There isn't much productive discussion on the canon front anyway, other than fans making up excuses for Toei/Toriyama.
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There isn't much productive discussion on the canon front anyway, other than fans making up excuses for Toei/Toriyama.
You know ... the only thing I miss in Dragonball Super is the lack of blood or injuries. Dragonball Z did that perfectly to show how vicious a fight was.
I remember Vegeta vs Buu. Goddamn ... Vegeta got destroyed.
The current arc in DBS is a bit lackluster. There's no "real" danger. Here's hoping it'll pick up speed the coming episodes.
In the mean time, I'm waiting for more leaks.
I remember Vegeta vs Buu. Goddamn ... Vegeta got destroyed.
The current arc in DBS is a bit lackluster. There's no "real" danger. Here's hoping it'll pick up speed the coming episodes.
In the mean time, I'm waiting for more leaks.
The Abominable Snowman
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Thats how I feel about a lot of the more mainstream anime nowadays
But that scene of Frieza torturing that one fighter and telling them to jump themselves or he'll make them jump... whew. I almost wish for much more frieza in the storyline.
Yeah ... or the moment he dreamed about the thing he'd do to Goku (lol). But still .. most of the fights lack impact.
He said the exact opposite of that.
Let's all take a moment and pray that someone is comforting Magetta right now.
Mr. Satan should have died about 50 times on the Kai's planet with all the shock waves from the attacks. I think he got hit with a few, and punched by Kid Buu who doesn't hold back. Same with the Cell arc.
Energy shocks from Cell, I know it's not canon, should have obliterated Krillin and friends when they were trying to help Gohan during his Kamehameha struggle.
Krillin took a hit from Cell, and Krillin stated Cell used his full power in that kick.
But it's a Super specific problem. Please understand.
HazySaiyan
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Ki blasts have never been consistent, sometimes they push back, sometimes they obliterate. It's always been that way.
LSauchelli
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They're consistent in that there are various "modes", sometimes they're basically punches, sometimes they're railguns, sometimes they obliterate everything in a small crater and sometimes they core planets.
Think about DB. Roshi could core the moon with his biggest blast, and by the time Goku was fighting Piccolo, he was impressed by a blast that only caused a relatively small crater.
ArchedThunder
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Can an episode ever top this happening 3 times?
I hope Hit tells Goku not to let his guard down next episode.
Those bottom images happened first.
Fulminator
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I really hope Vegeta goes to take out magetta now that botamo is out lol
That's why we got that long ass ss3 transformation as well, and all the other times he goes ss3 is instant
Goku wasn't trying to defeat majin Buu in that fight, he only confronted Buu to buy time for trunks to get the dragon radar
That's why we got that long ass ss3 transformation as well, and all the other times he goes ss3 is instant
Can an episode ever top this happening 3 times?
I hope Hit tells Goku not to let his guard down next episode.
Then you had:
How many times has Goku been yelled at so far in the tournament for not doing this?
PapaGreg95
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So if its not too late to have alternate Trunk looks, here is Punished Trunks
Fulminator
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Goku just trying to do his thing and have some fun and everyone be like"keep your guard up bro", like just let Goku do his thing man
He said that they would remain Super Saiyan unless they're sleeping until we get used to it.
Gohan was fighting one person he rung out, while Goku in that shot was outsmarted by a technique and he Goku still didn't need help.
Last episode seemed like it was in a creative rut, from the guard stuff to somebody getting trapped in-between projectile attacks (which also happened three times).Can an episode ever top this happening 3 times?
I hope Hit tells Goku not to let his guard down next episode.
Undead Fantasy
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If I wasn't told that DBS Future Trunks was the same dude from DBZ, I would never has guessed. Dude resembles nothing from past future trunks. His teletubby design is even worse
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LordOfChaos
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And then 17 jumped in between the holes in that "trap". /literal/ hole in the plot, lol
He's leaner and smaller !
Romars202129
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I just figured Rozie would close the trap if Goku tried to escape, but not if someone tried to get in.
Real plot hole is Goku could have just ITed out.
I feel like the only time he really fucked up in letting his guard down was in 97. That was inexcusable.
In 101 my understanding was Tupper got behind him while Goku was fighting Zoiray, since Zeno said the fight already started, then we saw impact shots before Goku was grabbed, and Goku fell into a trap this episode, that 17 has fell into in the past.
In 101 my understanding was Tupper got behind him while Goku was fighting Zoiray, since Zeno said the fight already started, then we saw impact shots before Goku was grabbed, and Goku fell into a trap this episode, that 17 has fell into in the past.
