Ravensmash
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How can you say that without playing it?
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Far Cry 3 |OT| Sex, Drugs, and the Call of Battle in the Uncharted
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How can you say that without playing it?
Snkfanatic
Banned
So jelly of my fellow GAF members getting the game. Can't wait for next week!
Nizz
Member
Add me to the body awareness in FPS fan club. Loved it in Mirror's Edge, Battlefield 3, Killzone 2/3, Crysis 1/2 and now Far Cry 3. I feel more immersed in the game when they do this.
Canis lupus
Member
Pretty good scores so far, this might be my first Far cry game.
Syndicate did it really well too. The game got a lot of shit because it was called Syndicate but it was an awesome FPS.
That might be the worst straw manning I've ever seen.
He didn't complain about the amount of content.
Uh by playing a huge number of games including Far Cry 2 and paying attention to what works and what doesn't? Are you expecting me to have played a game that isn't out yet?
SlasherJPC
Banned
You just seem to be pretty negative in your outlook on Farcry 3 already. It's pretty apparent. Play the game and if you still feel these are issues, fair enough.
Ravensmash
Member
How can you say that more content (optional) ruins the tone? What tone?
Why are those who have played the game not supporting your argument about the content ruining the tone of the game?
Nizz
Member
Yeah, I've heard about this. Going to have to try and play Syndicate sometime.
I have a question I'm hoping people with their hands on Far Cry 3 can answer. In Far Cry 2 on consoles, there was some very funky acceleration in the sticks. When I pushed the right stick to aim it felt like the movement wouldn't register then after a point suddenly movement kicked in. It made me over aim and constantly having to correct shots.
I played Far Cry 2 on PS3 but the 360 version had this issue too. Do controls in Far Cry 3 feel better?
I had no attachment to the Syndicate name and was really excited for the game, but I ultimately found it rather disappointing. Definitely not up to the standards of Starbreezes's best work (though the team was also rather different).
Singleplayer was a disappointment but the Multiplayer Coop was great.
Good read. More and more this game has that something special vibe. I am especially intrigued by the attention to detail in terms of history on the islands, with smatterings of different times everywhere. The fact that they put that much thought into the world says a lot.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Sounds so good
So I have the $59.99 deluxe version preordered from amazon that comes with the following:
Reading into these descriptions you can kinda tell which really are exclusive to the deluxe and which aren't. The first two, monkey pack and lost expeditions sound like they could be exclusive because they're 6 total missions. The "unlock the power of a shotgun in a one-handed flare gun in multi" sounds like an early unlock.
The warrior pack sounds weak, the dagger is trivial, and the tattoo editor from the way they describe it sounds like another early unlock.
The prediator pack... not sure if the M-700 predator rifle is available in the regular edition, doesn't say unlock because it's for single-player. The predator bow sounds like an unlock.
the difference is 10 bucks, not 100% sure what to do. probably leaning towards the deluxe
How's the soundtrack to this game so far? FC2 had some amazing themes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExGoKYTCk7E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrU5D7eAEs
I hope this one will at least be half as good, though I'm hearing a lot of dubstep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExGoKYTCk7E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrU5D7eAEs
I hope this one will at least be half as good, though I'm hearing a lot of dubstep.
So? You seem to be pretty positive in regards to Far Cry 3. Would it be OK for me to write:
"Regardless, we play games to have fun. Far Cry 3 doesn't offer much fun and from seeing reviews, videos, and interviews that's pretty damn apparent. You don't like fun? Sure, play Far Cry 3 lol."
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To reiterate: the amount of content is not a problem.
The specific content in question being optional is irrelevant. If Half-Life 2 had a segment where you could optionally kill 10 dogs with an RPG for XP it would negatively impact the experience.
The tone? http://youtu.be/S--zR5BQAW0 Relatively intense verisimilitude. This sort of side content is more appropriate in your average MMO.
You don't become a professional games enthusiast by being a critical. I don't expect them to understand any of the nuances of Far Cry 2's design and why it hurts this game to turn its back on the principles behind them. This guy's argument is "I don't think it ruined the tone. You are wrong because you hate fun and have a negative outlook."
GANGSTERKILLER
Member
SlasherJPC
Banned
I've played the game. Bitch and moan all you want, doesn't bother me. I also played Far Cry 2 and enjoyed it. Ohhh no... you act like there wasn't alot of content in Far Cry 2 or something. Was the tone ruined then? I give up.
Mister0079
Member
That sucks. I was hoping to play local splitscreen on PC with a friend.
SJRB
Gold Member
If FC2 was moddable someone would've fixed the respawn times of the outposts, enemy detection parameters and we all would be playing this game right now in anticipation of FC3.
legacyzero
Banned
Somebody posted a source in the first few pages. That would be a bummer if it wasn't true. And I'd feel like an ass because I've been telling GAFers that it was included.Who the hell said there will be split-screen in the PC version?
Might have to research this.
