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Dragon Age: Veilguard releases with over 70k concurrent players on Steam and 'Mixed Reviews'

Even as jaded as I am about this game I still have to ask, is this real or a parody?
In the days when the world was still sane and normal, it would have been a parody. But not anymore after seeing how completely twisted and crazy that side is. The worse and most insane takes that you think are 100% trolls or parodies are actually how those mental nutjobs are actually like.
 
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It's 100% real. Patrick "Trick" Weekes went all out in Veilguard. Several trans people were consulted for Taash.
You know, that named sounded familiar until I remembered that he was the forum moderator/community manager on the old Bioware forums, which I was on in the old days, until Bioware got bought by EA and shutdown their own forums.
 

Kotaro

Member
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WTF is this shit?!? ...is this in the game??
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Is there someone out there who can explain to me what demigender is?
I believe it's that the person can't feel a sexual attraction for someone UNTIL they have a deep emotional bond together first.

I think it's how girls say they just don't like a guy 'cause he is ugly but they want him to think it's because she just doesn't know him all that well.

Susan is demisexual
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LectureMaster

Gold Member
Yeah whenever I see these posters saying things like "both sides are just as bad" they usually turn out to be on the side of the crazies but is just putting out the "both sides are bad" so it doesn't look obvious.

A actual person who truly does not care wont say anything but still won't mind if the side that supports mental illness gets dunked on. They'll just stay out of the conversation.
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The only way to look at it is trophy hunters don't care for it. That's it. As far as sales estimations, it's worthless.

If we're to put any credence towards those sites, that means its selling 4x more on Xbox than PS. Which we all know is bullshit.

That's not what it means, trueachievements has a much higher userbase than truetrophies. The point was to compare the percentage within their own userbases. So I guess the real question is, what difference is there between Inquisition and Veilguard that makes achievement/trophy hunters not want to play it.
 
That's not what it means, trueachievements has a much higher userbase than truetrophies. The point was to compare the percentage within their own userbases. So I guess the real question is, what difference is there between Inquisition and Veilguard that makes achievement/trophy hunters not want to play it.

There's no real question to ask, because again the site is worthless
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
It started as an insult, then they started using it to describe themselves.
"Chud" has a harsh tone, it's a strong sounding word. Since it has no actual meaning in any context other than the 80's film it's easy to co-opt it.

In fact, more groups should adopt their insults and claim anyone ELSE using it as a pejorative is engaging in "chudophobia" and is a "chudist" just to throw their "victim-first" ideology back at them.
 

gow3isben

Member
I believe it's that the person can't feel a sexual attraction for someone UNTIL they have a deep emotional bond together first.

I think it's how girls say they just don't like a guy 'cause he is ugly but they want him to think it's because she just doesn't know him all that well.

Susan is demisexual
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Ok that is Demi sexual


But what about demigender bro
 
It started as an insult, then they started using it to describe themselves.
It's pretty hard to insult people from that segment of the internet. They've been shouting slurs at each other before reddit, twitter or discord safe spaces existed. What's one more going to do? "Pissing in an ocean of piss" as they say.
 

Humdinger

Gold Member
I can already feel "official statement from EA about DA:V not meeting sales expectations" thread will be glorious one :D

I don't think you're going to see EA making that announcement. They will be in a defensive posture because of the backlash the game has gotten. They will avoid acknowledging any shortfall. That's what I would predict, anyway.

In fact, I think you'll see the opposite - press releases about how it sold a million in two weeks (or whatever) and how it set the sales record for Dragon Age games released on Halloween or something. Trying to prop up its reputation, make it seem like a hit. That's what I would expect.
 

Raven117

Member
I don't think you're going to see EA making that announcement. They will be in a defensive posture because of the backlash the game has gotten. They will avoid acknowledging any shortfall. That's what I would predict, anyway.

In fact, I think you'll see the opposite - press releases about how it sold a million in two weeks (or whatever) and how it set the sales record for Dragon Age games released on Halloween or something. Trying to prop up its reputation, make it seem like a hit. That's what I would expect.
And that’s fine. They can lie to you. They can lie to all of us. And they often do.

You know who they can’t lie to? Their shareholders. Either in their SEC filings (probably a 10k next year), and/or a shareholder call, they are going to have to say that sales did or did not meet expectations
 

Humdinger

Gold Member
And that’s fine. They can lie to you. They can lie to all of us. And they often do.

You know who they can’t lie to? Their shareholders. Either in their SEC filings (probably a 10k next year), and/or a shareholder call, they are going to have to say that sales did or did not meet expectations

Will we have access to those SEC filings? And if so, when would those be available?
 

Raven117

Member
Will we have access to those SEC filings? And if so, when would those be available?
Yup. It’s a public company.

Depends, usually 45-90 days after the end of their fiscal year. Looks like last year (2023 year filed in 2024), it was May 24, 2024. I would expect the same(ish) this year.

