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[intheinbetween]

So how would you go about building a JRPG audience on Xbox? I'm curious.

Just don't build it and let it die so they are forced to move to PS for the sake of gaming

/s

This is pointless ranting, MS did good by getting this partnership otherwise XBOX players and probably PC gamers would've had to wait for this to happen. And yes, I'm glad MS were smart getting the partnership instead of Sony because otherwise probably Metaphor, the Persona releases and SMT V would've ended up as PS and EGS exclusives

 

[hemo memo]

or it's just boring to some people that want gaming as a fun escape . . .

You seem to hate turn-based games. Just a reminder that Yakuza: LaD and Persona 5 offer fundamentally different combat experiences, despite both being turn-based JRPGs.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

From Amazon UK

 

[GHG]

SMT V would've ended up as PS and EGS exclusives

Who wants to tell him?

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

So how would you go about building a JRPG audience on Xbox? I'm curious.

so by not marketing the game on ps5 and steam, atlus will magically create a jprg audience on a dying platform where the users were trained not to buy games?

sounds reasonable lol

let's see how that works out for them

 

[Fabieter]

So how would you go about building a JRPG audience on Xbox? I'm curious.

Make your own shit. It's definitely not okay to do this kind of marketing. It's worse than any marketing deal than sony did which is telling.

 

[PJX]

Make your own shit. It's definitely not okay to do this kind of marketing. It's worse than any marketing deal than sony did which is telling.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious.

 

[Fabieter]

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious.

Besides Sony shitty little exclusive gimmicks in third party games. Imagine sony forcing WB games to not mention hogwarts legacy coming to xbox even on their own channels. AFAIK that never happened for any publisher but correct me if iam wrong.

 

[Dynasty8]

Bought it on Xbox. I also own a PS5 and a strong PC. I like the "Play Anywhere" feature that the Xbox ecosystem offers where I can switch between console and PC at any point and my save files follow me.

Regardless, it doesn't matter what platform people play on. Just get the game if you're on the fence. I am around 15 hours in...I went from "I'm tired of JRPGs and probably won't pick this game up" to Game of the Year!

Although I've played and beat most of the Persona games, I was never crazy about them due to the high school setting (personal preference)... But this is Atlus at their best. This game is phenomenal so far.

 

[PJX]

Besides Sony shitty little exclusive gimmicks in third party games. Imagine sony forcing WB games to not mention hogwarts legacy coming to xbox even on their own channels. AFAIK that never happened for any publisher but correct me if iam wrong.

Did you just start gaming like 5 years ago or something? Sony has been doing that shit since back in the PS1 days in game magazines and other media.

 

[Fabieter]

Did you just start gaming like 5 years ago or something? Sony has been doing that shit since back in the PS1 days in game magazines and other media.

Iam glady taking examples where publishers were completely forbidden to talk about Xbox,Nintendo, Sega, PC versions in the west from any sources.

 

[Sooner]

Even if equal numbers of people bought it for each platform, the Xbox listing on Amazon would be a fraction of PlayStation, since Xbox owners buy digitally.

As do PlayStation gamers.

What you should say is,
"the Xbox listing on Amazon would be a fraction of PlayStation, since PlayStation owners actually buy games. "

 

[adamsapple]

What about digital sales ?

Where did you get the Xbox review number? Because Xbox reviews on console and online are locked to region, whereas PS Store reviews are global.

 

[PJX]

Iam glady taking examples where publishers were completely forbidden to talk about Xbox,Nintendo, Sega, PC versions in the west from any sources.

I'm sure you can do that research on your own.

 

[Ziglax]

What's with all these idiotic threads stirring console war ?

 

[Team Andromeda]

Besides Sony shitty little exclusive gimmicks in third party games. Imagine sony forcing WB games to not mention hogwarts legacy coming to xbox even on their own channels. AFAIK that never happened for any publisher but correct me if iam wrong.

This is the same SONY that had EDIOS make out Tomb Raider 2 wasnt coming to the Saturn due to technical issues.

 

[DenchDeckard]

This is the same SONY that had EDIOS make out Tomb Raider 2 wasnt coming to the Saturn due to technical issues.

Its also this year, where Sonys biggest games outside of Astro Bot are Money hats but they are now the only publisher that is allowed to do it and people shout about how Xbox did it with GTA.

I'm all for a publisher like Sony supporting a games production like Stellar Blade but buying exclusivity like silent hill 2 and FFVII just sucks, imo.

 

[Team Andromeda]

Its also this year, where Sonys biggest games outside of Astro Bot are Money hats but they are now the only publisher that is allowed to do it and people shout about how Xbox did it with GTA.

