FlyyGOD
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Fans are worried Metaphor won't sell well because Xbox is heavily promoting it
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namenotfound
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This is the modern day version of articles about a post in the comment section of a yahoo news articles
Darkness_Arises
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Judging from the sales of the Xenoblade Chronicles series and contrasting them with other first party releases (even thrashy-ass content starved cash grabs like Mario Tennis and Mario Party), I highly doubt that this mythical audience exists on the Switch either. I would rather play games without crappy IQ and fps.
All XC entries have sold less than the latest FF entries (FFXVI and FFVII Remake) that Ninty and MS fanboys love to call out as failures. Going by your logic, XC series can be a much bigger success if ported to PC and PS5, the audience is just not there on the Switch.
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TheTony316
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Is it another modern teen school jrpg?
No.
Barakov
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Also says a lot about fps and screen tearing.
Doctor Hades
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I've played the demo on PC and was pleasantly surprised at how enjoyable the game was. Now I'm not a massive fan of Persona, although I did enjoy Persona 5 Golden (?) on PS5, and this game borrows a lot of its mechanics for those games but it felt different enough to interest me (i.e. not being set in a school for a change). Not sure if I will buy it at launch but since the save carries over to the final game then I'll just finish the demo and then wait for the game to drop in an inevitable Steam Sale before deciding whether to buy or not.
Honestly, the game has pretty much everything stacked against it. Atlus has already released like 3 big RPG games this year. Release schedule is stacked. Poor technical execution. No Switch SKU. Dumbass title. They should've just delayed it into 2025 and launched with a Switch 2 SKU.
Goalus
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More like Paystation players' perception of Xbox.
cireza
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They will port it for sure.
King Dazzar
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Games can appeal to different people in different ways and be targeting different audiences. And many will love that this is turn based.
GymWolf
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No need for a shitty hybrid system like in the remilks.
MMaRsu
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
It'll sell just fine everywhere else.
BlackTron
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I saw a few commercials for this game while watching Paramount+ the other day which is a lot more commercials than I saw for...any other game. I didn't pay attention to the platforms, I just assumed it was a PS4 game...they could have put a Xbox logo there and I'd still have to check now to see if it's on Xbox, lol
RoboFu
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Looks like it and previews seem to be constantly comparing it to persona.
Heisenberg007
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saintjules
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Being 'worried' about a video game lol. The developer doesn't even know you exist.
Tiago Rodrigues
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I'm starting to wonder if Xbox managed to land some sort of a deal for Persona 6. That would be something.
FewRope
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It would be suicide, not happening
TheTony316
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Looks like it and previews seem to be constantly comparing it to persona.
The combat is almost identical but the game isn't about high school teens nor is it set in a modern setting.
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laynelane
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There has been speculation that marketing rights for Sega/Atlus games are part of this:
Whether this strategic alliance includes marketing rights is never explicitly stated, though. It could be something as simple as Xbox wanting to expand their repertoire and being willing to pay for it. Hard to say, really.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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It'll be fine lol. Most JRPG fans interested in Metaphor are aware it will be available on other platforms too. If the game turns out to be great (and my 11 hours spent in the prologue certainly suggest it will) then word of mouth will help drive its sales.
MMaRsu
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cireza
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No wonder none of you guys are managing companies. What's the point of investing all your money on marketing for consoles where you already have your largest market share ? Obviously SEGA/Atlus are trying to expand their market on consoles/pc where there is the largest possible growth. And hopefully/probably succeeding as their efforts have been constant.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Simultaneous launch? Probably.
Exclusivity? Nah. Nu-Sega is all about making all their games multi-platform.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
A vocal minority thinks this stupid thing and therefore it's true.
Does it make.mlt sense to advertise for the biggest platform? Yes. I just don't think this is the game they will move the needle either way. People that want it will find it on their platform or choice.
Does it make.mlt sense to advertise for the biggest platform? Yes. I just don't think this is the game they will move the needle either way. People that want it will find it on their platform or choice.
Astray
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I checked and the game seems to be doing ok in PSN US/UK preorders. The regular edition is top 10 in both markets as it stands rn, it's also top 10 in my local region too.
I'd be shocked if it does as much as P3R did on launch week tho, the marketing for that one was with Xbox too, but it wasn't anywhere near as restrictive as this contract. Persona is also a known quantity at this point, so there are dedicated fans that would make-up for any loss in awareness
Like you could find P3R trailers arriving very quickly on the PS channel after 1-2 days pass, conversely, it's been almost a complete blackout for Metaphor.
