I agree with you, but this "interfering with play" rule is incredibly vague, the definition and extent as to what constitutes "interference" varies wildly, and it's a rule that for some reason has gone out of fashion in the last few years.
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Euro 2012 |OT2| of Spain celebrating victory with younger, mixed gender squad
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I agree with you, but this "interfering with play" rule is incredibly vague, the definition and extent as to what constitutes "interference" varies wildly, and it's a rule that for some reason has gone out of fashion in the last few years.
I don't agree.
Why? Not because Iniesta passes to Navas, but because he can pass to Navas. The first situation with the ball over to Iniesta alters the reaction from the Croats. If Iniesta was there on his own, the keeper would've come straight out. Since Navas was there the keeper held back. Navas was there because he was offside.
It's a grey area.
Gee that's OK then.
immortal-joe
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Spain's best player since 2008 is unquestionably, unequivocally them man standing between the posts.
When you keep having slim wins, and your opponent still gets shots on goal, it means your ass is being saved by the goalie.
I agree, it's the same situation as the first danish goal from Bendtner against portugal. Navas is "passively" offside on the first pass. Passive offside is allowed, it's stupid imo.
FootballFan
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Even if he was 10 metres offside when the ball went to Iniesta it wouldn't matter.. He didn't interfere with play. The only thing that mattered was if he was onside when Iniesta released the ball to him. And he was onside at that moment.
It's definitely a penalty. It's not pushing or shirt tugging before the corner's taken, when Corluka jumps Busquets pulls his arm. How does that not affect his position?
I agree, it´s like Guardiola is controlling everything from the stands... hate this fucking style of football.
Only thing that could make this Spanish team more annoying to watch is if Daniel Alves played for Spain.
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The Friendly Monster
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Ok I've read the rules and concede I'm wrong on this. The goal was fine.
I don't like it but there it is.
If anyone is interested check page 108 of the laws of the game for this exact situation.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf
Broder Salsa
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Isn't it the same fucking thing? Just most of England saw it first with Poznan for some reason. It has been done for so fucking many years now, it pains me a little whenever someone sees Copenhagen do it and then says they got it from City.
I can't recall a single scenario where a goal was disallowed on a similar play in national or EPL play.
Spain didn't play that well in their WC and still managed to win teetering on the edge.. They were better in Euro 08. They haven't played great so far, either. They really do miss Villa, although he was a little inconsistent last time around - partially due to VdB's obsession with sitting him on the left side instead of along at the top more often than not.
We'll see. I think Spain is capable of going off at any moment, as they did against Ireland.
Spain didn't play that well in their WC and still managed to win teetering on the edge.. They were better in Euro 08. They haven't played great so far, either. They really do miss Villa, although he was a little inconsistent last time around - partially due to VdB's obsession with sitting him on the left side instead of along at the top more often than not.
We'll see. I think Spain is capable of going off at any moment, as they did against Ireland.
Baconsaurus Rex
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This isn't really Given's season is it. Every shot on goal could've easily gone in looking at that shoddy goalkeeping.
Metalmurphy
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Spain cheating is nothing new.
Johnny Cage In The Shower
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Ugh... Dirty bastard!
A German ref would never give a penalty against Spain in a game like this.
Broder Salsa
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Wow, good man. Props for conceding the point.
Funky Papa
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That was moronic as fuck, I concede.
Portugal fans should just shut their yappers.
They've won the last two major tournaments, people don't like seeing teams grab consecutive titles..
Wow I somehow missed this
Not interfering with play. Scroll down further, it's more interfering with an opponent. Navas being offside affects the keeper's actions.
Yep, clearly onside on the second one. I figured since he was offside initially, he wouldn't be eligible so soon thereafter but obviously not. Nice awareness by Iniesta.
Busquets wanted Italy out. xDD
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Im not saying its not a foul, Im saying for a corner kick it needs to be a whole lot more severe than that if you want it to be called. Especially looking at the replay the Croatian player had to jump back to reach the ball, which he managed to do.
Im 100% positive that if you look at the 10 corner kicks Spain took this game, youll find much worse fouls taking place ... And thats OK. Happens all the time.
Dance Inferno
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Did you watch their matches in the World Cup? Literally some of the most boring, uneventful matches in the entire tournament. That's where the Spain hate comes from.
SunhiLegend
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Guardiola's Barcelona play a different style than Spain. They have Messi and their play is much more appealing to watch.
"Not interfering with an opponent" is the key phrase there, which in this case makes it a good decision.
Should have been a penalty for sure.
But fuck anyone that acts like you don't get jersey tugging from every single club and nation.
And they play 'Beautiful' football...
The Friendly Monster
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That's the way I think the rules should be too, there's no excuse for being offside. Unfortunately FIFA don't agree, read page 108 of the rules and it describes this exact situation.
Baconsaurus Rex
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Does anybody have an idea what Balotelli was saying during his celebration? Wonder why Bonucci was trying to shut Balotelli up/covering his mouth.
lol dude. No.
Sickboy007
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Should have been a penalty for sure.
But fuck anyone that acts like you don't get jersey tugging from every single club and nation.
Yep
Sorry I disagree. The reason he's jumped back to reach the ball is because Busquets is twisting him away from it.
Probably something in response to all the racism that opposing fans have hurled at him?
Metalmurphy
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Should have been a penalty for sure.
But fuck anyone that acts like you don't get jersey tugging from every single club and nation.
They passed a knock off stage with an offside goal on the WW, and now this... Best team in the world for sure!
And they have Messi
Giving the manager shite for having the audacity to criticise him.
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