ArchedThunder
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Oh yeah, the new ED will premier with the double episode as well.
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Dragon Ball Super |OT8| There is no justice or evil, only survival or erasure.
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That episode was really good. There wasn't any real bullshit. It was just classic Roshi with actual character development for another side character. Minor gripes included Goku finally deciding to go SSB after he thought Roshi had died... lmao. Also the animation of the his final kamehameha lacked umpf. It could've been animated a lot better to really hit it home.
Next episode is gonna be good.
Next episode is gonna be good.
JadedWriter
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It has finally just dawned on me that the universe is terrified by two toddlers that can't even fucking count passed 10.
I'll have to see what the new form can do, because it's not doing much for me visually either.
Icyflamez96
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correction: they can count to a lot
QuiteWhittle
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Shirtless Goku >>> all other Gokus
Eh par for the course
deaadd
My biggest issue is the reason for this tournament was Goku was getting rusty, so it just seems weird for him to get a powerup when that goes against how this arc started.
If it's a powerup he gets in the middle of the fight, I don't think that's really needed though. Goku did talk about wanting to break past his limits, and a lot of characters are doing that now with Roshi and Gohan, so it's there. If it's like SSJ3 where Goku's been saving it, for narrative reasons that's awful given how this arc started.
If this gets rid of Blue I'm happy though..
Next episode, Krillin gets 2 buddies joining him.
Believe.
I do want to see Beerus's reaction to Tien, since I don't think he's reacted to Tien once.
That's the whole point of the tournament. Get that Universe count down to something manageable.
Why does Super have so many power ups anyway.
I don't care about it either (as I don't like any new forms in super so far), but if it comes with getting a show defining fight then I'll deal with it.
I mean eff, we've already had over 100 episodes and I don't think Super has had one of those fights.
The movies cancel the BoG and RoF fights
The closest thing imo was Hit vs Goku rd 1. But the main thing it lacked was stakes.
the Black arc could've easily had one of those fights....if they hadn't fought so many times with the same people, same location, and with each fight seemingly losing significance.
so....still waiting.
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oh yea Gohan v Goku was good. But again, stakes. I'd put it below the Goku v Hit fight.
Trunks vs Black rd 1 would've been that tier if it was longer imo. I loved how the arc started.
I don't see the worry that it's being rushed, unless I missed something other than the Jiren fight starting sooner than expected.
The Jiren vs. Goku fight might not even have it's ending. I could see Goku's powerup having a time limit, and Dyspo saving Jiren after Jiren gets severely weak,andGoku gets drained as well, so they both have to sit out for a little bit, or Jiren still takes out the weaklings since they're no threat to him. Goku and Vegeta both being "out", even if Goku's still in the ring, would be good.
There's also the interruption possibility.
Maybe Jiren getting weakened by Goku could give Gohan, Frieza, or Kale a chance at putting up a fight with him
The Jiren vs. Goku fight might not even have it's ending. I could see Goku's powerup having a time limit, and Dyspo saving Jiren after Jiren gets severely weak,andGoku gets drained as well, so they both have to sit out for a little bit, or Jiren still takes out the weaklings since they're no threat to him. Goku and Vegeta both being "out", even if Goku's still in the ring, would be good.
There's also the interruption possibility.
Maybe Jiren getting weakened by Goku could give Gohan, Frieza, or Kale a chance at putting up a fight with him
Undead Fantasy
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Herms posted this on Twitter:
Welp.
They are going to rush this up.
Welp.
They are going to rush this up.
ZeroTheShadow
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I hope you guys have noticed all Future Zeno does is copy what Zeno does. Sometimes he makes mistakes too.
MiguelMexMIstery
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A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
How do you gather that from that tweet?
I'd rather that than a rushed ending. So it's more hope since we know it's being rushed if there isn't one.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
The whole idea for the tournament is pretty much wrestling so might as well have a wrestling finish
https://youtu.be/mXWbPmjJSpc?t=2m21s
Icyflamez96
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Tournament climax, not arc climax. There's still hope.
Something something Zamasu Something something civil war
ZeroTheShadow
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How else you gonna up the stakes after this arc?
Fulminator
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Lost my shit when I saw this, I love that little guy
Also exciting that this fight is starting so soon
Nothing to stop them from doing the Goku v Jiren fight concurrently with other stuff as well also
Fulminator
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Why do they change up the ED so often?