Here are the filings. You can also get it off the SEC website.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Checking a handful of random games like Space Marines II, Helldivers 2, Wukong, Metaphor ReF, most of these games start strong in the first bunch of days and they slowly die down.

Exception is Helldivers II which was two full weeks of going up on Steam, then it started going down.

For Veilguard, Monday has been a down day, so it's similar to SMII, Wukong, Metaphor. So unless it can reverse itself, it may have peaked already on Steam at 89,000. It is an RPG so it shoud have decent legs. Also BF deals should pop up soon boosting sales, and then Xmas sales boost. So I think it may hold decently well rest of year. But 2025 it'll sink. Given the vibe this game has, no DLC, no mods, it wont have staying power at it's level like BG3.
 

xenosys

Member
For Veilguard, Monday has been a down day, so it's similar to SMII, Wukong, Metaphor. So unless it can reverse itself, it may have peaked already on Steam at 89,000. It is an RPG so it shoud have decent legs. Also BF deals should pop up soon boosting sales, and then Xmas sales boost. So I think it may hold decently well rest of year. But 2025 it'll sink. Given the vibe this game has, no DLC, no mods, it wont have staying power at it's level like BG3.

You're probably right. I don't see Veilguard generating enough positive word of mouth that player numbers continue to increase week on week during the weekends. It's probably peaked at 90k.
 

Humdinger

Gold Member
Yup. It’s a public company.

Depends, usually 45-90 days after the end of their fiscal year. Looks like last year (2023 year filed in 2024), it was May 24, 2024. I would expect the same(ish) this year.

Here are the filings. You can also get it off the SEC website.

Ok, so in May 2025, we should get a reliable report from EA. That's good. Thanks for the info.
 

SNPlayen

Member
All that matters are sales, not player count, but majority of games make their sales and money when a game releases. Player count is indicative of those numbers. I think sales would of missed target by a large margin
 
If there are no sales updates in a week that supports the theory that the game underperformed.
I get the feeling that phobes, ists, and ism are about to start flying off shelves and into our news of why this didn’t perform.
PR: "This game is not for you, istphobe. You will not be missed"
*game flops*
PR: "This game underperformed because those istphobes didn't buy the game. Its their fault. Damm you, incel chuds"
 
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readonly

Neo Member
Is there any investigative journalist that has done a deep dive on these kinds of situations? Basically what we all know but news won't say, which is the woke mind virus has taken over these companies. I want interviews with the sane developers and management who can talk about the hostage takeover that's happening. Plenty just leave but I'm sure plenty are scared of change and stick it through the insanity until the inevitable closure. With firewalk we got the "toxic positivity" but not a ton more about the patients running the asylum.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Is there any investigative journalist that has done a deep dive on these kinds of situations? Basically what we all know but news won't say, which is the woke mind virus has taken over these companies. I want interviews with the sane developers and management who can talk about the hostage takeover that's happening. Plenty just leave but I'm sure plenty are scared of change and stick it through the insanity until the inevitable closure. With firewalk we got the "toxic positivity" but not a ton more about the patients running the asylum.
What "journalist"? The same company owns the game devs AND the game mags! We are deeeeeeeeeep into monopoly hell now since no one seems interested in busting up these MASSIVE multimedia/multinational hydra-esque megacorps/equity funds.
 

readonly

Neo Member
What "journalist"? The same company owns the game devs AND the game mags! We are deeeeeeeeeep into monopoly hell now since no one seems interested in busting up these MASSIVE multimedia/multinational hydra-esque megacorps/equity funds.
I guess I use that term a little more loosely. Independent journalists and podcasters.
 

Hookshot

Member
The irony is that Hog Leg is one of the wokest games of all time and has almost as bad levels of 'safe space' writing.
A Korean caretaker and Japanese broom teacher in Scotland hundreds of years ago? The Ugandan and the south Asians might sort of might make a bit of make sense due to the British Empire but not the east Asians. All the Hamlets are full of "minorities" as well. It's not the real world though so it's not as nonsensical as when the change race of real people.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
I guess I use that term a little more loosely. Independent journalists and podcasters.
Currently we are in a gap of ways to pay for journalism like that. None of the major outlets are interested in funding an investigation like this. All the freelance guys are easy to ignore, marginalize, dismiss, or pay off since their access hinges on "toeing the line" to a certain extent and they can be blanket blacklisted. Folks complaining about the inside situation are labelled as racists, bigots, disgruntled "incels" or "chuds", or are just bots/plants designed to discredit the position in the first place.

Only a mass $$$ driven response from the audience will correct this. No politician is gonna save us. No billionaire, no game dev, no media outlet, no youtuber. It will require a reflexive or coordinated abandonment of anything "woke" to push the pendulum back towards sanity. Once the powers that be see there is no money in it and the market has spoken, they will suddenly rebrand everything, gaslight us all that there was ever a problem, and then feed us "normal" stuff for a cycle or two, then start it all over again.
 
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