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FakeGAF 6: Fear the Walking Thirst

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Xiao Hu

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Rota is the shit. Whenever we deploy to the med, we spend a lot of time in Rota and I love it .

Here's a picture of me from near Cadiz
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This is NOT how you leave a person to drown in a flood. You have to dig a hole deep enough to cover the body up to the neck. Fucking amateurs....
 

Misha

Banned
I don't know why but I suddenly can't figure out a way to do eyes right in this style. the best i came up with is just too solid compared to the more loose style of the rest of it.
usually eyes are the only thing i do right


(also the nose color needs to change)
 

zeemumu

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Ugh. I'm going to explain why you're wrong and explain how Prime poisoned the entire franchise in the most succinct and eloquent way I can. I got out of fucking bed to do this, so read it.

FPS is fundamentally flawed for a game with an emphasis on exploration and platforming (I dislike it for any game, but that's another matter). You can have a 3D Metroid, but to keep the series' DNA intact it needed to have been presented in the third person.

No it's not and no you don't. That sounds more like a personal bias. Good first-person games based on exploration aren't uncommon, and first-person platforming can work just as well.
The great irony of FPS is that it completely detaches the player from the character and de-immerses you in her plight, and removes any sense of proportionality to the experience both in pathos and raw mechanics because we don't see our character in relation to the environment (Briefly seeing Samus in third person when switching to morphball was such a cosmic tease as to induce madness). This might be fine for 90's gimmickry to wow people with emerging technologies -- "Wow, it's my point of view as I shoot nazis!" -- But for a more depthful experience, for a character driven experience in particular, we simply can't forge the necessary connection when experiencing the world literally through their eyes. This is the great farce of FPS. (I won't even go into the mechanical clumsiness that arises from the inability for peripheral vision to be represented on a flat television surface)
It wasn't really Samus' plight in the first few games as much as it was your own plight.
Seeing Samus run back and forth on a 2D plane did nothing to immerse me in her experience any more than putting it in first-person did, although I can think of a few things that would have had far less of an impact if they had decided to put them in 3rd person. Pretty much any cinematic or just plain dramatic moment from CoD, for example. Or riding any of your creations in Thrillville or any of the other rollercoaster simulators. Different genres but they still use first person to make the experience more immersive in situations when third person just wouldn't do it. 3rd person is usually only better when the character isn't supposed to be you or when the game doesn't have anything to immerse you with. I feel getting hurt in Prime a lot more than I feel it in any other Metroid game.
We also have the problem where many classic staples of Metroid gameplay specifically require third person perspective -- I'm not just talking about the screw attack, but environmental puzzles and platforming demand a better sense of spatiality than FPS provides. This is borne out by Metroid Prime's own designers, who had no choice but to clumsily wedge in awkward switches to third person perspective with fixed, highly controlled cameras whenever they wanted to do a morphball segment. These segments weren't a design victory but an admission by the designers of the game's flaws. Controlling, overdesigned shit like this works against the core of Metroid and shatters the entire fantasy in a single stroke. When you have a game that has a real sense of mystique and isolation, where the onus is on the player alone to navigate its depths -- you simply can't have the designers step in and jerk you around or show you things whenever they decide it's necessary. And if the premise of the gameplay means that it's necessary, then re-examine the fucking premise.
As far as the morph ball goes, yeah that could've been handled better, but it was nowhere near enough to break the game for me.
Prime represented a pointless changing of the formula and shifting of priorities that no one wanted or asked for, and after the third dull, unengaging, boring game failed to build an audience, it left the series without an identity. I submit that Prime is responsible for the destruction of the franchise. Other M is a bi-product of Prime's systematic removal of the series' identity over a generation.

If they wanted to make a FPS exploration game with terrible lock on combat and clumsy, vague platforming they should have just done so and called it something else.
Other M has far more problems outside of it not being able to decide if it wanted to be first or third person.

I'm not going to punish them for trying something new with Metroid, especially since the games were good, for the most part and it didn't stop them from making 2D games.
 
I don't know why but I suddenly can't figure out a way to do eyes right in this style. the best i came up with is just too solid compared to the more loose style of the rest of it.
usually eyes are the only thing i do right



(also the nose color needs to change)
I quite like the eyes like that

Maybe don't make them black?
 

zeemumu

Member
I don't know where I'd ever want to be deployed to if I joined the military. I could get some locations crossed off of this bucket list if they happen to have bases.
 

marrec

Banned
Dude looks like he got left hanging by his love interest when he went in for a fist bump and now he's super bummed but also is fighting digital aliens or something I dunno. At least he has hair.
 

Misha

Banned
I quite like the eyes like that

Maybe don't make them black?

I tried to not make them black and couldn't decide how to handle pupils and thought that not texturing the eye made it look even flatter but doing so made it look too messy. I'll probably try again a few times anyway
looking at it as a smaller picture I think repositioning them a little bit might make them look better. still i don't think they fit the rest of the style so much

also with the smaller picture, I'm impressed how much the blue for her hair behind her head worked out. normally I'd go for a darker version of the same color but since I used #000000 I couldn't go any darker
 

Ceallach

Smells like fresh rosebuds
we have bases here. maybe you end up in my town one day :3

Only places I've been over there are Rammstein and Kiel. Kiel was crazy, I ended up drinking for free with a bunch of prostitutes because the guys I was with wanted to go to a four story brothel and as long as they were spending money, i git free drinks
 

marrec

Banned
You know what Carmack, I'm going to hold off on backing that project until I see something more than just a generic looking gun guy sketch.
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
I feel like Kickstarters should at least have gameplay to display. Otherwise it's a glorified VC pitch about an idea. "Ok, get this. Facebook for tulip collectors. It will be a smash hit."
 

AcridMeat

Banned
Jackson and His Computerband - Dead Living Things

The piano that comes in around 3 minutes is so delightful. Fucking hell I love this song.

edit: And for the lewdinites in this thread, the G.I. Jane video is full of dicks.
My uncle lives near San Francisco, and I used to love visiting him. Everyone in Cali is so chill all the time. At least, compared to the New England yankees who consider a light nod in your direction a hearty hello.
Shit ain't chill here. I mean it is, but nah.
Here's a picture of me from near Cadiz
I'm glad you were able to grow your lower body back.
 

Ceallach

Smells like fresh rosebuds
You're in Germany right?

Yeah there's Ramstein and Spangdahlem, but they're wicked hard to get because everyone wants to go.

But I may end up there just at my own leisure someday; I wanna take a European vacation.

Yeah, Space-A is really nice to be able to fly around for free
 
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