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Fighting Games Weekly | April 7-13 | Smash our expectations
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CountBlack
Member
I wonder how Vega players are feeling right now
I was looking at some old match videos and the Aris vs Padshen matches at SCR2014 for SC2HD were insanely good. A shame it got buried under the day 1 footage on Commando's stream, but it's well worth a watch. Padshen's play is so beautiful.
Aris vs Padshen top 8
Aris vs Padshen Grand finals
Aris vs Padshen top 8
Aris vs Padshen Grand finals
Shouta
Member
Shall I change your tag to "Rose's Fortune-Telling Extravaganza"? lol
But yeah, I agree. I think Sim is pretty terrible and even with buffs, isn't really going to improve. The game just isn't friendly to him what with EX attacks, focus, etc. Even one of Sim's favorable match-ups on your list, T.hawk, isn't all that favorable to him as a T.hawk player myself. T.Hawk is gonna get worse for Sim too with the walk speed buff and faster Spires, too lol.
UltraDavid
Member
I play Hakan, Hawk, Dan, and Dhalsim, and of those 4, Dhalsim is the worst imo.
Major problems:
--Weak antiair: Sim's antiairs all require startup time and all take a big commitment. I can't throw a fireball and then use my invincible dragon punch if the opponent jumps; if I don't have enough frames to start a back+hk, back+mp, ex blast, etc, I have almost nothing. Lots of characters have jump attacks that beat Sim's normal antiairs if they get the timing or spacing right. If they get the jump in, they take 1/4-1/3 of my life and I'm put in a bad situation, while if I get the antiair, I deal like 90 damage, so the incentives are not in my favor. I can do a u1 for the opponent to land on, but if they empty jump, I might be screwed, and my comeback potential is screwed without u1 as well. And if an opponent character can change its jump arc, then Sim is totally screwed because all his antiairs require big commitments. If I see Seth jumping at me and I do back+mp, but he delayed himself slightly with divekick startup, then I'm totally screwed. Or if I see Cammy jumping at me and I do ex blast, but she shortens her jump with divekick, then I'm totally screwed. Too many characters can do this.
--Weak damage: Nobody is scared of getting punishing by Dhalsim. People do otherwise stupid things like random dps and random jump ins and random focuses because they're just not worried about Sim's potential damage output.
--Weak mobility: Even with a teleport and instant air teleport, Sim's mobility is weak compared to much of the cast. His walk speeds and dash speeds are awful, his slides are all very negative on block, and his drills and mummy are slow and don't cause much hitstun or blockstun.
--Bad up close defense: There's a really frustrating range not far in front of Sim where he doesn't really have the tools to deal with the opponent's offense. Nothing invincible, nothing damage, no combos without counterhit, no fast or invincible focus breakers, etc. This range sucks.
--Snowball effect: With my bad antiair, I'm susceptible to getting jumped in on. When the opponent jumps in, I have bad mobility and bad up close defense, so I'm screwed.
--Risky offense: Sim has such trouble zoning in some matchups that playing offense might be preferable. He has good safe jumps and crossups and frame traps actually, but the risk reward is not in his favor. Oh, I mistimed a safe jump? I eat dp fadc ultra and get knocked down and now I'm screwed. I guessed wrong in frame traps? I get knocked down and now I'm screwed. I guessed right? I deal minor damage. Also, making comebacks can be really tough. He only has a couple tools to force mixups, like u1 and in some cases ex fire. Without those, the opponent basically has to let himself get hit.
I don't want all of those weaknesses fixed because then he'd be too good. Sim is getting more damage in USF4, so hopefully he can make people think twice about some things and play a bit more effectively on offense. But his antiair, up close defense, and mobility still suck.
I feel like he'll be a little bit better in absolute terms, but relative to most of the rest of the cast I think he still sounds weak.
donkey kong, megaman, little mac. i'll see if any other character interests me.So who is everyone planing on using in the new smash?
I'm planning on using Greninja, Pikachu, Zero Suit Samus, and Bowser myself
Really wish you had pushed for that Chinese KOF clone they owned to hit the US... (or maybe you did?)
As for Sim, I think to fix him you'd need to give him ST drills and HDR upflame.
SloaneRisette
Member
I like all of the Cody changes except for the EX Criminal Upper one
haha naw I was just doing QA for a Facebook game that got canned last year.
oh hey I got tagged
I'm very interested why lol
biosnake20
Member
I'm really interested to see how the new mechanics affect the game and which characters can take advantage of them
the most. Sim for example can benefit from using both ultras, delayed wake up will help his weak defense, and he can combo into ultra 1 with RFADC.
the most. Sim for example can benefit from using both ultras, delayed wake up will help his weak defense, and he can combo into ultra 1 with RFADC.
