down and every single negative review has less than 2 hours in the game. I don't care about the game but let's stop this nonsense and wait for the dust to settle.
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They play with fire, they clearly have prior thoughts about it and show how dumb the excuses they make where 99% of the time existed in the series from the beginning.

It's the same excuses you heard about Redfall where you find it in dishonored but these reviewers pretend it's the most stupid game ever made and ignore it's predecessors to strengthen their view point.
 
Looks like it's already on par with Inquisition in rating and reviews number. I suppose more people may have been inclined to review this one rather than indicating faster sales but still, seems par for the course for the series.

Not bad considering the turmoil with the series development since the original game and that it's apparently a wholly different genre now (now that cRPGs are on the rise🤦‍♂️). But I'm sure below expectations for the budget.
 
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