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Evans not proud of the Fantastic Four movies, decling Cap would have been a mistake.
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He's kinda bad in Snowpiercer. Maybe it's the dialogue and direction.
Are we forgetting about Ghost Rider?
Jeph Loeb happened. He wanted to take over with his own brand of Marvel animation.
I wish there was a bigger version of this. I need a new Facebook banner.
I can't believe there are people that can't believe there are people that.
crazy monkey
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Jessica alba was in it.
Extra Sauce
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It's funny, I much prefer the Captain America movies (well Cap 1 and Avengers so far) and yet I think the Human Torch was his better role. He was born to play that character and it's a real shame the movies around his performance were shitty.
Discotheque
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I don't think it's his fault so much as the script. Even Viggo or DDL couldn't be able to sell such a cheesy monologue like the one he gives to that Korean guy near the end
Same here. The period setting does it for me, they nailed it.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I never thought the FF films were half as bad as people make them out to be. Doom was messed with, and Galactus screwed with too badly, yep. But the source material? Fantastic Four is goofy as shit. And the movies got that dead-on - the interplay with among the "family". Their take on heroism, etc. It was quite well done.
Me too. I kept wondering why he was so hesitant to do Captain America, then I was reminded that those movies existed and it all made sense.
Callibretto
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I started reading marvel comic outside of xmen/spiderman mainly from the Ultimate comics, it's a good starting point for me and I kinda like the early Ultimate Fantastic Four run, even with the goat leg Doom which I'm sure many people will hate. lol
what I like about it is because it have pretty unique tone, while Avengers, Xmen, and Spiderman are pretty grounded in tone, dealing with stuff like racism, politics and in case of Spiderman, just the highschool life of Peter Parker, the Ultimate Fantastic Four is so weird and over the top, the story deals with alternate dimension and stuff, it's a bit like Dr Who stuff. which is just fun.
The Driver
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It's pretty interesting to see the varying reactions the people who have come out in Marvel movies have had on their roles.
You got guys like Norton and Howard who's relationships with Marvel soured quickly and publicly. Then you have Hugo Weaving saying he wouldn't want to reprise his Red Skull in any future CA or Avengers movies or Mickey Rourke calling them out for making "mindless" movies. There's Jeremy Renner complaining about his brainwashing in the Avengers too.
And then there's Chris Evans, who seems on one hand to be very grateful for the movies but on the other also a bit weary of them based on his interviews. RD.Jr also seems a bit standoffish about the movies but he's also over 50 so I think he has more of a reason to be "ehhh" about doing more Marvel movies after his contract is up.
Really I think the only people I haven't seen any complaints or hints about dissatisfaction from are the guys in the Thor movies (Natalie Portman was apparently contractually forced to come back for Thor:TDW), Samuel L, Don Cheadle, and ScarJo.
I'd kind of love to see how some of the people who come out in these movies react after taking a meeting with Feige and co...
"Damn, that guy is such a cheap douche."
You got guys like Norton and Howard who's relationships with Marvel soured quickly and publicly. Then you have Hugo Weaving saying he wouldn't want to reprise his Red Skull in any future CA or Avengers movies or Mickey Rourke calling them out for making "mindless" movies. There's Jeremy Renner complaining about his brainwashing in the Avengers too.
And then there's Chris Evans, who seems on one hand to be very grateful for the movies but on the other also a bit weary of them based on his interviews. RD.Jr also seems a bit standoffish about the movies but he's also over 50 so I think he has more of a reason to be "ehhh" about doing more Marvel movies after his contract is up.
Really I think the only people I haven't seen any complaints or hints about dissatisfaction from are the guys in the Thor movies (Natalie Portman was apparently contractually forced to come back for Thor:TDW), Samuel L, Don Cheadle, and ScarJo.
I'd kind of love to see how some of the people who come out in these movies react after taking a meeting with Feige and co...
"Damn, that guy is such a cheap douche."
Weaving doesn't want to do any more Marve movies? I wonder what happened, that made him make that decision? As much as it would suck to have to replace another actor, at least with Red Skull you can have a believable reason for it. All you would have to do is say he's wearing a different mask.
Apparently the long hours. Eccleston had mentiones that a normal sesion is about 15 or more hours a day, between makeup sessions and other stuff i can tell is pretty demanding.
Wasn't it also the repeat roles as well? I think the only series that Hugo Weaving reprised a role was the Matrix?
Rentahamster
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Captain America was an okayish movie. The origin part was pretty good, but the whole section of the movie where he's being used as a stage puppet was dumb, and I would have much rather see him learning about his abilities and using them in combat, along with showing the stuff that he does to gain the experience to be as knowledgeable about tactics and strategy that he is. Instead we got a montage.
"We're gonna need a montaaage! MONTAAAAAAAAGE!"
"We're gonna need a montaaage! MONTAAAAAAAAGE!"
