Completely missing my point. If I'm going to be stuck with no-second hand sales, I'd rather be stuck with the best platform for it.
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EDGE: The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray and new kinect
- Thread starter Hanmik
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Completely missing my point. If I'm going to be stuck with no-second hand sales, I'd rather be stuck with the best platform for it.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
gutter_trash
Banned
sharing accounts? credit card info... uh no
Aquamarine
Member
He didn't deny any of those "negative rumors," though. :-(
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There will come a time when one cannot find new copies of the nextgen games. What then is the answer to playing them? Trying to search for the original fabled console that was linked to that used disc?
The digital issue is even greater IMO: we have already seen how fast game content/support is pulled during this gen(look how fast EA content goes down, XBLA games, etc), what's to say nextgen will be any better? If you honestly think that your digital console content will be playable X years in the future, you'd better go read the back of those DLC fliers in the current gen packaging("content code good until Y date, upon which it will no longer be supported").
jetsetfluken
Member
If you read the last part of the post I mentioned that it is -not- just to due with achievemnt manipulation, but manipulation of many other elements as a whole (entire profile editing, pirating, etc).
And even if I -was- primarily talking about achievements, then so what? It's become a major feature and you're damn right it needs to have no holes in the system if MS wants the feature to be taken seriously again. It's a major feature among the "check boxes" differentiating the "HD twins" from the rest.
Game devs dont deserve money from 2nd hand sales. Same goes for CD music, DVD/Bluray discs, console hardware, console accessories, PC hardware, television sets, speakers, house appliances, houses, cars, ...
End of the story.
This, times a million.
Although I'm not touching a system that blocks used games just out of principle. I've argued against the profit distribution of used game sales before, but removing the option of used/borrowed games entirely, to the point of not even allowing you to lend your physical copy YOUR PHYSICAL FUCKING COPY THAT YOU BOUGHT IN A STORE LIKE ANY OTHER PRODUCT IN THE WORLD to a friend is completely ridiculous and something I can never endorse. Well, maybe when the system is $150 and I can play through a backlog of console exclusives I can pick up for $10-20 a piece from developers that have gone out of business because Microsoft killed the console market. So, it's something I can live with, eventually, but not something I would ever actively support.
First party would defend its company, yep.
Heh. Interesting indeed. Can't wait until MS starts coming out and saying some official shit about the console.
Forced to, likely.
If EA and ActiBlizz says "MS is curbing second hand sales, you have to or we are out" what would sony do? Shrug it off?
Call of Duty, Madden, NHL and FIFA
There's North American and European market, right there.
Tyrone_Biggums
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NDA*
SteveWinwood
Member
If I can download Last Of Us for 5 dollars after waiting a year, I'm all for it.
Before then it won't be anything like Steam for tons of reasons.
scar tissue
Banned
I'm curious if Nextgen will be the end of piracy. With 50GB blurays becoming the norm, I don't think rapidshare and bittorrent will be popular any more. Add the price of a bluray writer plus blank blurays, and I think most cheap people will resort to waiting for the bargain bin again.
SlipperyMoose
Member
While interesting to read, I'm not taking any of these rumors (PS4 or Xbox 3) seriously until the official announcements. There is just no way of knowing and it is pointless to get worked up about.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Again, no reliable source has reported this about Sony's system recently. When that happens, we'll have that conversation, too.
LyleLanley
Banned
If he knows the truth, which he may not, I'm certain that he wouldn't be able to say so without breaking his NDA.
FunnyBunny
Member
Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo have a lot at stake this generation.
I do not put it past any of them to taint the well for their competitors.
Oh, we're doing this again, are we? Listening to rumours that one platform holder is going to end used games entirely? Like we do every time a new console is coming out?
... Joke post?
Yes I suck at photoshop, but its good enough to get the point across
... Joke post?
Exactly. It's unfathomable, but that hasn't stopped companies from doing stupid things in the past.
And about the always online thing. Let's say that little Johnny wants to spend a week at Grandma's house over the summer, but she doesn't have internet access. So this would mean that he couldn't take his console with him to play (because let's face it, Grandma's house is boring). So instead he has to spend a week listening to Paul Harvey reruns and watching The Waltons.
