Fimbulvetr
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Appollowexx said:
He's an adult now, of course he still looks 14.
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Final Fantasy XIII-2 E3 Information Thread [Trailer, BioWare Storytelling, More]
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He's an adult now, of course he still looks 14.
Appollowexx
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And to Lightning, that is all that matters. I see why they call this a role playing game.Fimbulvetr said:
Fimbulvetr said:
I dunno, I think I'm just used to shoddy exposition. Tales of Symphonia was my first jrpg (yes I'm young) and it started off with an extremely subtle history lesson. Hope would've been a good character to use except they were probably trying to make him come off as sort of brainy. They also could've tried using Vanille's narration to actually narrate the story instead of...whatever she was saying.
There are so many things they could've used to explain the story I don't know how they ever went wrong.
Appollowexx said:
B-but Hope is legal now! It's possible!
edit: beaten
Fimbulvetr
Member
That explains everything.Droplet said:
If I hear "everybody has a right to live" one more time I'm gonna punch something.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
You have really good eyes, I can't make out the entire word outside of Bs and Os and "express" since I've seen it before. XDmiladesn said:
Bah, we'll find a way for a nightclub to be in this game for awkward scenes.
I guess people are living on habitable parts of Cocoon and down under on Pulse, then.
Subtle history lessons during the beginning mightn't work if they want to start the narrative in media res, though (I don't think, at least). They had a ton of flashbacks in the game, but most of them served to show the thirteen days prior to the events now taking place. If they were going for exposition and history, then there would be more cutscenes, no (how much of the disc consisted of cutscenes already)? However--that Fabula Nova Crystallis history thing that they showed during their January conference would have been a wonderful addition to FFXIII.Droplet said:
Vanille's narration was basically about her experiences with the groups and the days prior to the game. I don't think she'd be able to say what kind of stuff existed on Cocoon, though. But at least she and Fang explained a few things while they were on Pulse...
Given that everyone knew about what l'Cie/fal'Cie/whatever'Cie prior to the beginning of the game, it was a little odd that Sazh began explaining the concept to Lightning. It seemed like common knowledge at that point, especially if you take into consideration the Space Pope's speech, the Pompa Sancta, the roles of the fal'Cie, etc.
Don't die, Lloyd.Fimbulvetr said:
Aeana said:
hmm, don't know, Noel and Serah teleport to Bresha via that gate, and it's 5 years after the Purge here, looks like people still live on Cocoon? I assumed the events in the trailer on Pulse/New Budham (Noel meeting Serah) take place before the events here, 5 years after the first game.
same >_< , but the guy on gamespot video say it's years after the first game, world is saved and they are rebuilding, there are "paradoxes" (the puzzle thing) and there is another world that Lightning is in but don't remember them saying anything about time travel yet.Aeana said:
Fimbulvetr
Member
Aeana said:
Atlas and the machine that controls him shouldn't exist anymore.
Either time travel is involved or alternate dimensions.
Also they mentioned the gates are activated by objects that don't belong in the current time period.
Fimbulvetr said:
yeah, Noel says, "looks like we're inside the paradox" when they use the machine, some time shifting is happening here but don't think Noel and Serah are time traveling here, at least not yet..
also when Noel uses Mog to reveal a chest, the square-enix guy says that "bringing it to our reality", looks like it's not time travel but two worlds are connecting or something...
Alex
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Just let us make our own soundtracks! So I can lay down http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi-s5yJ0GaM&feature=related#t=3m35s as my boss music!
I actually like Hamauzu outside of XIII but his work on it was just not for me. Multi-composer sounds interesting, although it's produced some of the weaker soundtracks in the series. I just hope their Persona-ish fare is kept to a minimum. It's OK in small bursts.
I actually like Hamauzu outside of XIII but his work on it was just not for me. Multi-composer sounds interesting, although it's produced some of the weaker soundtracks in the series. I just hope their Persona-ish fare is kept to a minimum. It's OK in small bursts.
demosthenes
Member
I just had a random thought, this FF game probably won't have Cid?
Appollowexx
Member
Of course not. Unless they travel back in time.demosthenes said:
Crash Station
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Appollowexx said:
At first I read this as if you were implying she would say "I can't because I have a sister". Maybe I should get some sleep.
cpp_is_king
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Not sure why people are bitching about how bad this game is shaping up to be. What exactly would make it better?
- Less linear. Check
- Towns and cities. Check
- NPCs you can interact with. Check
- More minigames and sidequests. Check
Everything that was wrong with FFXIII, right there. Fixed.
The only complaints I see are pure speculation based on how many characters you may or may not be able to control, and additional speculation about how integral the thing about monsters fighting with you will be to the overall game. For all we know it could be a novelty thing that is totally unnecessary.
Instead of the speculation, how about focusing on things we KNOW are going to be good. Such as, for example, everything that everyone ever complained about in 13.
- Less linear. Check
- Towns and cities. Check
- NPCs you can interact with. Check
- More minigames and sidequests. Check
Everything that was wrong with FFXIII, right there. Fixed.