Messypandas
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I watched FF:2 the month. Its really mediorce, but it has charm. Its funny and the actors have chemistry like or not. Silver surfers scenes also look awesome. I'd put it on the level of Thor and Iron Man 2.
Earthanoid
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Me neither, I liked it. It's a fun movie and it has some good action sequences, nothing you'll be thinking about later but still enjoyable. It did pretty well overall so I'm a bit surprised so many people on GAF hate it.
Grinchy
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Any guy who liked the movie should be legally forced to have a vasectomy.
matrix-cat
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I really like Chris Evans as Cap, but when I heard about his casting I couldn't believe they didn't go with Aaron Eckhart. That dude screams Captain America.
He's a wee bit middle aged.
childplease
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WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
All-New Shitty Knockoff Avengers.
Because everything has to have "All-New" and everybody is an Avenger.
I kind of wanted one anyways so it works out actually.
Reading people hate on Captain America: The First Avenger makes me want to vomit. That was probably Marvel's most complete film since Iron Man 1 and easily a better film than Thor or Iron Man 2.
Ya'll tripping.
At the time of his freezing, he was like 25.
Ya'll tripping.
At the time of his freezing, he was like 25.
Its not hate, its just the weakest of the Marvel films so far next to Thor. But its nowhere NEAR Fantastic 4 bad. Not even close.
I thought Incredible Hulk was the worst of the MCU-films...
peanutbutterlatte
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Fox should sue Evans for libel, it's the one way they'll actually make money off the Fantastic Four IP.
Between Chris Evans doing not only Fantastic Four but also Scott Pilgrim I found it kind of surprising to hear that he was going to be cast as Cap - if only because he seems to have made it pretty clear that the kind of character he brings to Johnny Storm is pretty much the closest thing to his actual real life demeanor. But as far as his acting chops go he ended up being a real breakout for me. Say what you will about the movies themselves but Chris is a natural in his role as Cap. He pulls off the noble and humble patriotic, yet not obnoxious, super hero so well.
The Winter Soldier ought to stand as one of his best movies ever done.
The Winter Soldier ought to stand as one of his best movies ever done.
Sir_Crocodile
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Have they started principal photography on the FF reboot yet
is there still a chance the track may bend?
is there still a chance the track may bend?
Hours Left
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It is.
peanutbutterlatte
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Shotgun Kiss
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"TOOT"
He's holding the same horn in both of those, so it's apparently the same strip. I seriously need to read this.
Chuckie
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"TOOT"
He's holding the same horn in both of those, so it's apparently the same strip. I seriously need to read this.
Crap.....beaten hahahaha
I also wanted to post it
SquiddyCracker
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Let's not delude ourselves into thinking that the Cap movies were better than the FF-ones.
Because they aren't.
Because they aren't.
Napoleonthechimp
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It's hilarious how a master super-villain like Doctor Doom is completely unable to control himself from blowing the horn (which sounds like a euphemism...Crap.....beaten hahahaha
I also wanted to post it
Hours Left
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This is too(t) amazing.
"TOOT"
George Oscar Bluth II
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Saying the first Cap film is close to Fantastic Four levels is just hilarious.
IncandescentPrecept
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It's not like it's a masterpiece either. I won't say it's bad though, unlike the FF movies. It's watchable like most Marvel movies (the ones from Marvel themselves).
Takamura-San
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If by "isn't much better" you mean the best Marvel film so far (haven't seen capt 2 yet), then you are GODDAMN right.
SonicMegaDrive
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Yeah. I might be one of the one people who actually got a good deal of enjoyment out of every single Marvel Studios film to date. Some are better than others, but they could be a lot worse. They could be Fantastic Four or Ghost Rider or Daredevil.
Most of Captain America 1 was good fun. In my opinion Avengers, Iron Man 1, and Captain America are the 3 best MCU movies and the rest are closer to average quality than not (which is good for a superhero movie considering flops like Fantastic Four). From Fantastic Four I can't even remember anything except Ms. Alba. Damn shame that they turned Silver Surfer into a forgettable film character.
Yea Natalie Portman supposedly wasn't happy at all that they went with a different director in Thor 2; she wanted a female one in Patty Jenkins.
Superhero movies are probably soul crushing experiences for actors. Green screen, sweaty costumes, generally mindless story, cringe-worthy dialogue, zero chance of an Oscar, and perhaps even worse: a lifetime of being associated with the character in public ala Dave Chappelle and his jokes.
Yea Natalie Portman supposedly wasn't happy at all that they went with a different director in Thor 2; she wanted a female one in Patty Jenkins.
Superhero movies are probably soul crushing experiences for actors. Green screen, sweaty costumes, generally mindless story, cringe-worthy dialogue, zero chance of an Oscar, and perhaps even worse: a lifetime of being associated with the character in public ala Dave Chappelle and his jokes.
Thatonemoor
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So much hate for the first cap movie in here. Still love watching it to this day so this saddens me 
Yep female Ghost Rider, Venom, X-23, and Rulk.
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