I'm all for a publisher like Sony supporting a games production like Stellar Blade but buying exclusivity like silent hill 2 and FFVII just sucks, imo.

I've no issues with exclusive deals , but just be open and honest about it.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I've no issues with exclusive deals , but just be open and honest about it.

I think i'd be ok with it if it was a fair playing field but from what we've seen with games like tomb raider, there is double standards within the industry and its end users. So I think its fair to avoid them where possible.

 

[FewRope]

Agree with you there. Optics are expensive when you are that far behind. Was browsing the collector's edition of the game on Amazon and noticed the PS5 and Steam versions are sold out while Xbox version is still available. It's gotta rub raw for Phil Spencer to put out that money to promote a game only to see everyone flock to the competition.

https://www.amazon.com/Metaphor-ReFantazio-Collectors-PlayStation-5/dp/B0D2G8GSV3/ref=sr_1_2?crid=31RJU0ZV16JQ1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.MsW77dl9EH0SxVSU3a-2bzBly7eGlZdvVhR6Mah85mjDpfcurU1LF1gqW7489WHmphcn83DPm2rLfL2Z8tmjCs56oXNi6J2FDDpUqgGwHfA.F3lFHS2VEsB9a-bm_zD8ml5Lf9li9BGGXgQawefQQyc&dib_tag=se&keywords=metaphor%2Brefantazio%2Bcollector%27s%2Bedition&qid=1728302989&sprefix=metaphor%2Brefantazio%2Bc%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-2&th=1

I dont know why is controversial to say the game sold like absolute shit on Xbox, the facts are there

 

[DenchDeckard]

I dont know why is controversial to say the game sold like absolute shit on Xbox, the facts are there

You have the sales figures? The facts are a 150 dollar limited edition?

On a positive, does anyone know if the 35th digital deluxe version is worth it or should I just buy the standard?

 

[Team Andromeda]

I think i'd be ok with it if it was a fair playing field but from what we've seen with games like tomb raider, there is double standards within the industry and its end users. So I think its fair to avoid them where possible.

You're not going to get a level playing field unless the user base is level . I've. O issues with corps making deals . I just wish that all sides were far more open and honest about it , rather than hide behind this or that console can't run it .

I just like to see a crop come out say we love the developer or love the game and done a deal.

 

[Fabieter]

This is the same SONY that had EDIOS make out Tomb Raider 2 wasnt coming to the Saturn due to technical issues.

Sony did shitty exclusive deals. This is a shitty marketing deal. They are not the same. It's imo actually worse for the devs than the ff 16/rebirth exclusive deal.

 

[cireza]

Sony did shitty exclusive deals. This is a shitty marketing deal. They are not the same. It's imo actually worse for the devs than the ff 16/rebirth exclusive deal.

Releasing the game on all platforms is worse than releasing on only one ?

By this logic, is releasing on zero platform better than releasing on only one ? Not sure anymore.

 

[Drell]

Well I guess everyone hates turn based combat, right?

 

[Fabieter]

Releasing the game on all platforms is worse than releasing on only one ?

By this logic, is releasing on zero platform better than releasing on only one ? Not sure anymore.

Hiding the most important platforms (steam and PlayStation) is stupid yes.

 

[cireza]

Hiding the most important platforms (steam and PlayStation) is stupid yes.

 

[Team Andromeda]

Sony did shitty exclusive deals. This is a shitty marketing deal. They are not the same. It's imo actually worse for the devs than the ff 16/rebirth exclusive deal.

So shitty that SEGA gets loads of cash, free PR and also the game sell very good at launch so even more money for SEGA.

But whatever....

 

[Fabieter]

So shitty that SEGA gets loads of cash, free PR and also the game sell very good at launch so even more money for SEGA.

But whatever....

Yea loads of cash and the Inability to market games on anything other than ms platforms in the West. I would argue that it would have sold even better without the stupid marketing but if you like it i dont care. But people liking this should stop criticise other stupid business decisions from other companies.

 

[PurePlatinum]

atlus I think was smart to take the Xbox bag on this. Anyone who cares about Metaphor and knows it's coming out already has a PlayStation.

Marketing on Xbox means they get a shot at the more casual players of this genre.

 

[Team Andromeda]

Yea loads of cash and the Inability to market games on anything other than ms platforms in the West. I would argue that it would have sold even better without the stupid marketing but if you like it i dont care. But people liking this should stop criticise other stupid business decisions from other companies.

I happy the game is doing well and SEGA got a nice new IP on its hands.

It's nice seeing Atlus on PC and Xbox too

 

[RetroGamingUK]

This is the same SONY that had EDIOS make out Tomb Raider 2 wasnt coming to the Saturn due to technical issues.