ArchedThunder
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The point is that Goku was surrounded and the magical girl could move the blasts in when she wanted, it wasn't that he physically couldn't move.
Plot hole? We didn't even see what Goku would have done if 17 hadn't shown up, he very well may have just teleported out. The fact that 17 came to help doesn't mean that Goku wouldn't have been able to deal with it himself.
Fulminator
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Lmao, at what point does getting outmaneuvered become letting your guard down??
Everyone has it out for Goku smh
Everyone has it out for Goku smh
Plot hole isn't a character not doing something.
Seriously. Then again, since Beerus said it, it must be true.
Piccolo got punch in the face by the U10 guy, must have let his guard down.
LordOfChaos
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ToriGoku Forgot
Plot hole: a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot. Such inconsistencies include such things as illogical or impossible events, and statements or events that contradict earlier events in the storyline
Sorry pet peeve of mine, characters acting dumb or not acting how you want them too is not a plot hole.
Sorry pet peeve of mine, characters acting dumb or not acting how you want them too is not a plot hole.
Romars202129
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I mean if Goku said "Thanks 17, but I was just about to IT out of that snafu though", then I'd agree, you 2 are correct.
But thats not the way the show presented it.
Thank you. This is a major pet peeve of mines too along with other misuses of literature terms.
Why would Goku tell 17 exactly how he was going to escape? Him saying he didn't need his help should be enough, even if he didn't plan to teleport.
LordKasual
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This is the most unbelievable thing about the tournament thus far
DBZ at this level basically has 3 options for being hit by finishing moves:
1) it gets deflected/blocked
2) it's evaded
3) catastrophic damage
As of the Cell Saga, this stopped meaning much because enemies who actually got hit with finishing moves DID take catastrophic damage...it just doesn't end up killing them
And it seems like you would almost have to use overwhelming force to defeat opponents in this tournament, since an underpowered blast wouldn't need to be met with lethal force to be deflected, and these are the strongest opponents in the universe.
The only real explanation would be that the people fighting and people being knocked off are simply fatigued to the point where they're using very weak blasts compared to what they normally would
Can an episode ever top this happening 3 times?
I hope Hit tells Goku not to let his guard down next episode.
I'm just under the impression that goku is trolling like fuck
Romars202129
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I didnt take that statement to mean the saving was unnecessary. I took it as 'i can take it from here"
17 directly said, it seems Goku needed his help. Goku disagreed. Nothing suggested that Goku couldn't handle the situation, especially when he's still in his base form. He could've just gone Super Saiyan and tanked the hit if he wanted to.
ArchedThunder
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*The Sound of Silence plays in the distance*
LordKasual
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It's really good. Love his expression.
Fulminator
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It's not a plot hole though
Lmao people forgetting Beerus is an idiot too
foxuzamaki
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I 👍 of this title
foxuzamaki
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Holy shitFight you? I wanna kill you.
#TeamGohan
Ribrianne your turn.
Romars202129
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A character forgetting they have a move... I guess its nothing to do with plot? Apologize everyone. Ive shamed the thread.
I feel like people who don't like Goku for whatever reason just shit on every scene that he's in for no reason
. It's getting a bit obnoxious to read.
He didn't even get a chance to react to those ki blasts before 17 jumped in this week. I mean did you guys not watch the following scene of him completely out manoeuvring her in base form? Those blasts weren't about to do anything either way (and yes, Goku used IT in his attack. He hasn't forgotten^)
except those with Gohan in them. What a surprise
He didn't even get a chance to react to those ki blasts before 17 jumped in this week. I mean did you guys not watch the following scene of him completely out manoeuvring her in base form? Those blasts weren't about to do anything either way (and yes, Goku used IT in his attack. He hasn't forgotten^)
But Goku didn't forget it. He just didn't use it in that moment and we'll never know if he would since 17 jumped it.
*lays down dagger*
You know what to do
It's not that though, it's pet peeve and semantics but plot holes are something that is supposed to be impossible in the universe or contradict stuff not guys being idiots
every american anti hero show ever?
Goku (n_n): Say my name
I think it's more a vocal minority thing. I mean, if you read threads, no one likes Superman or Captain America.
I hope Goku keeps (n_n) even as the multiverse explodes given how trigger people get over it.
Fulminator
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He didn't forget it, he used it moments later
There are a million and one spots in dbz and dbs where goku could have used IT and didn't
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