StueyDuck
Member
are you suggesting it's incriminating because it doesn't say what it actually says?
that's like saying "I didn't shoot that guy" proves that i did.
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DrDisrespect permanently banned from Twitch [Now Streaming on YouTube]
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that's like saying "I didn't shoot that guy" proves that i did.
Thyuda
Member
The man literally came out and admitted to engaging in pretty disgusting behaviour
Show me, I don't see anything disgusting in that statement.
Killjoy-NL
Member
It's like saying "a shot was fired, but it wasn't my intention to hurt anyone"
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StueyDuck
Member
but you say that is incriminating. So if you were in court for a police officer whose weapon was accidentally discharged. your instant response is guilty? no chance that shot could have just purely be a wildly coincidental accident at all?
Killjoy-NL
Member
They were DMing, it wasn't a wildly coincidental accident now, was it?
It's like pointing the gun straight at the victim, discharging your weapon and claiming you didn't mean to.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
For me it's really quite simple.
Did he know that the girl was a minor?
Simple. Cut and Dry. I'll wait for more info.
Did he know that the girl was a minor?
Simple. Cut and Dry. I'll wait for more info.
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Killjoy-NL
Member
Thyuda
Member
So you must know what the DMs were, right?
Show us.
Edit: And no, that alone is neither disgusting nor sus, at least not for anyone outside this holier than thou internet bubble. Nobody in the real world cares.
Nobody.
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StueyDuck
Member
you're conflating the two different scenarios now.
no one suggests he did it accidentally, we just don't know what the nature of the messages were, all we know is that they are inappropriate. That could mean many things, these are legal statements, and you can't interpret them to mean anything more than the generic overall usage.
I am not suggesting these messages weren't sexual or explicit, I am saying without any actual information, I'm not going to raise my pitchfork and set his tower ablaze.
There have been just as many scenarios where accusations have been misrepresented and fabricated as there have been of actual wrongdoing.
The right thing to do as people who aren't involved in the case is to make a decision based on all the information and right now I don't think we have enough either way.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Why are you getting worked up over this then?
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Thyuda
Member
Don't divert, answer the question.
INC
Member
So for me, its all about intent and context
Example
friend is at a bar, my friend is 22. We've had a few drinks, a girl comes over to talk to him, she has a drink in hand and is talking about uni, what she's studying, he's flirting and joking with her.
The bar maid comes over, takes her drink, and asks for ID, she's 15.
Is my friend now a peado for assuming? To him she looked 19-20, was talking about uni (over 18 to attend), is drinking alcohol.
Was he saying inappropriate shit, sure it was flirty banter, with someone he assumed was alot older. But once he knew, he noped out the situation, and had a life lesson. Is he a creep/predator now, just for being in that situation?
Now once he knew and carried on, the yeh case closed for me
It's intent and context for me.
(Obviously this isn't exactly the dame as this situation, but it's the same outline)
Killjoy-NL
Member
I don't necessarily disagree with you. Just saying that specific sentence is sus af.
Completely unnecessary.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Already stated it above.
I regard that single sentence I highlighted as admission, no matter how the judicial system works.
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Thyuda
Member
That's... Insane. Absolutely insane.
But you do you, not gonna bother with you anymore, sorry.
StueyDuck
Member
and I'm not saying he isn't sus as fuck.
Just with what we have, I don't know if I'm willing to paint the "He's a pedo" picture just yet.
Dude walked into an occupied male public bathroom at a convention while live-streaming, needless to say, he's not the brightest spark. The thing about idiots is that they are pretty oblivious. unfortunately, i know older women whose whole deal is fucked up sex memes and making quite frankly stupid sex jokes (yes I know what you are thinking and yes they are on the large side), the idea of kids growing up on social media having that same sense of humor isn't out of the realm of possibility. So I could see a stupid person being lured into a friendship like that being completely dumb to the fact that it is completely off-limits and stupid to have a relationship like that with someone who isn't over 18. (Again we don't even know the gender of this individual, we are all just assuming it's a girl).
that's why we need to see the conversations, see his actual intent.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I would hope with how crafted his statement was that if he didn't know they were a minor he would have made that clear or if when he found out then the inappropriate DMs stopped
Remember just a couple of days ago we were at the stage nothing wrong had happened, this isn't over
His sponsors and his friends dropped him and they likely have more info than we do, LIKELY
STARSBarry
Gold Member
So when is doc announcing his next project?
FunkMiller
Member
Disrespect's statement makes no attempt to claim he did not know the person was a minor, which he would have done for sure, if it was a case of mistaking their age. It's a decent defence to put up, as you rightly say.