The only complaints I see are pure speculation based on how many characters you may or may not be able to control, and additional speculation about how integral the thing about monsters fighting with you will be to the overall game. For all we know it could be a novelty thing that is totally unnecessary.
Instead of the speculation, how about focusing on things we KNOW are going to be good. Such as, for example, everything that everyone ever complained about in 13.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
You can't say that everything will be good from a few interviews and a demo that fans have not gotten to try out themselves yet, though. After Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy XIV, The 3rd Birthday, Front Mission Evolved, and the length of time it's taking for their other games to be developed, you can't exactly give SE credit where it's due because you don't know if they deserve it yet.cpp_is_king said:
Plus I don't know if the battle system (which I was not too keen on), growth system and ability system has improved yet. I'm still waiting to see if the monster capture system is adequate as well.
RPGCrazied
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The only thing that can break my hype for the game is the weapon system. If its the same as XIII it'll piss me off, plus the pokeman thing it has going for it, will only make me hate the game even more. I didn't like it in ToS 2, I seriously doubt I'll like it here.
RaijinFY said:
I'm writing up my super detailed ones now, but I did a podcast recording back on Monday: http://ps3.rpgsite.net/news/1119-final-fantasy-xiii2-first-look-podcast
And I say they deserve that not because of XIII-2, but their vast mismanagement of their company as a whole this generation.
Fimbulvetr
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Jigsaw said:
So if XIII's lame Cid is dead, does that mean we get to see the cool Cid?
Appollowexx
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But when we look back at their performance this gen (the last 5-6 years) I think things won't seem as bad. FF Versus XIII will have launched and most likely will be a return to form. The hyperbole around FFXIII will have died and we'll remember it fondly as a decent if not perfect entry, same with FF XIII-2. FFXIV will be the big blunder, the turkey - which will really taint the companies history.Kagari said:
But because of the 3 mainline FF games on HD platforms, as well as their pretty fantastic output over the past years on handhelds, I honestly don't think we'll look at this chapter in Square Enix history as negatively as we are currently.
demosthenes
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Appollowexx said:
Yeah, I don't agree with this at all. Mention GT5 and you'll still get some people saying 5-6 years and $60 million. Same thing will happen w/ Versus. It won't be a stain the way XIV will be b/c I expect (
hope
You could say there was a decrease from the PSX days to PS2, not a big one but the cracks were forming and then it was just a complete drop off for the HD era.
RaijinFY said:
He's saying his opinion which is 99% of these posts.
Femmeworth
Banned
Yeah... we'll see about that.Appollowexx said:
Appollowexx said:
But what if Final Fantasy Versus XIII ends up not being the return to form that everyone is expected? Square is definitely aware that all eyes are on that game at the moment, and probably the reason it's taking forever is Nomura is trying to make sure it's absolutely perfect.
Gamer @ Heart
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So when did development on this begin? Summer 09 perchance, or is SE really managing to flip this game around in ~2 years?
Appollowexx
Member
No you read that out of context. I meant - it's definately not perfect (the game has many issues) but it's still a solid game, that will be remembered as such when the usual OTT reactions have died down. We're already seeing alot of the initial haters agreeing that the game isn't all that bad after all. Which it wasn't.ninj4junpei said:
Well that is a possibility. I mean, the game will never meet everyone's ridiculously high expectations. It will, I'm sure, be very good to great, but like XIII, it may well get 'dissed' because it's not the second coming. I think, as you say, the team are working to make it as good as possible, and I expect it to be the best Final Fantasy title this gen by a long way.Kagari said:
I think as a company, Square have made some odd choices this gen. Some for the better - like the Eidos partnership, and some for worse - the constant mismanagement of development teams internally; resulting in very long dev cycles. But when you look back at this gen we'll see they put out 4 mainline Final Fantasy games and a ton of smaller titles for DS / PSP. Which isn't bad at all.
I knew it!miladesn said:
Though the new stuff currently on the Japanese website is all Hamauzu. I'm slightly depressed about this news, but oh well. Gotta get some fresh meat in to work on the series now that he's freelance. I mean, I thought I was going crazy when listening to music on the in-demo stuff, but like I elaborated on in my post a few pages back, I laid out what I thought was going on based on what i've heard, and turns out I was totally correct.
Regardless, I love Hamauzu-san and his music, and as long as he's making new tracks for the game, I am beyond satisfied (which is the case based on the trailers and website) because as a synesthestic person, I see so many awesome colors and vididity when listening to his music. I just hope he's at least doing 50% of it, or close to it, and that they don't reuse too much.
Femmeworth
Banned
Even in context, your wording there is odd. However, I see your point. I certainly hope that no one forgets about how bad the script was, though.Appollowexx said:
astroturfing
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Thoraxes said:
holy shit. sorry to be intrusive but tell me more please! PM is ok.
ZephyrFate
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Yeah those things you checked off are literally the only problems I had with the game, and I'm glad the sequel is attempting to fix them.cpp_is_king said: