This is the other thing…. People like to treat the ABK aquisition as a seperate thing. As if ABK profits are sepeeeated from Xbox and MS. Last time I checked MS bought them too though
$12/mo is a promotional price that's only happening because Steam is a behemoth that not only managed to beat off Gamepass's appeal, but also somehow managed to do it without introducing a sub service of their own like Sony did.
Xbox has always had basically unlimited money to burn due to huge profits from Mother Microsoft software. Normally that allows them to buy their way out of "trouble".This is the other thing…. People like to treat the ABK aquisition as a seperate thing. As if ABK profits are sepeeeated from Xbox and MS. Last time I checked MS bought them too though
They lost the 'console wars' but their money still longer than ocean drive and could probably buy Sony 5 times over and still have money to spare to buy Nintendo if the likes of the CMA wouldnt get in their way….. that don't look like a company that is struggling to me.
Isn't it the post price increase? I e used to be $10 and then they recently bumped it up $2 a month (PC gamepass)?
This is the other thing…. People like to treat the ABK aquisition as a seperate thing. As if ABK profits are sepeeeated from Xbox and MS. Last time I checked MS bought them too though
They lost the 'console wars' but their money still longer than ocean drive and could probably buy Sony 5 times over and still have money to spare to buy Nintendo if the likes of the CMA wouldnt get in their way….. that don't look like a company that is struggling to me.
Only after Microsoft pays for the port in several cases. Kotick even could afford to extort Microsoft threatening them with no CoD unless they lowered their cut.
Microsoft is well known for obfuscating specific division level revenue and profits by purposely grouping smaller divisions with Windows, Office, Azure so you never know how much Surface made (not much), Xbox made (not much), etc.
Shovelware? They had to play for the port of NieR: Automata for example.
98.9% of games is shovelware?
Yes. That percentage is even higher on Steam.
Yeah you need to establish that statement with evidence.
Would it make any difference?
This this this. And wait until they understand that when they buy COD, Diablo, Overwatch, Minecraft, Doom, Candy Crush, WoW, Elder Scrolls stuff, most of this money goes into Microsoft's pocket.This is gaf…. As long as PS sells more consoles It dont matter how much MORE money the three trillion dollar company makes …. As long as the perception of 'Playstation domination' is a thing most think there are no actual problems in the industry….. I say they deserve 1000 dollar PlayStations
How do you know the Series X and One have been their most profitable consoles?
Simple.
Microsoft doesn't report profits for individual decisions. So we have no way of knowing what profit or loss Xbox is currently making.
I take that as code for Xbox hasn't posted any loss in the One or Series era
By the same token, Xbox hasn't posted a single profit in this era. We have no idea if the Series is more profitable than the 360 (which was very profitable in its later life).I take that as code for Xbox hasn't posted any loss in the One or Series era
What we do know for a fact is Xbox lost a ton of money on the OG Xbox had a hard time making money with the 360 and when it started to turn it around with Halo 3.
It faced a billion dollar write-off bill for the Three Rings Of Death
This is the other thing…. People like to treat the ABK aquisition as a seperate thing. As if ABK profits are sepeeeated from Xbox and MS. Last time I checked MS bought them too though
that's the sad thing, a lot of fanboys do it for free while being completely brain dead with their takes
That's all I'm really saying…. It still end up in MS pocket.Microsoft is the one making the distinction in their financial reports as far as ABK's impact in revenue. So yeah, they are separate. ABK and Xbox are not the same thing.
Who said Microsoft was struggling as a whole?
I think pretty much everyone here understands that the money made from Microsoft Gaming goes into Microsoft's pocket.
you know what they say. once a shill, always a shill.
Pretty much every fanboy does it for free while being completely brain dead with their takes.
Fanboys on all sides unfortunately
Xbox hasn't posted a loss in this era , unlike the OG Xbox or 360 era.
Xbox hasn't posted a profit in any year in the Series era, unlike in thr 360 era.
Revenue is not profit! Revenue is just how much money is flowing into your company. You can increase that by increasing your cost. For example,if i sell a product at loss,my revenue will likely go up because people will buy the product more(because it's cheaper) but i'm not making any money,in fact,i'm losing it.
Much like 2008 there is about to be a major economic issue to kick off. The entertainment industry is gonna thrive off that like they always have done. When people can't afford to go out they gonna chill on a cheap console with their boy's rather than going on nights out.
Source for this?
That 34 milliom includes the online only gold membership.
Gaming revenue would have been down 4% without ABK.
Microsoft doesn't report profit numbers for any of its segments. So we can't talk about profit of the Xbox Series with any certainty.
This is gaf…. As long as PS sells more consoles It dont matter how much MORE money the three trillion dollar company makes …. As long as the perception of 'Playstation domination' is a thing most think there are no actual problems in the industry….. I say they deserve 1000 dollar PlayStations
You say this like Windows Phone is still around.This is the other thing…. People like to treat the ABK aquisition as a seperate thing. As if ABK profits are sepeeeated from Xbox and MS. Last time I checked MS bought them too though
They lost the 'console wars' but their money still longer than ocean drive and could probably buy Sony 5 times over and still have money to spare to buy Nintendo if the likes of the CMA wouldnt get in their way….. that don't look like a company that is struggling to me.
And before the acquisitions that money went into Bethesda, ABK and Mojang pockets..
If they actually release any GREAT games in the next 5 years with the 25+ studios they have, Gamepass growth would happen. The narrative has been that Gamepass subs have plateaued and no more growth. I guarantee that if they released and had games like Horizon Zero Dawn, Astrobot, Last of Us, GOW, then people would have bought XSX and Gamepass. But MS released a buggy, uninspired Starfield and a tech demo called Hellblade 2 in the last year. MS releases nothing.