Sony did have it on their floor for TGS tho, Idk if that's something that's been planned for a while, or if they're seeing soft preorders in Japan tho.
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Shake Your Rump
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intheinbetween
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Like if it would need some sort of marketing from the PS5 userbase. If anything it’s smart fort Atlus to grab the cash from MS and build new players from its userbase
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
If you're gonna sign a deal, sign the better deal.
Deerock71
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I'll be nabbing it for my Steam Deck.
I think the tweet in the OP is making the case for the opposite effect. As in it is doing harm to the game since people seem to believe it's xbox exclusive so don't really care about the ads for the game that they see. meaning the xbox associated advertising might be harming its chances on other platforms that more people own. There may be some truth to that but it's a wierd thing to insinuate from that simple tweet.
Astray
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A lot of PS-only or Switch-only players don't follow Xbox conferences and showcases (and why would they?).
Very strange decision to make this deal for a brand new franchise they want to develop into a pillar rather than a series that's already well-known but needs expanding to new audiences.
For Xbox this deal makes perfect sense, they want to have this sort of historical association with hit or beloved franchises like PS or Nintendo have. This is work that should have been done years ago tbh.
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Woopah
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I imagine MS was willing to pay more. They need this stuff more than Sony.
Astray
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And if this game manages to be a massive success with better-than-average sales split on Xbox, then it will be a massive success for them.
For Sega/Atlus, the main issue is whether the game actually sells enough on PS or PC to make back its dev costs. Which feels like being on the more expensive side of Atlus JRPGs, a lot of the monsters are brand new designs that don't really fit into Persona, and the game took something like 8 years to develop.
cireza
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This was done a ton by Sony, but thankfully, this is not the 90s anymore. Information is easier to access than ever. Nobody will be fooled. PS players know very well that the game is coming on their consoles.
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DeepEnigma
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Everyone is a fanboy.
RoboFu
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just played the full demo on steam and its close enough. very flashy all over the place in terms of presentation. You join an army ( a CLASS so to speak) you are a group of KIDS. very little exploration, very little actual gameplay in the demo, 90% cutscenes but that is modern jrpgs for the first part of the game so I wont knock it too much. I am going to pass on it though as the gameplay inst very fun with all the crazy graphics and menus every 5 secs filling the screen.
Also that blue haired girl with a stylish 60s British plaid coat , matching shoes, and a hair band is a boy!?
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Yes yes, let your Sony hate run through you.
Then why have marketing tied to a particular console at all to begin with? Because it works to a degree. Hence why MS has to do petty shit like tweet what games from some other showcases are also on their console or run "fragrance" ads, or, get this, even try and withhold that information from the public for this game with an embargo:
Xbox Had Embargoed Persona Dev's Metaphor: ReFantazio After All, as Fantasy RPG Is Confirmed for PS5, PS4
Through a leak, no less
www.pushsquare.com
What a completely useless and stupid move by Xbox in the 2020s, right?
I wonder what sort of impression they are trying to give with moves like this since it doesn't fool anyone since the 90s according to you. People aren't constantly searching for info. They can be exposed to only some, form their beliefs, then not show any further interest in seeking information based on the fact that they've absorbed prior information on it already.
cireza
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Supposing you are right, then you have no issue reproaching MS something that Sony have been doing for 30 years for the exact reasons you are advancing.Yes yes, let your Sony hate run through you.
Then why have marketing tied to a particular console at all to begin with? Because it works to a degree. Hence why MS has to do petty shit like tweet what games from some other showcases are also on their console or run "fragrance" ads, or, get this, even try and withhold that information from the public for this game with an embargo:
Xbox Had Embargoed Persona Dev's Metaphor: ReFantazio After All, as Fantasy RPG Is Confirmed for PS5, PS4
Through a leak, no less
What a completely useless and stupid move by Xbox in the 2020s, right?
I wonder what sort of impression they are trying to give with moves like this since it doesn't fool anyone since the 90s according to you. People aren't constantly searching for info. They can be exposed to only some, form their beliefs, then not show any further interest in seeking information based on the fact that they've absorbed prior information on it already.
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I'm not the one who gives a shit about that. That's you. I'm only showing you that it's designed to give the impression that it's only on that platform and that some who do not research it further go on to believe it is and lose interest. It works to a degree and it's not a 90s thing.
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Lethal01
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Read that as Remiks.
And man that would be a cool name for something
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