Scythesurge
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There were ones that you absolutely can't beat with 2 characters? Because I feel like I tried to fight every type of enemy and recall beating them at least once...Tideas said:
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Final Fantasy XIII |OT|
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george_us said:
Super easy trick to it.
Use SAB/MED/MED & SAB/SAB/MED
That's it, don't attack him even once. Just switch to the double SAB when your health is full or when he is not attacking.
I keep hearing Vanillie's summons is the hardest though?
Any tips for it when it comes around?
Castor Krieg
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7Th said:
It was mentioned in Episode Zero that Anima's motivation was for Serah to bring other people to him to turn them into L'Cie. That's why she became a crystal when the party met in the Vestige. It doesn't however say why Anima wanted to do that.
Amir0x started playing FFXIII, what happened? :lol
Tideas said:
I've not avoided any battle. What battle can you not win up to chapter 7 with two characters? Genuinely curious since I haven't fought a battle once where I even came close to thinking it was not possible, and I've fought any combination of beast the game threw at me so far.
Oh man I love this game, the battle system is the shit. I feel like most of the battles, are almost puzzle-like...
On chapter 7 or 8 right now (had to restart to the 360 version after my ps3 died 10 hours in)
EDIT - Amorix, I think he's talking about the fight where they actually tell you it would be hard with two people. The big things with the carapaces. They are EASY. Buff yourselves, Debuff him, get him to stagger, while quickly switching to war and peace for a quick heal once in a while, and once he is staggered he is DONE.
On chapter 7 or 8 right now (had to restart to the 360 version after my ps3 died 10 hours in)
EDIT - Amorix, I think he's talking about the fight where they actually tell you it would be hard with two people. The big things with the carapaces. They are EASY. Buff yourselves, Debuff him, get him to stagger, while quickly switching to war and peace for a quick heal once in a while, and once he is staggered he is DONE.
Fun Factor
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Amir0x said:
I don't understand how you can keep saying this game is easy, I grinded in chapter 9 for a good hour & still didn't have a easy time with any of the enemies.
Maybe easy in the terms of you don't die in every single battle you come across, but the enemies put up a hell of a fight. More so than any of the other FF games & if you aren't quick on your toes & correct with your Paradigms, you will die.
Glix said:
Yeah those things were super easy. I totally went to them thinking "oh man a challenge" and they were a breeze! Instant five star rating every time. And if you preemptively strike them, the battle is over even quicker!
The Wyverns too, which I believe were also supposed to be a "difficult" enemy, were extremely simple.
Wyverns said:
Well I'm just up to Chapter 9, so maybe it will be hard finally?
Up until Chapter 9, though, LOL. This game is so easy up until Chapter 9 it's nearly put me to sleep. For one, half the time you're using only two characters, with only a handful of viable paradigms. Bosses are almost exclusively some obscenely obvious breakdown of your paradigm shifting. And with the ATB cancel that nets you an extra move every other paradigm shift, it goes from easy to *snore*.
I hope Chapter 9 is the start of the challenge then!
I`ve died at each Eidolon a few times,had a hard time with the one for Sazh and like someone said,Snow because the Sentinel thing was confusing at first,also once to Odin...there`s one fight I ran from in Chapter 7,after trying it many times,a bunch of those PSICom guys with jetpacks(3 of them I think),combined with a Warlord something...the Boss of Chapter 9 twice and an earlier Boss also...overall though the regular guys are kinda easy,although I had a good stretch with Vanille and Sazh that I was getting 0 stars. :lol
I think that's why it's easy, all you have to do is swtich paradigms, find the one that works best (an in the end it's typically rav/rav/com to get the stagger going, then com/com/rav once it's staggered).FTWer said:
The only ones that are a challenge are bosses, but once you figure out the Protect paradigm (or use syn) and Even Odds (or just use sab) the game gets so simple.
commish said:
None of them were hard, excepting maybe FFIII and a dungeon of FFVI... and they were only difficult because you had to grind forever to fight a boss in one or two occasions.
So when an FF game seems easy by FF game standards, that's easy!
But again, disclaimer, only up to chapter 9. Everyone tells me the game finally gets good seventy three hours into it, so I'm looking forward to chapter 11.
Tideas said:
Well if the enemies weren't so predictable? I don't know but I played Persona 3 and 4 and I died much more in the first twenty hours than in FFXIII.
I like challenging games, but the only reason I'm even commenting on this is because people are acting like this is a super hard game. If the game only starts to get a little difficult at chapter 11, then boy it's still a pretty easy game.
This is simplistic strategies galore. The strategy requires almost no thought half the time.
dreamer3kx
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Did anyone keep one team at the point where you can start swapping characters?
StealthGoblin
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Reaching Gran Pulse is such a breath of fresh air.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Can someone please explain in great detail what this ATB Canceling trick is and how does on go about doing it ?
chandoog said:
Basically, every other paradigm switch you do, you get a free set of attacks. Your attack bar would be fully charged.
So, a general flow would be...
BATTLE START
First set of attacks -> Paradigm Shift -> Use next set of attacks instantly -> Use another set of attacks with this same Paradigm - Paradigm Shift - use next set of attacks instantly -> use another attacks with this same paradigm - Paradigm Shift - repeat
It has to be every other paradigm shift to work, if you just paradigm shift after every attack it won't work properly and will waste time.
Additionally, if you're good at it, you can paradigm shift at the start of the last attack animation of your lead character, and you won't have to watch the paradigm shifting animation, saving you time and "money."
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ah, that sounds like something i've been randomly coming across and wondering about myself. Good to know it's an exploitable tactic.
Tathanen
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Gran Pulse was pretty jarring to me initially, maybe because I wasn't one of the guys waiting for "this horrible linear nightmare to end." Things become much more aimless and less directed, and rather than feeling enticed by the possibilities, I felt overwhelmed and slightly disinterested by them, and lost a bit of my desire to keep playing.
I came back to it a day or two later with a fresh mindset and now I love it to death, but I can see it being initially offputting to someone who was actually enjoying the game up until that point.
I came back to it a day or two later with a fresh mindset and now I love it to death, but I can see it being initially offputting to someone who was actually enjoying the game up until that point.
Did you grind at all anywhere? I was cruising through everythingAmir0x said:
(besides Sazh's Eid battle)
Crash Station
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Wait, Amir0x actually got the game?
DY_nasty said:
I just started chapter 9. I didn't grind much, although near the end of Chap 7 I ran around that hallway with the respawning soldiers a few dozen times to collect incentive chips. That's about as close as I came.
cosmicblizzard said:
Edit: You guys always make it difficult not to get big games. GAF always does it to me. Of course, the game is exactly like I knew it was but hey... I needed to play it for 30 hours or my opinion was invalidated!
Question about Chapter 11 - Taejin's Tower specifically
Not sure if it's a spoiler, but I'll spoiler just in case.
Thanks.
Not sure if it's a spoiler, but I'll spoiler just in case.
On the third tier (right after the fight with 5 Pulsework Gladiators) the guide says there should be a chest right at the top of the steps with a "Simurgh" weapon in it. When I go to where it says it should be I hear the chest sound but do not see it. Is this unlocked after a certain point in the dungeon or what?
Thanks.
You know the problem I think a lot of players are having with the battle system is that you start off doing such little damage to enemies until you stagger them but they mostly do decent damage to you right off the bat. :lol
It adds a lot of strategic elements but I think most people are saying certain battles are hard only because they want to just pound on something until it dies instead of using strategy.
It adds a lot of strategic elements but I think most people are saying certain battles are hard only because they want to just pound on something until it dies instead of using strategy.
Amir0x said:
I dunno then, cuz i've died more in this game than I have since FF8. To each his own i guess. There are certain monsters, like the bike in chapter 6/7, that would shoot continuously at you, and by that point, you dont have enough HP, so if he aims at your main character, it's game over. Even with protect it didn't help much, lol.
Crash Station
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Amir0x said:
You just seemed so against it that I wasn't expecting you to get it until long after a price drop.
Not trying to criticize you or anything, but do you really want to play a game you don't like just so you can have a valid reason to complain about it on the internet? There's so many amazing other games out that I'd rather play one I like.
Tideas said:
That's because you were doing it wrong!