Some of the stuff I appreciated from FC2 is now gone, sadly, i.e. the weapon degradation/jamming and malaria mechanics. I know some people hated those but to me they just added to the sense that you're in a harsh, unforgiving environment and have to make do with what you have. I liked being forced to improvise when those things cropped up.
FC3 seems to dial back on that sort of thing a lot which is my #1 concern about the game.
I also really liked the buddy system. I really wish they had kept it and just built on it, especially since the characters now are supposed to be much more fleshed out. Adding a buddy system like FC2's on top of solid character writing would have been very effective in creating a sense of attachment.
Playing the game is no excuse for shoddy arguments. Like this one: "bitch and moan all you want" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem. Here, I'll give it a shot: Games writer can't understand that the amount of content is irrelevant to discussion of its properties? Shocking.
And yes, things like "you have collected x amount of diamonds out of y" did run against the grain in Far Cry 2.
TheFightingFish
Member
Lame, lame, and triple lame. More and more folks (like myself) have a PC hooked up to a big screen with a 360 or controller or two. Obviously the PC has a bit more work to do in this area with all the different performance characteristics of different displays and systems. But I just can't believe that it's that big a deal if it's in the 360 version already. Hate when devs do this.
legacyzero
Banned
People are telling me on the Ubi forums that PC split screen is in. Its not an official source yet though.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Lame if PC version doesn't have split screen.
SS being ignored on PC is fucking stupid.
SS being ignored on PC is fucking stupid.
I'm not sure on this but malaria was probably conceived of as a means to force the player into completing underground missions (in a natural way.) They're the only ones that involve civilians (important to see in order to convey that the situation involves more than just killers.) I don't think even a more thoughtful sequel to Far Cry 2 would include it if non-combatants are now part of the world sim.
However, some sort of disease system would be cool.
legacyzero
Banned
I think devs being closed minded on features in general sucks.
Well, there's this: http://www.moddb.com/mods/dylans-far-cry-2-realism-mod
SlasherJPC
Banned
First off it's not a personal attack. If you want to complain, go for it. You might have this prerequisite (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prerequisite See I can input links too) that games can't have extra content that has nothing to do with the overal tone and story, but It's mostly falling on deaf ears here. I surely never let anything such as extra content effect my thoughts on a game. It's extra. Plain and simple. Maybe if the extra content was of such a horrible quality, I could see it putting a stink on the overal game, but that's not the case on Far Cry 3. To each their own.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Truth.
On PC it's worse, though. Comfy couch gaming is goddamn mainstream these days.
Content for contents sake IS a bad thing. It's a game design philosophy that caters to OCD gamers and achievement hunters, doing stuff they don't enjoy simply to have the satisfaction of that "100%". Like in Assassin's Creed. If the content is good, fun, and meaningful, and not simply chasing dots on a map or "unlocking" stuff that should've been there from the beginning (I read that you unlock basic stuff like cooking a grenade in this?), it's great. Usually it's not. Now I'm not saying this is how it is in Far Cry 3, but your posts aren't very reassuring to me.
legacyzero
Banned
Im quoting this post from page two regarding split screen on PC.
m.co-optimus.com/article/8473/far-cry-3-follow-up-questions-plus-new-co-op-campaign-trailer-and-images.html
Interesting. Was thinking of messing around a bit with FC2 again before 3 comes out. Think I'll give this a shot.
Well I'd want something world-appropriate for FC3, certainly, but I appreciate those sorts of mechanics that give you something else to consider and can force you to re-evaluate strategic planning as well as tactics if it crops up during combat.
bitoriginal
Member
I did ask this before but I got no response, has anyone in the UK had their copy dispatched from Shopto yet? Itching to play this.
NoirVisage
Banned
Truth, single player turned me off completely,
but i tried co-op soolo..got my butt handed to me, but kept at it, and solo'd 75% of that bad boy, one of the best fps i ever played. i hope farcry3 can replicate the feeling i got owning everything.
Wind's Howling
Member
I am actually glad this caters towards Stealth players as well. I can now finally hide in the bushes when an enemy vehicle approaches and I will not be spotted. That is something that bothered the hell out of me in Far Cry 2.
SJRB
Gold Member
That looks... pretty damn great?
I can't believe this game out last June too. If FC3 wasn't coming out tomorrow I would definately have tried this mod.
Nizz
Member
Same here.Is there a significance difference between the console versions? Thinking of going for the PS3 version.
Have to wait till fucking Christmas though
I think my brother's going to get me this as a gift.I didn't say it was a personal attack. You're "personally against an opponent, instead of against the opponent's argument." Saying nothing relevant to the arguments put forth while accusing someone of "hating fun" & "bitching and moaning" constitutes "an attack on the bias of a source. This is fallacious because a disposition to make a certain argument does not make the argument false; this overlaps with the genetic fallacy (an argument that a claim is incorrect due to its source)."
You have no regard for anything in a game you aren't forced to do? I think that speaks for itself. (Which is false anyway, there is no way to avoid the HUD or XP)
RebornYeti
Member
Pretty sure I'm going to run around with a Bow as often as I can.