ZeroTheShadow
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RIP Boogie Back.
Undead Fantasy
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Nah.
dickroach
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this shit's went on wayyyyyyyyy way way too long. but there's still 20+ fighters left in the tournament, 13 of them being the only ones that mattered at all from the beginning, and they're about to just end it? they're either rushing it or taking a big plot turn.
like... are they finally gonna reveal the Grand Priest is evil already? just do it.
Fulminator
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kunonabi
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What gets me is how much padding and standing around there is. I know it's Dragonball but still.
Crimson_Echidna
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Sounds like the ending elimination theory was completely off the mark then, unless Jiren just happens to eliminate everyone in order. lol
Really liked this episode a lot. I got a little emotional when Roshi was talking about his students, and how they've reignited him and made him a better person and fighter. And they actually had me for a second. I really thought he may die there.
The only real bummers were the fact that his Kamehameha was not animated well enough to match the emotion that was supposed to come with it (which really was a bummer, because besides that it was such a powerful scene), and Goku continuing to be a fucking idiot and not getting out of situations that he easily can get out of to help himself or his friends until the last second.
But overall, this was a really great episode. They treated Roshi with a lot of care, and managed to develop a character that seemed like they had nothing left to develop. I do kinda wonder where Tien was in all of this though.
The only real bummers were the fact that his Kamehameha was not animated well enough to match the emotion that was supposed to come with it (which really was a bummer, because besides that it was such a powerful scene), and Goku continuing to be a fucking idiot and not getting out of situations that he easily can get out of to help himself or his friends until the last second.
But overall, this was a really great episode. They treated Roshi with a lot of care, and managed to develop a character that seemed like they had nothing left to develop. I do kinda wonder where Tien was in all of this though.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
What if Jiren eliminates everyone in that order but starts with Goku and ends with Tien?
dickroach
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I think the whole recruitment arc was padding
"if we don't win this our entire existence gets erased" "ok im in"
that didn't need to go on for 20 episodes or whatever
Toppo: This is no longer a tournament. *Destroys the ring*
Toppo: We fight until the death now.
Tournament ends, fight to the death matches begins
Toppo: We fight until the death now.
Tournament ends, fight to the death matches begins
It went on too long for U7. Other universes needed some of those episodes.
Linkstrikesback
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*Everyone falls except that one guy who is still flying, all the other universes are erased*
Jiren:shit.
angelic
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You should be a writer, that's brilliant stuff.
The recruitment arc was atmosphere building, gave us a look into the other universes, we saw the devious plans, we got Frieza out of hell, too much great stuff to list. Watching DBS for closure is doing it wrong, the show is about the journey. We've still only had 15 minutes of the actual TOP and it's been going on almost 2 months.
Hikari_Ryu
Banned
What if Goku draws with Jiren during the special, then we have a bunch of episodes of the other U7 fighters stalling for time until he recovers for a final battle?
Wouldn't it be cool if while Goku is resting, Frieza tries to kill him and Vegeta intervenes? We'll finally see Vegeta taking out Frieza.
I would also love if someone kills their opponent thinking they'll only get DQ but they get erased on the spot.
Wouldn't it be cool if while Goku is resting, Frieza tries to kill him and Vegeta intervenes? We'll finally see Vegeta taking out Frieza.
I would also love if someone kills their opponent thinking they'll only get DQ but they get erased on the spot.
snickothemule
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the recruitment arc gave us Goku and Krillin going on an adventure to get Roshi's weed, subsequently Krillin got his groove back, show owns.
dickroach
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I mean, either these characters will stick around after this arc, in which case we'll see more of them, or they wont, so who gives a shit about them
with that said, I want more U11.
thanx
ArchedThunder
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The ED changes with every cour, or "season". October is the start of the Fall anime season.
Seriously yes
One of the more interesting episodes is where see glimpse of other universe
That'd be neat. My thought would be either Goku gets knocked out, or his transformation has a time limit like SSG did, or is just really demanding.
Jiren could still fight then, but not be as strong as he was when he completely wrecked Kale, maybe a little stronger than Toppo.
So would that be to say that the Grand Angel is going to actually enforce the "No Killing" rule at that point? Or will the Zenos be like,
"OHH! *makes circles with their arms over their heads*"
"The Zenos have allowed killing!"
Would be funny, but if anything else, I'm just waiting to see if we are actually going to see someone get killed (not Roshi's brush with death) and how that will be dealt with.
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