Tomb Raider 1 already looked and ran badly on the Saturn.

That and Saturn game/console sales had fallen off a cliff by late 1997.

Saturn TR2 was never going to happen either way.

 

[Fabieter]

I happy the game is doing well and SEGA got a nice new IP on its hands.

It's nice seeing Atlus on PC and Xbox too

It's not about Sega being on pc and Xbox that was way overdue but that doesnt have anything to do with ms shady marketing. Hope Sega is out after this.

 

[DenchDeckard]

It's not about Sega being on pc and Xbox that was way overdue but that doesnt have anything to do with ms shady marketing. Hope Sega is out after this.

Sega are continuing to keep their marketing with MS so i think you're out of luck, buddy.

It's not a big deal.

 

[RobRSG]

Finally.

 

[cireza]

the Inability to market games on anything other than ms platforms in the West.

This has been totally debunked on the other topic by the way.

 

[saintjules]

Finally.

Which version of the artwork is this one? I didn't see it online.

 

[Fabieter]

Sega are continuing to keep their marketing with MS so i think you're out of luck, buddy.

It's not a big deal.

"I don't really mind either way if they want to keep doing their strange marketing tactics." If they think their barebones marketing for the biggest platforms is enough than everyone can be happy .

 

[intheinbetween]

Finally.

Though I'm playing on Series X and PC (Play Anywhere is a blessing)

 

[Fabieter]

This has been totally debunked on the other topic by the way.

Yea it was only atlus videos across the board hiding it so yea weird marketing instead of none.

 

[Topher]

Yea it was only atlus videos across the board hiding it so yea weird marketing instead of none.

No, it was just Xbox's marketing videos. Here is a Metaphor video from PlayStation that doesn't mention Xbox.

 

[Fabieter]

No, it was just Xbox's marketing videos. Here is a Metaphor video from PlayStation that doesn't mention Xbox.

"So you're saying Atlus didn't use any of their own footage and just relied on Microsoft's promotional material?" Yes? That's weird marketing if it's every single video they are doing.

 

[adamsapple]

Well I guess everyone hates turn based combat, right?

Baldurs Gate 3 had a good run.

 

[Topher]

"So you're saying Atlus didn't use any of their own footage and just relied on Microsoft's promotional material?" Yes? That's weird marketing if it's every single video they are doing.

Obviously Atlus provided both PlayStation and Xbox with the exact same video for them to promote their own platforms. This is the Xbox promo video you posted in the other thread. The one I posted above is exactly the same, but for PlayStation. So what is the big deal?

 

[Fabieter]

Obviously Atlus provided both PlayStation and Xbox with the exact same video for them to promote their own platforms. This is the Xbox promo video you posted in the other thread. The one I posted above is exactly the same, but for PlayStation. So what is the big deal?

It's not big deal. I just think it's weird that atlus channels don't bother with their own videos and promote steam and PlayStation more. I don't think its normal with the other marketing deals but it might be the case that I don't care for most western releases as much who knows.

It doesn't matter in the end. In fact like I posted in the off topic I didn't even like it as much as their previous titles at least in the first few hours. It's still good but my expectations were really high.

My work is done so I can stop now anyway

 

[Mr Moose]

Which version of the artwork is this one? I didn't see it online.

Collectors edition box I think.

Obviously Atlus provided both PlayStation and Xbox with the exact same video for them to promote their own platforms. This is the Xbox promo video you posted in the other thread. The one I posted above is exactly the same, but for PlayStation. So what is the big deal?

That's the Atlus channel, that video should be on Xbox channel. Atlus channel should list all.

 

[Topher]

Collectors edition box I think.That's the Atlus channel, that video should be on Xbox channel. Atlus channel should list all.

I'm guessing that spot on the Atlus channel is what Microsoft is paying for. Seems to only be Atlus West though as the Japanese Atlus channels lists all the platforms.

 

[Mr Moose]

I'm guessing that spot on the Atlus channel is what Microsoft is paying for. Seems to only be Atlus West though as the Japanese Atlus channels lists all the platforms.

Yeah. I have no problem with this marketing, the annoying one they do is the 2 day bullshit.

 

[Topher]

Yeah. I have no problem with this marketing, the annoying one they do is the 2 day bullshit.

What is the 2 day bullshit?

 

[Mr Moose]

What is the 2 day bullshit?

Xbox has a 2 day embargo for multiplatform announcements

Found first on reddit r/GamingLeaksAndRumours - It looks like Xbox has a 2 day embargo on multiplatform announcements from its showcase Press release for Wo Long confirming it coming to other platforms that was planned for June 14th Another press release also dated June 14th for Persona 3...

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