Bike strategy is easy. They telegraph their gatling gun attack, all you have to do is switch to a paradigm with sentinel in it and provoke/steelguard.
Then the attack will do close to no damage and you'll be able to move on.
cosmicblizzard said:
Well, it's about the discussion more than anything. If I don't like the game, the discussion that comes out of it is more often enough worth the price of admission. I enjoy these conversations.
That said, it was also slightly infuriating when people claimed that I couldn't possibly understand what I was saying since I didn't play the game. So of course, since I have disposable income, it was too tempting.
And the game is exactly like I knew it was. Ah well. Like I said, GAF discussion stimulates.
Jamesfrom818
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I noticed that little trick but I never really bothered to exploit it. It sorta makes speed builds pointless. Maybe I'll use it on a subsequent playthrough or some boss I'm having trouble with.
RPGCrazied
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YES.. i finally beat the end boss of chapter 11!! i guess grinding does help.. what a rush, like a 20min battle.. had to use summon at end to finally end it.
sab/syn makes that fight, along with sent, com/rav - oh an 2 medics, and my hope syn didnt have haste. lol
sab/syn makes that fight, along with sent, com/rav - oh an 2 medics, and my hope syn didnt have haste. lol
If "Random Shit" = The first thing you see, then yeah. You'll die. :lolavatar299 said:
I wouldn't go that far. Some characters build up their ATB guage as others attack so if you build your team right, they can run circles around a guy just because one person is slightly ahead of the curve. Also, juggling is important, and Lightning is the best at it.Jamesfrom818 said:
gutterboy44
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Amir0x said:
Huh? What do you mean you get an extra move every other shift if you ATB cancel?
Btw, I like checking in on this thread for the Amir0x progress update. I think everyone is waiting for this elusive chapter 11 milestone for you to see if your opinion changes. I am predicting no.
Crash Station
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Amir0x said:
If you say so. I'm sure we'll disagree a lot but I'll look forward to discussing it with you when you finish the game.
Hm.. Well, this is a Catch-22.
The Missions after the Titan's trials spiked up tremendously, even for a party that has all of its main roles maxed out. Okay, so I need to level up and get stronger weapons. However, the enemies that have both the key to the asinine amount of gil you need are the Adamantoise monsters. Too bad they're also super monsters that do 12k damage in one stomp. It sucks that the AI medic is too dumb to heal the party to full health and if I controlled the medic I would lose the ability to use Fang's awesome limit break (which is seemingly vital on this thing). So in essence, the key to getting stronger rests in an enemy that I would need to get stronger to beat, but I can't get stronger if I can't get enough money from this enemy? Yay. Lots of grinding is in my future before I can even touch the last set of missions.
Ugh. Are there better ways to get gil and cp than farming these things?
The Missions after the Titan's trials spiked up tremendously, even for a party that has all of its main roles maxed out. Okay, so I need to level up and get stronger weapons. However, the enemies that have both the key to the asinine amount of gil you need are the Adamantoise monsters. Too bad they're also super monsters that do 12k damage in one stomp. It sucks that the AI medic is too dumb to heal the party to full health and if I controlled the medic I would lose the ability to use Fang's awesome limit break (which is seemingly vital on this thing). So in essence, the key to getting stronger rests in an enemy that I would need to get stronger to beat, but I can't get stronger if I can't get enough money from this enemy? Yay. Lots of grinding is in my future before I can even touch the last set of missions.
Ugh. Are there better ways to get gil and cp than farming these things?
Crash Station
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MechaX said:
The old JRPG catch-22, eh? This is going to be a fun post-game :lol
Unknown Soldier
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Amir0x said:
You just shot yourself in the foot etc etc.
When you've played for 30 hours you'll get to Gran Pulse and have all the open walking around exploration and mindless grinding and random difficulty spikes that you claim to love! It's a Catch-22, we made you go through all the boring parts for 30 hours and now you'll get to the parts of JRPGS you love and worship! GAF wins again! :lol
MechaX said:
The gil I can't help you with, outside of recommending you get a gold egg (growth egg upgrade which switches all cp to gil) once you have maxed all the crystarium stuff. Just get one trapezohedron, make fang's ultimate weapon, then dismantle it for three more. That way you'll avoid at least one painful part of the process.
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