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Final Fantasy XIII |OT|

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DeVeAn

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Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong? I rip through battles like nothing then a boss comes up and I always have to retry 4 to 5 times until I "understand" how to beat him. Anyone else have this issue?

It bothers me because its like I am moving at "50mph" then BAM complete stop and I can't progress.
 
Doesn't the game tell you about the repeat command in like the first or second battle tutorial? I can't imagine playing through the game without knowing about that.
 

farnham

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marathonfool said:
This happened to my PS3 controller in the middle of a battle. Most games auto-pauses when the controller battery dies. This game couldn't care less if your controller died. :lol
yeah wtf this is the most stupidest design flaw i experienced in a high quality game after the fzero GX menu that doesnt have a back button.. at least it is patchable..
 
I'm loving it. Even the first five chapters that everyone seems to universally hate were enjoyable for me. Now I'm on Chapter 9 and loving it.

As for my top 5 pre-FFXIII:

1. VI
2. IX
3. IV
4. VII
5. The After Years
 

Lothars

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Jeels said:
We're not really ticked off that some people aren't willing to give the game a chance by playing further along (that's really their own problem, not ours), it's when those same people also go "this is the worst game ever" or "I've never played anything this bad", when simply put, that's not the case. That's what ticks us off. Even at it's worst XIII is still an average or above average game.

I agree with you, I don't have a problem with someone not liking the game but when they barely play it than declare that it's the worst game ever deserves to be called out for it.

Edit: my five favorites before XIII were:

-FFVI
-FFX
-FFX-2
-FFIV
-FFV
 

Magnus

Member
Castor Krieg said:
Shocker for you - I enjoy both Persona 3 and FFXIII "one character control". It is fine for me, allows me to concentrate on my main, claim it as my own. Same with Persona 3, I'm the MC, others are my friends, they fight together with me. This is a concious design choice. You can disagree with it (and you do) but stop acting like it's a step back. It isn't.

You can enjoy it, that's cool. It's a conscious design choice, that's cool.

It's a step back from attaining full control over your party's behavior (which is a highly desirable quality in an RPG, in my opinion). This is indisputable. No one can argue this. You choose the proper role for the moment, and then are left to rely on a computer 'gambit', if you will, to decide how to behave. So don't tell me how to discuss the game design, friend. I'm observing it, and noting its limitations, which several other frustrated gamers seem to be picking up on as well. Mind you, I'm enjoying it, to a degree. It does permit the battles to move at a frenetic pace, which is exciting. My personal preference is to have more control, even if it it prepared in advance by setting priorities up in a pre-combat gambit menu, if you will. Everyone will have their preference, that's totally cool.

For the record, I'm pretty enamored with the game, but I recognize where it's indisputably taking control away from gamers.

edit- I got a little heated, and had to reign it back. Sorry, lol

By the way, I was advised by a fellow gaffer to cool it when it comes to this debate, or risk the ban-stick. This kind of discussion is permitted here, right? I mean, if we can't discuss game design, what can we discuss, right? I understand it wouldn't be cool to let it get out of control with lengthy quote-post wars and shit. I just feel like this is an important issue to discuss with this game. I mean, this is a massive game franchise, and the manner in which its played changed dramatically with this entry, and all sorts of issues of player control and agency get raised when looking at XIII, which I think is kind of fascinating to discuss and debate.
 

Zoe

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Oyashiro said:
Seriously, can someone explain this repeat command to me? >__>; I guess I must have missed it or something? I don't know.

If you manually input CURE CURE CURE CURE CURE for one round and you want to do the same for the next round, just hold down right before opening the abilities sub-menu. It will change to "repeat" and auto-fill what you had done before.
 

RPGCrazied

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Chapter 11 boss help

Hecatonchier, vanillies eidlion. Its the bahamut battle all over again. :( his moves hurt alot.. should I go back an do more hunts? of course I tried a behemoth lvl C one, and got him halfway.. then he turns upright with sword an ko's someone in like one hit.
 

Oli

Registered User
OK I'm bloody stuck on Chapter 4
the Odin boss battle. Hope keeps dying before I can even heal him. I gave him a level 2 spark bracelet thing, as well as one for lightning. Anything else I need to do? What a striking change in difficulty, good grief.
 

Ricker

Member
Oyashiro said:
Seriously, can someone explain this repeat command to me? >__>; I guess I must have missed it or something? I don't know.


Look up on this same page, 4 or 5 of us explained it at the same time hehe ;)
 
Teknoman said:
Wait a minute...is Hope's hometown named after who I think it is?

