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Evans not proud of the Fantastic Four movies, decling Cap would have been a mistake.

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Slayven

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https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/chris-evans-admits-fantastic-four-regrets-165200362.html

Speaking to the Toronto Sun, Evans chose his words carefully:

"Those Fantastic Four movies… how do you say this correctly? This is where interviews get tricky.

"If you're going to get locked up in a long-term contract, you've got to make sure the movies you're making are movies you'll be proud of. With a lot of movies I've made, I've had something to question."

"And the 'Fantastic Four' was a three-movie deal (though only two were ever made). 'Captain America' was a six-picture contract (counting three Avengers movies). And Robert Downey Jr. had already set the tone with the 'Iron Man' movies, there already was a following. So those six movies were for real."

This is, I think, an entirely reasonable position. Most fans seem to agree that the two Tim Story-directed 'Fantastic Four' movies completely failed to do justice to the source material; the casting of Evans as the Human Torch and Michael Chilkis as The Thing were just about the only things most agree they got right.
Nice way not to shit on Fox.
 
He was the only thing I thought they nailed while watching the movies. Actually they did pretty well with Thing too. Thaaaats about all I have good to say about those movies lol.

to be fair cap 1 isn't much better

I will fight you with a garbage can lid.
 
I'd love for there to be a Fantastic Four movie that was 100% faithful to the original Jack Kirby comics, but I think I'd be one of the only people who actually likes it.
 

Rookje

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I feel Evans wants to be something he's not, based on reading his personal interviews (GQ, Esquire, Hollywood). He's not going to be cast in movies like Gosling, Leo, Joaquin get. He's not that great of an actor, and his dudebro persona typecasts him into those kind of roles. At one point he made an effort not to do any movie with sex scenes or where he'd take his shirt off because his agent said that would help make him be taken seriously as an actor. The industry practically begged him to be Captain America, but he kept saying no because he wants more serious roles. He eventually agreed, and now based off his use of words and body language he likely regrets it.
 
Cap 1 was extremely forgettable. I don't even remember what Hydra/Red Skull's main plan was, let alone how Cap undid it.

That said it's better than either FF film.
 

Replicant

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I disagree.

His character in FF was the saving grace of that film. Without his character the film would have been a complete bore.

I feel Evans wants to be something he's not, based on reading his personal interviews (GQ, Esquire, Hollywood). He's not going to be cast in movies like Gosling, Leo, Joaquin get. He's not that great of an actor, and his dudebro persona typecasts him into those kind of roles. At one point he made an effort not to do any movie with sex scenes or where he'd take his shirt off because his agent said that would help make him be taken seriously as an actor. The industry practically begged him to be Captain America, but he kept saying no because he wants more serious roles. He eventually agreed, and now based off his use of words and body language he likely regrets it.

"Sunshine" and "Snowpiercer" dispel this. He can act if he is given the right material. And I don't think it's unusual for an actor to want a more challenging role. Just because you have been pigeon-holed by Hollywood, it doesn't mean you shouldn't fight against it. Look at Matthew McConaughey. Who'd thunk he'd be considered as a serious actor back then? I'd say you're crazy if you said this even 2 years ago.
 
I'd rather watch Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer than watch Captain America again. They're both bottom rung movies though.

Both movies were on yesterday.

Holy shit, Silver Surfer is atrocious. Absolutely atrocious. Those two movies are on different planes. I know, differing opinions and all that but Christ.
 

Slayven

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Just make a doctor doom movie about Viktor doing some doctor doom shit


Isn't that what we all want

HSOGmUF.jpg
 

Goldrush

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The two movies might have been horrible, but I'm sure Evans gained a lot of fans through it. He was in a lot better movies, but I don't think he would have the name recognition to be cast as Captain America without the Fantastic Four movies.
 
I agree that Silver Surfer is mind-bogglingly terrible, but I really do believe Captain America is atrocious-er.

Captain America had Howard Stark providing the required dose of humor, intelligence and charisma that superhero movies need to move an otherwise stupid plot and premise along. FF only had Johnny Blaze and the best they could do with him was make him half of the Odd Couple with Ben Grimm and it did nothing for the plot. I gotta side with Cap on the entertainment value.
 
his rendition as Johnny Storm (Human Torch) is better than his Steve Rogers (Cap).

Fantastic Four 2005 is superior than to the Avengers infomercial
 

kirblar

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I feel Evans wants to be something he's not, based on reading his personal interviews (GQ, Esquire, Hollywood). He's not going to be cast in movies like Gosling, Leo, Joaquin get. He's not that great of an actor, and his dudebro persona typecasts him into those kind of roles. At one point he made an effort not to do any movie with sex scenes or where he'd take his shirt off because his agent said that would help make him be taken seriously as an actor. The industry practically begged him to be Captain America, but he kept saying no because he wants more serious roles. He eventually agreed, and now based off his use of words and body language he likely regrets it.
He actually wants to shift to directing after the Marvel stuff is done.
 
I don't see how that's a defensible stance. At its worst, Captain America is merely adequate. Silver Surfer is actively embarrassing to watch.

I was cringing fairly actively at the 90 minutes of static stupid bravado, sappy, corny emotions played up like some terrible war drama, and an almost complete lack of plot until maybe three-fourths of the way into the movie. Not to mention how there's almost no action in a goddamn action movie, aside from a tensionless montage and some paltry CGI. I'm trying not to devolve into hyperbole here, but it really is a terrible film.

