Tal Shiar Agent
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It was there since BoG (don't know if it was in Super too). Goku rapidly healed from Beerus' hits when in SSJG.
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Gowasu told him to drop the pendant so they could get more views on Godtube.
If it works the same way as the BoG arc, that's correct. Beerus got a hit in on Goku that was intended to kill him, he fell in the water, then his red aura spiked up as it body started to heal.
There's also speculation it might give him more speed than Blue, since Goku is fighting a speedster.
I'm also wondering if the fire like aura might be use as a protective barrier against Dyspo, so he can't get close to Goku even with his speed.
Holy Order Sol
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LMAO
Icyflamez96
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I guess we'll find out.
The Warrior of Darkness shall prevail !
Don't you fucking start.
And no HeroR, for the record, people don't hate Superman in Superman stories or Justice League stories...
Because Dragon ball
To be fair, against Botamo most 2 v 1 attacks wouldn't work.
They would have had to plan specifically for Botamo.
I'm assuming this is something he got recently. Maybe from his training from Whis in Vegeta's training room, or from Sidra's attack. I'm not even expecting Goku to know he can channel this form until 5 minutes into the episode.
Fair enough lol
RocknRola
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We've known this since the BoG saga when the series started. What's the surprise?
Sony
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You can have a hardon for Cavill all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that most people hate Henry Cavill superman. Not in appearance, cause he looks great as Supe, but in character. To a point where fucking captain America is a better superman.
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Vegeta's back seat role is worse. He's been an integral part of Dragonball but he's ignored AF.
MiguelMexMIstery
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Nice OT title
and screw Cabba
and screw Cabba
What lol he had his own episode against U9 with Goku and has participated in other fights. He has been in the spotlight more than Gohan, Piccolo, Roshi, Tenshinhan, Freezer and maybe Krillin.
RocknRola
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Meh, Cabba is just a lame Gohan anyway :V don't need the copy when we have the real deal!
Two things
1) There's a broken narrative about his characterization that was pushed online despite being flat out wrong, I've debated enough about it and this isn't the place for it, if you care about it we can take that in private
2) Millions of people love him and are excited to see him return, which was also showcased in the recent Justice League threads, comic con and his instagram. People are able to dissociate a character from their overall disappointment over a movie. Then you have the people hating on anything Snyder has done so whatever. You ignore blind haters.
shadowsdarknes
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Goku also got to fight Toppo, Bergamo, Hogan, Frieza, 17, and even Buu. Those all helped Goku.
Which is fine but Piccolo knows of him, Gohan doesn't. With the fate of the Universe on the line it's an ill time to see how Gohan will adapt on the fly.
Fulminator
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I mean the scene in battle of gods arc made it seem like Goku has no idea how to use the healing, it kind of just happened
So I don't think it's something he can activate (unless he learned how by this point)
Poor cabba
Lmao I wonder how Beerus will react to Goku coming in to save Hit
Goku literally said in the episode that he had told gohan about botamo, and that he was sure Gohan had developed a strategy to beat him
Gohan said Goku told him about Botamo so he came up with that plan. He didn't adapt on the fly here. He did when he fought the U10 guy.
That was strategy. Strategy doesn't necessarily mean teaming up.
RocknRola
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lol also true! Best characters in DBS by far! hehe
He was there in BoG, RoF, U6 v U7, Future Trunks arc and now the ToP. He'll have his moment, he isn't being ignored, at least they're giving more characters their time to shine, though I gotta say I didn't like how they treated Krillin after building him up.
shadowsdarknes
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I feel like this Universe lacks proper rivals. Seemingly the only people that can truly go toe to toe with Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, 17, and perhaps Gohan are Toppo, Hit, (Dyspo maybe) and Jiren. I can't tell how much 17 was trying against Ribrianne but it seemed like she was about to lose if it wasn't for the escape.
We haven't seen every fighter yet but still...
We haven't seen every fighter yet but still...
bennywhatever
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So true story, I never liked 17 until this arc. Now he's probably the only U7 character I like. And it sucks because they've been eluding to him getting thrown out soon the last 2 episodes
He better stay in. The only intelligent character in the whole damn tournament.
Fulminator
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To me it seemed like neither 17 not ribrianne were at full power
E: how have they been alluding to 17 getting rung out???
