BacklashWave534
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Out of curiosity what was your take on his explanation? Curious to know if you thought he was telling the truth.
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DrDisrespect permanently banned from Twitch [Now Streaming on YouTube]
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Out of curiosity what was your take on his explanation? Curious to know if you thought he was telling the truth.
Stooky
Member
Did twitch pay him to go away or was it breach of contract and twitch had to pay up? im asking because i don't know. If it was breach of contract and it makes twitch look bad and the comments make Doc look bad then i can see how both sides are gagged. The aftermath is no side was able to say anything. only reason we know anything is because it was leaked. If it was bad as people make it sound in all the other cases we know about said company would have made a public statement about and the state attorney would have pressed chargers, at the minimum a civil trail from the accuser. Feds would have raided his house it would be a full investigation. None of that has happened. Im leaning towards this is bs.
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rickybooby87
Member
I think it was done through arbitration as outlined in their TOS, more than likely, odds are, Twitch didn't win that arbitration. Which is interesting if if Twitch did lose, as arbitration, apparently it's easier to admit evidence and a whole host of other things. What I am trying to say, is that, it would be so dang easy to prove he was sexting a minor, thus violating the TOS and voiding his contract as a result.
That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.
Calverz
Member
Topher
Gold Member
Law enforcement was not involved.
I think he told the truth the first time.
MostlyPeaceful
Banned
I’m not “worshipping” anybody.
“Inappropriate” as a term can mean a lot of things, and does not have to be sexual in nature.
If you were standing at a bus stop in the middle of a city sidewalk, and suddenly a group of 16-18 year old high school boys come along, cracking raunchy jokes and being loud and vulgar, and you decide to join in and share a raunchy, inappropriate joke with the group yourself
Are you now suddenly a “piece of shit” - because technically, you’ve now “inappropriately” spoken to a group of “minors”?
I’m not saying that that’s the level of innocuousness we’re talking about here when it comes to Doc - but I’m merely pointing out how perception can be warped by the masses because they see certain words or read into things without any context or evidence at all.
At this juncture, there’s no reason or proof that’s been provided to believe that Dr Disrespect is a “pedophile”, yet that’s what the entirety of the twitter mob has been calling him for 3 months. Look up the definition of pedophile and get back at me. Words have completely lost their meaning in 2024.
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Branded
Member
When Doc repeated the messages were not sexual, sexting, or anything illegal. He states that twitch admitted the whispers were not inappropriate. And even says the whispers were only banter about the industry. Yet some of y’all still believe Cody Connor’s. The guy who was trying to sell tickets to his concert.
finalflame
Member
Grown, married men shouldn’t be sending “borderline” inappropriate messages to underage KIDS only able to consent in “some” states. It’s not illegal but is immoral.
If you disagree you’re a piece of shit, and retarded. Full stop.
If you disagree you’re a piece of shit, and retarded. Full stop.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Basically, what people are trying to do with the Fandom Menace now. Spam YouTube Partners about the channel and sending the cancel mob stuff to them. Right after all that stuff happened and people were mass reporting my channel with the screen captures being shared on Twitter, they demonized it with a generic "violated Partner policies" excuse.
Are you sure you didn’t just violate partner policies…
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Exactly. I really don’t care at the end of the day. Once I get in my car and head home, I won’t think about the Doc until I see the thread updated on 9/25.
That’s not necessarily true though. Again, maybe Twitch ran a risk assessment and found it easier to pay the guy out than drag it out.
Topher
Gold Member
It is all the same. Twitch wanted him gone and so they banned him. They signed him to a contract and the arbitration was clearly trying to negotiate as little as possible to pay him. Either way, they were paying him to go away for reasons. Part of arbitration is keeping everything quiet. The ex-Twitch employee ruined that for both sides.
Yeah, that's why I don't think he did anything illegal here. Just enough that Twitch wanted nothing to do with him. We will probably never see the messages, but I just have a feeling that if we did, we would probably understand why Twitch was willing to forego millions.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Didn't break any rules. Just uploaded a video version of my podcast, ~20-30 min videos of me talking into a camera. Never had a copyright strike or anything on the channel. Didn't repost stuff like trailers (which YouTube hits) or anything like that. 10K subs. Was making $500-$1000 on it depending on the month. They gave a generic response citing policy violations against their community guidelines. Their email said I could delete any videos that had restrictions that violated policies, but out of 200 videos on the channel absolutely 0 are flagged or have any sort of restriction. It was completely brigaded back then.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
That’s unfortunate and sounds unreasonable on their part, but you didn’t get demonetized for posting on GAF. Maybe for having enemies online who abused the reporting system, then.
Stooky
Member
Twitch didn't hold all the cards thats for sure. Twitch doesn't ever want to pay out because they lose money. Paying him to go away vs suing for breach of contract is not the same thing. Twitch could break ties him make statement we don't condone this activity etc, like hollywood does all the time. Drop him or pay out reminder of contract. Twitch still comes out looking like a hero. But that didn't happen.
I think twitch fucked up because the person isn't a minor and Doc doesn't want those comments released. both agreed to a clean break.
Topher
Gold Member
Technically correct. Twitch didn't want to pay him, but they wanted him to go away. Thus, the lawsuit. The point remains, Twitch wanted him gone even though he broke no laws. Whatever he said in those messages, Twitch thought it was enough to part ways with an extremely lucrative partner.
Timberwolf25
Member
What if in a plot twist noone saw coming, Twitch allows him back on their platform?