Yes,
Lightning and Hope living together in PalumPalom, that sounds sooo cool...
I'm the only one who thinks that while Snow has a lolicon fetish Lightning has a shotacon one? :lol
 

RPGCrazied

Member
Oli said:
OK I'm bloody stuck on Chapter 4
the Odin boss battle. Hope keeps dying before I can even heal him. I gave him a level 2 spark bracelet thing, as well as one for lightning. Anything else I need to do? What a striking change in difficulty, good grief.


lol, it gets worse.. much worse
 

Arzehn

Member
Oli said:
OK I'm bloody stuck on Chapter 4
the Odin boss battle. Hope keeps dying before I can even heal him. I gave him a level 2 spark bracelet thing, as well as one for lightning. Anything else I need to do? What a striking change in difficulty, good grief.

Protect and Shell, use it.
 

Oyashiro

Member
Zoe said:
If you manually input CURE CURE CURE CURE CURE for one round and you want to do the same for the next round, just hold down right before opening the abilities sub-menu. It will change to "repeat" and auto-fill what you had done before.
I honestly never saw this in the tutorial. Thank you for explaining!
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
BocoDragon said:
Oh... I thought he meant the "restart" command. I knew about the repeat from the very beginning... but I just discovered that you can restart battles at any time.
You can restart battles?!? I need to RTFM.
 

Dresden

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Relaxed Muscle said:
Yes,
Lightning and Hope living together in PalumPalom, that sounds sooo cool...
I'm the only one who thinks that while Snow has a lolicon fetish Lightning has a shotacon one? :lol
You and thousands of others on Japan. I'm constantly surprised by the amount of porn Lightning and Hope, together, inspire.
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
RPGCrazied said:
Chapter 11 boss help

Hecatonchier, vanillies eidlion. Its the bahamut battle all over again. :( his moves hurt alot.. should I go back an do more hunts? of course I tried a behemoth lvl C one, and got him halfway.. then he turns upright with sword an ko's someone in like one hit.

I'm still not sure why people are not using power and defense smokes and just powering through these fights. There's no reason not to.
 

Zoe

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reilo said:
You can restart battles?!? Oh my, I need to RTFM.

Pause and then restart will be one of the options :lol

I usually do it when I see that I'm doomed cause the game over credits take longer to load.

thetrin said:
I'm still not sure why people are not using power and defense smokes and just powering through these fights. There's no reason not to.

Well... some of us are stingy and don't want to run out of smokes at the end of the game :(
 

RPGCrazied

Member
I don't have any, and I dont think you can buy them? least I havent seen them for buy.. unless they are unlocked now.

how would I get more?
 

Peff

Member
thetrin said:
I'm still not sure why people are not using power and defense smokes and just powering through these fights. There's no reason not to.

Typical "Hm, no, I bet I'll need this later" RPG mentality, I guess. Then the items stay unused :lol
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I use restart to check out a boss battle before I make a new paradigm list for my party.
 

thetrin

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Peff said:
Typical "Hm, no, I bet I'll need this later" RPG mentality, I guess. Then the items stay unused :lol

I had smokes left over for the last boss, and I used power + defense smoke on every single eidolon fight (after Shiva) :lol

Trust me, people! They're there to be used!

Zoe said:
Well... some of us are stingy and don't want to run out of smokes at the end of the game :(
 

RPGCrazied

Member
as I said, I have used them.. and I currently have no more.

Unless you can buy them, which I think they are only found in chests.. im SOL
 
RPGCrazied said:
as I said, I have used them.. and I currently have no more.

Unless you can buy them, which I think they are only found in chests.. im SOL

They can be bought when
you enter last location in game. Then you can go back to Gran Pulse before the final boss
 
RPGCrazied said:
as I said, I have used them.. and I currently have no more.

Unless you can buy them, which I think they are only found in chests.. im SOL

Some enemies drop them...or maybe they are random drops you can get in every fight...but chest is not the only way....
 

thetrin

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RPGCrazied said:
as I said, I have used them.. and I currently have no more.

Unless you can buy them, which I think they are only found in chests.. im SOL

Wow, how'd you run out of them?

Okay, well, if you're out, then you're going to have to make a paradigm that has Fang as Sentinel. She'll hopefully provoke and heal guard, and you can hammer on it as a Ravager. Have a SEN/MED paradigm for when you're in big trouble.
 

Zoe

Member
thetrin said:
Trust me, people! They're there to be used!