E: how have they been alluding to 17 getting rung out???
So true story, I never liked 17 until this arc. Now he's probably the only U7 character I like. And it sucks because they've been eluding to him getting thrown out soon the last 2 episodes
He better stay in. The only intelligent character in the whole damn tournament.
Dude please, he's not going anywhere.
I missed that part then. But wouldn't it be better to let Piccolo in on the strategy and to carry it out together? Plus Goku was there. The strategy was literally "keep attacking until he lifts off the ground and I can push him back", carrying this out with 3 people should make it easier while also preserving stamina and he landed a LOT of hits.
bennywhatever
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He's been getting a lot of airtime and he's not a saiyan. Since only 1 U7 person has been knocked out so far, it just seems like that's where they're headed. They need an "oh shit" knockout.
Fulminator
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I mean the obvious counterpoint to this is that Gohan clearly had zero difficulty doing it on his own
Except unneeded burning of stamina. Throwing a flurry of punches is sure to have caused a hit in his stamina, however minute, and they need every bit as they still have a long fight ahead of them.
Fulminator
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i mean think what you want, but i don't think he lost much stamina, he was completely fine afterwards, not even winded
Honestly, I think it's gonna come down to Goku, Vegeta, & 17.
What ? There's no way Goku loses.
HazySaiyan
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No he just destroys entire universes.
I think that will be Vegeta. When 17 finally goes down, it will probably be alongside his sister.
Fulminator
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he means those will be the final 3 in u7
although i think freeza will be in there somewhere, i feel like they are saving him for closer to the end
e: nvm you're right, i read the post wrong
The cartoons had Superman exploding helicopters, punching bad guys through city buildings, and even destroying hospitals .
I'm still betting on Tien being the second loser. He's so useless. Waste of a slot. I don't care about "invisible enemies woah so kewl" when Gohan learned to use his aura as sonar, remember ?
I'm still betting on Tien being the second loser. He's so useless. Waste of a slot. I don't care about "invisible enemies woah so kewl" when Gohan learned to use his aura as sonar, remember ?
Epsilon-delta
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This is what I'm hoping.
Reizo Ryuu
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There's at least 2 that I can remember, vegeta was stronger than goku when he trained with whis. Whis even made vegeta's weights twice as heavy. They became equal after goku trained with whis aswell.
And with black it was extremely obvious vegeta was much stronger again than goku, the beatdown he gave black was as one-sided as it could get.
Goku didn't really push back zamasu's blast, he pierced it by using so much energy he destroyed his arms. Getting hit by the kamehameha stopped zamasu from pushing the sphere.
It's pretty similar to vegeta's self destruct vs majin buu, any more energy and goku's arms would've probably literally exploded. This doesn't mean that goku was actually stronger in that instance though, just that he was more ride or die about the whole thing.
Those universes were going to be destroyed anyway because of their mortal level, Goku game them a fighting chance at the very least. Don't blame him for the two children who can wipe away billions with the flick of their wrist thinking they need to be wiped away.
P.S. The episode where Captain Marvel and Superman's fist colliding caused a significant amount of collateral damage was due to Superman worrying about a potential bomb blowing up innocent civilians, even telling those present to get away in case he can't stop it. That's not even remotely the same thing as pushing Zod through a corn field and all the other collateral damage he causes in both films.
HazySaiyan
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I know I was being sarcastic
Be funny if Tien starts hyping this up as his chance to do something, and then as he starts powering up Gohan just one shots them.
My assumption is
106 will be the invisible fighters, and that's when U4 is destroyed or near destroyed.
Piccolo said Gohan knew about Botamo, before Goku revealed to Piccolo he explained his fight with Botamo to Gohan. I'm assuming Piccolo told him the basics, and then Goku told him more in depth how he approached Botamo.
That's why Piccolo was starting to get worried when Gohan started throwing punches.
What a time to be a Roshi fan. More development than he's really ever had, I guess not as big as him accepting he hit his peak in DB, but still more than anything in DBZ, and outlasting more than half his team.
I still think Tenshinhan is next, then maybe Vegeta if they want a shocking situation. I see Roshi, Piccolo and Freeza outlasting the Androids and Goku and Gohan being the final two.
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