It was only a question of when once that post went up.
wlecome, brother
theprodigy
Member
now where did your tag come from
irfaanator
Banned
sixteen-bit, instead of giving a sega genesis, he gave a tag
Holy Order Sol
Member
Recent KOF XIII ft10 between Tom Sawyer and Misterio, somewhat less one-sided than the previous one.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZWW5QAYQI
Doubles as yet another lesson in dealing with the top tier/common threats for those interested.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZWW5QAYQI
Doubles as yet another lesson in dealing with the top tier/common threats for those interested.
Well that's certainly a delayed reaction.
It's like I was telling you guys. The slip was in the tube.
irfaanator
Banned
still don't understand the reasoning behind e.ryu's 950 health. Chun got the same increase, but why not Rose? This still boggles my mind. I'm assuming Rose now has the 2nd lowest health?
Nice.
MarkMan
loves Arcade Sticks
Tried. Not possible (for us).
If it were only that easy. Being a licensed partner makes things more complicated than they seem.
I'm excited to get to play on a new stick for my PS4. Talk to us about that. And which game it's going to be a licensed product for. Talk to us about that as well.
Not that I disagree but I'm curious as to why you think this.
Professor Beef
Banned
Good. Fuck Rose.
Curry-Hakase
Member
Maybe there's an application and approval process.
I personally like to think there's some sort of GAF council and all the mods vote on it.
If there was a patch Morrigan would get nerfed 100%... probably more than she even deserved. It doesn't matter if you are playing against ChrisG's Morrigan, that character combined with Missiles destroys many teams even when piloted by a decent player (like JRosa).
Basically think of Morrigan like the Dhalsim of Marvel... only top tier. You don't think people rage against that character online? Not only is she frustrating to play against, many people don't like watching her play either.
If there was a patch and going by what Capcom is known to do and not my own opinion about how the game should be patched... Morrigan, Doom, Vergil and Zero would be gutted. Magneto and Viper would most likely get by with just a slap on the wrist.
CountBlack
Member
Just noticed they took away Deejay's U1 buff with giving it farther range.
now I'm mad.
now I'm mad.
Hmm.. so why did they deny MLG if they're concurrently hosting Pro Tour ranking tournaments? Is it because they would want to have personnel at the MLG tournament as well as SEAM, but can get away with nobody coming to Civil War?
Thanks for this information though, I'll update OP.
Interesting data, though yeah I think it's hard to pull any conclusion for NLBCs popularity in particular from it. Ultra probably has a huge effect, and probably more than Sanford as well.Are we sure this isn't the Ultra effect? Not to say that Sanford doesn't inspire people to come out, but interest always rises when there's a new version.
Here's the number of tournament and event postings on SRK by month correlated with release dates of various fighting games:
link
Yes, this doesn't have just SF tournaments, but you can see how the number of tournaments for fighting games increases drastically when a new version of SF comes out.
Ah yes. Forgot about this. Does he still speak to animals in the Ultimate universe? I don't think I've read anything in the Ultimate universe besides a few issues of (anime) Iron Man and the Ultimates.As they did with Nick Fury, they took from the Ultimate universe:
Someone corrected me earlier by saying it was Nova's ending.
both handicaps at 50%?
dis
I always forget handicaps exist. do any of you use them to play with your friends or something?
Only to embarrass people by showing them how shit they are.
Word, I'll be at the Whiskey Priest GAF meetup at 7 PM on Friday.
not going to the meetup, may body some gaffers at pax though
there's rooms for street fighter like last time, yeah?
I can't think of any other reason for handicap to exist
CountBlack
Member
y does no one care about deejay
.la1n
Member
wow Ibuki got some pretty nice changes. cool
Yeah, hope she ends up being as fun to play as she was for me In 3rd Strike.
he's cool but he's not dudley
Thanks for posting, will watch.
Really hope Misterio and Toshi show up for EVO.
Toshi is also from Mexico iirc and he went toe to toe with Bala with his team of Athena, Kensou and Iori. Bala had to tier whore and counter pick it all the way up to keep up.
I really wish they raised her walking speed to Akuma walk speed or something. She was a lot more fun that way.
Karsticles
Member
Can Sony patch in forward compatability? As in, could the FGC bring awareness to this issue for Sony to get a fix in place?