'I knew they were a minor and I sent the messages anyway' is a smoking gun, no matter which way you cut it.
INC
Member
Yeh exactly my point
Toots
Gold Member
So he did admit to chatting a minor, what a cunt...
I liked his 80's villain persona and would have never thought he'd do this type of shit...
Can't pedos find a line of work other than entertainement ? It's getting difficult to like anything nowdays...
FunkMiller
Member
The fact he edited the word 'minor' in and out of the tweet is hilarious.
Killjoy-NL
Member
That's just dumb. Lol
INC
Member
rickybooby87
Member
Sure. But, I’m talking about their actions once they knew.
FunkMiller
Member
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Why is anyone still trying to defend this guy?
If he never sexted a minor he would've said it already. It's clear he did, lmao. This could be over if he wanted already.
If he never sexted a minor he would've said it already. It's clear he did, lmao. This could be over if he wanted already.
King Dazzar
Member
I've only be following this very loosely. No thoughts either way on DrDisrespects career - he was always just an amusing weirdo/distraction to me with a 70's porn star tache.
Age of consent is 16 here in the UK. And a minor someone younger than 18. Abusing positions of power/influence is a no no for sure. And its good/right that people stand up for that. But on the other side, is everyone here saying that under no way, shape or form would they ever flirt with a potentially hot 17 yr old? Yeah I'm not convinced.
I'm careful with judging too harshly and quickly, especially when, to the best of my knowledge. No full conversations have been disclosed and the extent of wrong doing established.
Age of consent is 16 here in the UK. And a minor someone younger than 18. Abusing positions of power/influence is a no no for sure. And its good/right that people stand up for that. But on the other side, is everyone here saying that under no way, shape or form would they ever flirt with a potentially hot 17 yr old? Yeah I'm not convinced.
I'm careful with judging too harshly and quickly, especially when, to the best of my knowledge. No full conversations have been disclosed and the extent of wrong doing established.
StueyDuck
Member
The reason i post this video is because "denial" doesn't mean anything.
There will be a legal reason why he is or isn't saying what he is saying, the same goes for the Twitch accusers and the lack of any response from the victim or their parents.
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delirium trigger
Member
They don't give a shit about the girl, lol.
demigod
Member
Hook me up.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Become worth about 50 million and come visit and we will pick you out one, kind of like a buffet of sorts
DrFigs
Member
Idk if 17 yo is legal in whatever state Dr. Disrespect is in, but like the accusations made it seem much worse. like drake was accused of worse and i think he'll be fine too.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
We don't know for certain their age or even their sex at this point, yet
yansolo
Member
sure, but in this case he admitted it, if this was a guy in your neighbourhood would you want anything to do with him?
FunkMiller
Member
This is an important point. The kid being 17 has not been confirmed.
Thyuda
Member
It's fake outrage for the fakest society on the planet, the US.
JMZ555
Member
Doc is fucked and he only got himself to blame.
Unless he releases the chat log (cant see that happening) which shows he didn't know person was a minor and shows he wasn't sexting then he is done for good.
Anybody in his position would categorically say they didn't know they was a minor, the fact he didn't says a lot.
Unless he releases the chat log (cant see that happening) which shows he didn't know person was a minor and shows he wasn't sexting then he is done for good.
Anybody in his position would categorically say they didn't know they was a minor, the fact he didn't says a lot.
FewRope
Member
Truly insane he did edited out the minor part and later added it again lmao
Majukun
Member
if he didn't, that would have been part of his explanation of the facts
too big of a difference to not address it
Bernardougf
Member
He did say he didnt, and it is over since he won his case in a court of law, having to obviously show the messages, to sue twitch and he won. Dont know how people are ignoring this fact.
What you are seeing here is the internet mob mentality, virtue signaling and white knighting, by a bunch o dudes that later tonight will type "hot asian teens been fucked by octopus" and jerk off until sunrise.
Thyuda
Member
Because people want to believe whatever they want to believe.
And if there's evidence suggesting otherwise they either ignore it or try to argue around it.
Or they try to pin it on "morality", which is even more hilarious.
No he's saying the fact that he said "were there intentions behind those messages" makes it pretty clear that they weren't relating to "yeah, I assfucked that guy in that one match yesterday". He was sending likely sexual messages "without intentions".
Topher
Gold Member
Court of law? I thought this was handled internally with Twitch as there was no crime committed.
FunkMiller
Member
Given he's made a clear public statement on social media, he could now easily clear this up by releasing the transcript of the conversation. If it is as innocent as he claims, then this would exonerate him completely. Surely that would be better than risking his career by allowing people to think the worst. He would also show Twitch up if he did that. It's a win win for him.
What's your reasoning for him not doing this?
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