I'm certainly not defending Silver Surfer here. It's awful. I just really hated the Captain America film.
 

~Devil Trigger~

In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
I still cannot understand how anyone can use the worsd garbade to describe Cap1

The movie was great, solid/accurate introduction to the hero, awesome and fitting visual style going well with the time period the film takes place.

It was awesome, one of the best Superhero movies out there
 

Slayven

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ain't ready for a movie featuring a main character doing mostly awful stuff

or

ain't ready for a movie featuring a main character of Eastern European origin?

you don't have to answer this

For fucking awesome the Books of Doom are. Doom giving a speech as a toddler that shames an entire village? Making freeze rays using watching making tools?
 

BLACKLAC

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I still cannot understand how anyone can use the worsd garbade to describe Cap1

The movie was great, solid/accurate introduction to the hero, awesome and fitting visual style going well with the time period the film takes place.

It was awesome, one of the best Superhero movies out there

And a great supporting cast.

Agreed.
 

Sojgat

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Didn't hate the first FF, mainly because of Evans and Chiklis.

He's just so perfect as both Johnny Storm and as Steve Rogers. Apart from being blonde haired, white guy super heroes, they couldn't be more different characters.

Also, Captain America: The First Avenger is a great movie, right up until the two minute action montage, where it skips over all the good stuff you've been waiting the entire time to watch.
 
I still cannot understand how anyone can use the worsd garbade to describe Cap1

The movie was great, solid/accurate introduction to the hero, awesome and fitting visual style going well with the time period the film takes place.

It was awesome, one of the best Superhero movies out there
Agreed. It was my personal most enjoyable Marvel movie up to that point. Maybe tied with Thor.
 

zoozilla

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"Sunshine" and "Snowpiercer" dispel this. He can act if he is given the right material. And I don't think it's unusual for an actor to want a more challenging role. Just because you have been pigeon-holed by Hollywood, it doesn't mean you shouldn't fight against it. Look at Matthew McConaughey. Who'd thunk he'd be considered as a serious actor back then? I'd say you're crazy if you said this even 2 years ago.

To be fair, before he did all those crappy rom-coms McConaughey was actually considered a 'serious actor.' In fact, I think he was called 'the next Paul Newman' back in the 90s.

And I haven't seen Snowpiercer, but I don't remember thinking Evans was great in Sunshine. He didn't even have that big of a role, did he?

I wish him all the luck with directing, and I'm pretty interested to see what he can do, but in terms of acting I think it'll be hard for him to move away from Cap.
 

Blader

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I feel Evans wants to be something he's not, based on reading his personal interviews (GQ, Esquire, Hollywood). He's not going to be cast in movies like Gosling, Leo, Joaquin get. He's not that great of an actor, and his dudebro persona typecasts him into those kind of roles. At one point he made an effort not to do any movie with sex scenes or where he'd take his shirt off because his agent said that would help make him be taken seriously as an actor. The industry practically begged him to be Captain America, but he kept saying no because he wants more serious roles. He eventually agreed, and now based off his use of words and body language he likely regrets it.

He doesn't really want to act, period. He wants to get into directing, which he's said he can now because of Cap.
 
Count me to the people who enjoyed Cap 1 and hated the FF movies.

For fucking awesome the Books of Doom are. Doom giving a speech as a toddler that shames an entire village? Making freeze rays using watching making tools?

so we agree

Even if Fox gave it a spin, I'm afraid they'd completely fuck it up though. :(
 

Parch

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The FF movies are not very interesting, but that's not unlike my opinion of the comics. I could never get into that group and they're not exactly Marvel's finest.
 
I don't really care what happens to the Fantastic Four in film anymore, honestly. I just want to see Avengers vs. Doom. But we can't always have nice things
 

OldRoutes

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Cap 1 was extremely forgettable. I don't even remember what Hydra/Red Skull's main plan was, let alone how Cap undid it.

That said it's better than either FF film.

But I think we do remember the iconic "origin" sequence, and the ending/start.

So, to me, it was a successful movie, much more than Iron Man 2 or Thor : The Dark World. Where I can't really recall anything but me "having fun" watching it.

But then perhaps that makes them good too.
 

- J - D -

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He shouldn't be proud of those movies but's not like they're something that he should be ashamed of. It's not his fault those movies were bad.

If his intention currently is to go into directing, it'd be a shame. I do think he's a good actor in dramatic roles. It's a shame then that nobody actually sees those movies of his. I guess him being a likable Steve Rogers is a good enough consolation prize, even though I'm not entirely a fan of Cap TFA. The first hour was good, but falls off after the montages start.
 

RS4-

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Didn't hate the first FF, mainly because of Evans and Chiklis.

He's just so perfect as both Johnny Storm and as Steve Rogers. Apart from being blonde haired, white guy super heroes, they couldn't be more different characters.

Also, Captain America: The First Avenger is a great movie, right up until the two minute action montage, where it skips over all the good stuff you've been waiting the entire time to watch.

Pretty much how I feel about FF and Cap 1. And Evans is a fine actor.
 

Grinchy

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I'd rather watch Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer than watch Captain America again. They're both bottom rung movies though.

Yep. I can't believe there are people who actually liked that first Captain America movie.

I'd rather watch The Love Guru twice in a row than watch 30 minutes of Captain America.
 
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