EdwardTivrusky
Member
All these negative rumours have come at an interesting time, eh?
Sony Ninja's are going for subterfuge?! Industrial Espionage!
... or is it Nintendo? They always looked suspicious off in the corner doing their own thing.
Damn them
And confirm the existence of the next Xbox? I don't think so, bro.
Vita was the last handheld with no region locking and watch how it was rewarded.
thehillissilent
Member
They will probably just implement an OnLine Pass for every game now. There will probably still be a used game market, but you will have to buy an online pass to activate the game. Hopefully, games will only be linked to your account and have a version of steam guard if you have multiple consoles.
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
So how many of you will buy a nintendo console if both sony and microsoft implement these policies?
Would the surge in return to nintendo by core gamers cause a surge in third party support?
Would the surge in return to nintendo by core gamers cause a surge in third party support?
Baron_Calamity
Member
Yeah, if the trade off is steam like holiday sales, I could get behind it. Honestly if a game system and a game doesn't have a whack control scheme, I will put up with BS to play it. Not defending it, just knowing myself.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Neither person denied it.
DimmuBurgerKing
Member
Don't act dumb. If the new generation consoles go that route, then at least PC has the attractive advantage of better graphics and free online. The latter point assumes MS continue to charge for online gaming, but it's working for them so far.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
Ah yes, always online. As someone who was there during Diablo 3 early days. How can this go wrong! There's nothing like not being able to play your single player games without an internet connection.
legacyzero
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If anything, I would say that if these rumors were true then first parties wouldn't say anything at all in the interest of not giving out any information before MS does.
Glorified G
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but the x files is not about corporate ballwashers
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As with all rumors, sometimes what you get are half-truths. Using simple logic...
-Blu-ray is in.
-Kinect 2.0 will be ready at launch or soon thereafter but not as a pack-in with the base SKU. Maybe with a premium SKU.
-"Always online" simply means that the online only features, which will be more prominent next gen, won't be available so users will be missing out w/out an internet connection. Still, games *will work* w/out a connection.
-Will ps4/720 have bar code readers built in and non-used capabilities built in? probably, *but* I think they will leave it up to publishers on how to utilize it. Most likely we will see online passes linked to new discs, with a fee for used purchasers just like it is now. Neither company will dare make it mandatory. That will happen the following gen when things go 95% digital download.
Calm. down.
-Blu-ray is in.
-Kinect 2.0 will be ready at launch or soon thereafter but not as a pack-in with the base SKU. Maybe with a premium SKU.
-"Always online" simply means that the online only features, which will be more prominent next gen, won't be available so users will be missing out w/out an internet connection. Still, games *will work* w/out a connection.
-Will ps4/720 have bar code readers built in and non-used capabilities built in? probably, *but* I think they will leave it up to publishers on how to utilize it. Most likely we will see online passes linked to new discs, with a fee for used purchasers just like it is now. Neither company will dare make it mandatory. That will happen the following gen when things go 95% digital download.
Calm. down.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
I guess I am used to steam and iOS, but the no used games is a thing I could get used too. Hell, I buy alot of xbla/psn stuff already I can't resell.
The always online thing sucks to me though.
The always online thing sucks to me though.
AHHH He mentions The X-files!!! The Truth Is Out There!!!!!
Exactly i dont believe one would do it if the other doesnt, they would basically be conceding the market to the other
Uno Venova
Banned
All these negative rumours have come at an interesting time, eh?
EDGE partnership with Sony....confirmed?
They could just say they have no plans of ever implementing such a policy.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
We've had those patents all the way back to the PS2, no?
It's mainly due to the fact they file patents and never use them. Especially all of the early move ones.
I think they will be anti used games too but it wouldn't surprise me if they weren't.
Are they allowed to confirm or deny rumors based on an as yet unannounced console?
No we didnt.
We did miss the one where a major industry website announces that the PS4 will restrict used games.
Like the one for the new xbox today.