This narrative doesn't sit well with me because Twitch has never been historically consistent with bans. There are a lot of popular streamers that violate ToS and have never been banned, and when you say things like this it just paints Twitch out to be ethically just in their reviews, which just isn't true. It could equally be argued that whoever sanctioned the ban, could've done so prematurely, and not having all the facts at hand. They get sued, and settle.
proandrad
Member
It's my understanding that the person he was sending messages to wasn't a minor and the internet jumped to conclusions.
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MostlyPeaceful
Banned
I'm quite sure at this point that neither party is even remotely interested in a reunion, however funny that would be.
It's no secret that Twitch employees hated Doc because he represented everything they're not, so the moment they found any sort of dirt on him at all, they hastily and hypocritically jumped on it without doing any sort of due diligence or giving it a second thought - and in the end, they were clearly in the wrong for doing so.
buenoblue
Member
He admitted to inappropriately texting a minor in his first statement I don't know what else people want. A 40year old guy in a position of power admitting to inappropriately texting a minor is creepy as fuck and he deserves to lose his sponsors and monetization.
How many minors have people here texted inappropriately? You just wouldn't do it it's weirdo shit.
Portugeezer
Member
The definitely didn't like him. It's crazy how in this video Dr Disrespect lists 3 worse accounts in which those people got "multi million" dollar contracts with twitch.
buenoblue
Member
But he admitted to inappropriately texting a minor in his OWN STATEMENT
WTF is going on
MostlyPeaceful
Banned
And what if the "inappropriate" messages weren't sexual in nature?
Topher
Gold Member
If that's how you wish to view then that's fine. I'm not suggesting Twitch is "ethically just" in anything. I have no basis for an opinion on that. I'm stating the simple fact that they wanted him to go away. I don't see how that is a controversial statement in any way.
Yeah, maybe he texted them links to pirated Nintendo ROMs.
MostlyPeaceful
Banned
I'm not sitting here saying the messages weren't sexual in nature.
I’m asking, what if they weren’t? And what if the person wasn’t actually a minor, as the guy claimed today in his statement. Would that not change anything about this case? Would he still be a “piece of shit pedo”?
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Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Man he could easily put it all to rest to just show the DMs or some of them even.
His response of “what are we in 2nd grade?” To people asking for them is so dumb.
At this point whatever was actually said is far likely less worse than the mystery and people assuming it’s really fucked up shit.
He could’ve:
-Showed some or all logs
-Dodged and said the person in question doesn’t want to have it shared due to privacy concerns
-Done this not in Doc get up
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Based off his info though the person wasn’t a minor at the time this all went down though? Seems like who gives a shit what he said then if true.
His response of “what are we in 2nd grade?” To people asking for them is so dumb.
At this point whatever was actually said is far likely less worse than the mystery and people assuming it’s really fucked up shit.
He could’ve:
-Showed some or all logs
-Dodged and said the person in question doesn’t want to have it shared due to privacy concerns
-Done this not in Doc get up
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Based off his info though the person wasn’t a minor at the time this all went down though? Seems like who gives a shit what he said then if true.
I didn't say you said anything controversial. I'm just pointing something out in regard to Twitch bans in general.
ManaByte
Gold Member
It’s been shut down for years.
CityHunter1981
Member
Why would he now say, he is innocent after already admitted that he did it, but was not serious about it.
That guy is clearly guilty and the way he behaves just make the whole thing worse.
That guy is clearly guilty and the way he behaves just make the whole thing worse.
vpance
Member
Minor by definition of the investigating agencies (under 18) but above the age of consent wherever this person was. So likely 16 or 17
He didn't admit to sexting a minor or planning to meet them. He's original tweet comes across as an admission of guilt without a doubt. He admits to the whispers occurring, and the conversation leaning towards inappropriate. There really is only one way to interpret all of that. But he never admitted to any wrong doing at any point. What he is saying now is basically doubling down on not sexting the user, and denies planning to meet them. He also states that they were over the age of consent. He contextualizes he's use of the word inappropriate as inappropriate jokes, which honestly could mean anything. This whole thing has been a bit of a mindfuck. I think he is a shady guy, and he's past infidelity has been documented. I just don't think there is enough here to say with certainty. I feel like I can counter argue every point I make against him. He is a weird guy regardless though.
poopchad420
Neo Member
Is he entering a DarkDoctor timeline or will he change his persona to DrRespect?
DerivedDataCache
Member
Wtf did I just read.
DerivedDataCache
Member
I think he always had a target on his back because he's not politically correct.
Like in this clip:
This was in H1Z1. The Battle Royale game before PUBG.
Nowadays you probably get banned for jokes like this.
DAHGAMING
Member
Always thought this geeza was a helmet, now with that boat vid and him chatting shit about the lawsuit it just shows us more and more what a wrong'un he is. Whatever the age of the person he was messaging its still fucked up, hes ment to be married. Nonce cunt.
Also got me thinking, i bet some of you dirty fuckers send some right nasty sexts to each other on here.
Also got me thinking, i bet some of you dirty fuckers send some right nasty sexts to each other on here.
PSlayer
Member
He likely didn't do anything illegal. My personal theory is that some high school jailbait approached him via twitch with the usual "i'm a huge fan doc...blablabla" and Doc tried to convice her to meet on a fan event where the actual illegal stuff would happen.
Technically nothing wrong but sus as fuck.
MayauMiao
Member
Never head of this joke and its pretty funny. The world need more comedy like this to get its balls back.
Ceadeus
Gold Member
You're better than that Draugoth, come on.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
ChorizoPicozo
Gold Member
where are the messages?!