Oh, I did use them, and now I'm trying to do the last missions with almost nothing :(

(I know I could buy them, I just don't wanna)
 

RPGCrazied

Member
Castor Krieg said:
They can be bought when
you enter last location in game. Then you can go back to Gran Pulse before the final boss


Well Im in chapter 11, so :p guess I can't buy them.. I'll eventally get it. Ive died so many times on bosses its not even funny
 

thetrin

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Magnus said:
Smokes = the aerosols?

Maybe? the consumable buffs.

They were called smokes in the JP version.

Zoe said:
Oh, I did use them, and now I'm trying to do the last missions with almost nothing :(

(I know I could buy them, I just don't wanna)

I used all of my sneak smoke in Chapter 12 because I was so tired of fighting behemoths all the time. Kinda got me up shit creek in Chapter 13 for one of the regular encounters. :lol

Thankfully after a few tries, I beat it and moved on to the last boss.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Chapter 11, I feel like committing suicide. So fucking hard.

The fact that I've been wooping ass with Saszh, Hope and Lightning previously doesn't make this any better. This difficulty jump is incredible...
 

thetrin

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Yoshichan said:
Chapter 11, I feel like committing suicide. So fucking hard.

The fact that I've been wooping ass with Saszh, Hope and Lightning previously doesn't make this any better. This difficulty jump is incredible...

Oh man! Just you wait until Chapter 13! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
thetrin said:
Oh man! Just you wait until Chapter 13! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I can't wait.

Really, that's no sarcasm. After White Knight Chronicles, I almost gave up on JRPGs because it was so ridiculously easy (heck, I took off all gear and ran around naked 50% of the game because it looked funny). This game is serious business. And I fucking love it. By far the most difficult FF.

EDIT: I get the same achievement feeling when I beat normal enemies in this game that I get from beating Emerald Weapons, Penances and Yiazmats.
 
I played this for about 3 hours and I am really digging it. Just a quick question. Do i get to choose who the team leader is in the early part of the game?
 

thetrin

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RPGCrazied said:
lol its funny how easy the game is at the beginning.

then when you get to pulse, normal enimes rape you with ease.

Pretty much. I laugh when people say FFXIII is too easy when they're in the early spots. Have fun getting raped by behemoths in Chapter 11!

walter_thet said:
I played this for about 3 hours and I am really digging it. Just a quick question. Do i get to choose who the team leader is in the early part of the game?

Not at first. You'll get that later.
 

Oli

Registered User
Also, I noticed in a video someone was able to hold two accessories. I can only hold one, how do I upgrade that?
 

Teknoman

Member
Zoe said:
Well... some of us are stingy and don't want to run out of smokes at the end of the game :(

Yup. One thing I learned back in the 16bit days is to not eat up everything that could give you a nice edge early on.

How long do aerosols last anyway? One fight?

EDIT: Heh i've gotten into danger mode just in Chapters 3 and 4.
 
DarknessTear said:
I need halp if anyone can. The normal enemy Boxed Phalanx in Chapter 11, any strategies on taking it down? It's driving me NUTS. It's a big robot with other small brown ones. I wanna go back so I can get more CP because
Hecatoncheir
is giving me a hard time.. I feel stuck. :(

I'm making my way through ch 11 with no grinding. I poked around the large zone a bit for treasure but only did the first mission. It's gotten a little tougher due to the fact that the game 'expects' you to grind to cover the much larger Ch 11 stat cap. I expect the difficulty to decrease again as I accumulate CP normally without grinding. In fact I've had to pull out a sentinel (zomg) for regular fights vs those frog/sea creatures that call in reinforcements. But if you grinded you'd probably just be zerging them down. Anyway.. to answer your question..

To take out that boss without grinding, make sure you have a full TP meter and the Renew Technique on Vanille, which is in her medic line right on the way to the level 8 crystarium, you can't miss it and you probably have it already. First set com/rav, com/rav, sab/sab, sab/sab, med/sen, and med/sen. Anyway, the strat is to use sab/sab if the boss isn't debuffed, and com/rav if it is debuffed. Switch to med/sen when it starts attacking, but your ace in the hole is to let Fang die (or come close to it) and use Renew Technique to revive/heal both of you (it costs 2 TP so you can use it twice). This will save you precious seconds to finish the boss off.

As for the boxed things, just focus fire on them so they don't spawn more little robots.
 

thetrin

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Oli said:
Also, I noticed in a video someone was able to hold two accessories. I can only hold one, how do I upgrade that?

There's a node on the crystarium grid called "Accessory slot"

Teknoman said:
Yup. One thing I learned back in the 16bit days is to not eat up everything that could give you a nice edge early on.

How long do aerosols last anyway? One fight?

Just a single fight.
 
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