Crash Station
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Rahxephon91 said:
I read some of it but everything I read, I already knew. I didn't find the plot hard to follow at all.
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Final Fantasy XIII |OT|
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I read some of it but everything I read, I already knew. I didn't find the plot hard to follow at all.
Scythesurge
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Sorry but I found the plot to be nearly incomprehensible without reading the datalog. The plot itself is not terribly complicated or anything, there is just history and assumptions that the game never bothers to tell you except in the datalog which makes the actual in game scenes hard to follow.
Cornbread78
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Scythesurge said:
Yeah, the plot itself is not hard to follow at all. it is just cut short and felt incomplete at times. All in all, I really like the game despite all the hate. I mean, it does have it flaws like I just mentioned, but it's not as bad as people made it sound. I'm actually playing through all the mark missions right now to finish 100% of the game, and that says alot when I have about 10+ games on backlog. I need at least 1 plat. to feel complete, so I'll spend the extra 50 hours to get it for this game, my reason for the PS3, LOL.
CruxisMana
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With my friends a lot of the confusion was based on whether they'd followed the game or not.
I'd followed it since 06, so I was already familiar with all the terms and concepts like fal'Cie and l'Cie where as that all just went straight over their heads.
I'd followed it since 06, so I was already familiar with all the terms and concepts like fal'Cie and l'Cie where as that all just went straight over their heads.
theMrCravens
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Things that got me confused early on was the fact that there were SANCTUM fal'Cie and PULSE fal'Cie, and everyone on Cocoon hated l'Cie but followed the leadership of a fal'Cie which could make l'Cie and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghh !!CruxisMana said:
theMrCravens said:
Thanks for clearing this up, I was getting confused for a while.
As for me like I have said before, this is my first JRPG and I am trying to get into it.
I finally beat
Odin
I also some info on weapon upgrades, seems like I don't have nearly enough items, what should I be doing?
theMrCravens
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Trying to learn the upgrade system without a guide (which I usually try to do on my first run in any RPG) was a complete mess for me.Violater said:
I caved in by chapter 11 and read a FAQ on it which helped.
Cornbread78
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Violater said:
Thebest thing to do is each time you have a party change, you make sure you go back and update/create new paradigms for your party to use. Make sure they are balances for every occasion and focus on the primary cryo roles for your party members.
theMrCravens
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Stuck until next chapter.hayejin said:
Start of next chapter has a portal to go back to Pulse or Cocoon (where you are now).
Trojita
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I just beat the game.
This game was kind of a complete let down for me. This kind of ranks really low on my Final Fantasy Tier list.
Also I like how the game's logo
Ending was alright, but felt like it was missing something. I would have liked an ending where they showed them living on Gran Pulse and maybe a shot to the future where they all live in a village together a couple of years later. Also did they forget about Hope's dad? I expected him to show up near the end when Serah and Dahj came out. What happened to Raines subordinate? He was like one of the only cool characters in the game.
This game was kind of a complete let down for me. This kind of ranks really low on my Final Fantasy Tier list.
Also I like how the game's logo
completely spoils the ending for the game. For those that didn't notice the logo for the game is a picture of Cocoon. The bottom of the picture shows the crystal bridge Vanille and Fang create to save Cocoon from being destroyed by impacting Gran Pulse's surface. Above Cocoon is Vanille and to the bottom right of her is Fang's face. Below Fang is a representation of the beast Ragnarok.
Cornbread78
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Trojita said:
If they could come up with a 2nd villian/plot, they could definately make XIII-2 with the
expansion back onto Gran Pulse and the interaction between a newly connected cacoon and Gran Pulse. I would definately be interested.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Only on 360. Crystal Clear and great on the PS3.Alucrid said:
Rahxephon91 said:
I've made a huge mistake. Oh well, I'll buy it again and play it in two years when I forget everything about the game. It's just really awful though. :|
Also, end game question.
If I beat the final boss and continue post game can I still go back and beat the final boss once I max everything to try and get a 5 star rating?
Darthdevidem01
Banned
Guys HOPING for Versus XIII to AT LEAST be shown in trailer form tomorrow!
FFXIII Twins FTW!
FFXIII Twins FTW!
DualShadow
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So I finally got around to finishing this on the weekend. Kinda disappointed how easy the final few bosses were.
Did anyone else not upgrade their weapons at all? I didn't even grind just did a few missions and that's it.
Overall really enjoyed it and continueing into post game now.
Did anyone else not upgrade their weapons at all? I didn't even grind just did a few missions and that's it.
Overall really enjoyed it and continueing into post game now.
Started it yesterday and already I'm happy I borrowed it. As in I'm happy I didn't buy it.
The visuals are great. Especially the characters while in battle. And I dig the music actually. But like I already guessed, the characters seem absolutely retarded. Especially the DudeSnow and his weirdo friends. I've said it a thousand times and I'll say it again, but Nomura can't design shit. The NPC:s look even more random than in FFX. I can only guess how the modelers have felt when they saw the concepts :lol
I actually had friends and my girlfriend watching the opening and the following gameplay. All of them were joking about the characters and the shitty dialogue. Jesus Christ.
I'm pretty sure this is the Final Fantasy for me. It's nice to oogle at dem graphix from my new TV, but that's it I'm afraid.
The visuals are great. Especially the characters while in battle. And I dig the music actually. But like I already guessed, the characters seem absolutely retarded. Especially the DudeSnow and his weirdo friends. I've said it a thousand times and I'll say it again, but Nomura can't design shit. The NPC:s look even more random than in FFX. I can only guess how the modelers have felt when they saw the concepts :lol
I actually had friends and my girlfriend watching the opening and the following gameplay. All of them were joking about the characters and the shitty dialogue. Jesus Christ.
I'm pretty sure this is the Final Fantasy for me. It's nice to oogle at dem graphix from my new TV, but that's it I'm afraid.
Finally finished the game.
The ending was ok, although it felt like something was seriously missing.
Even until the end, the only character I was really able to like through and through has been Lighting. Fang was OK, but I didn't like her completely. Vanille at some point was unbearable, as well as Hope (he did grow up, but still). Sazh I didn't like both as a playable character as well as a character in general. Snow was comical sometimes, but he too was kinda lame (less lame than Sazh, but still lame).
Yet, I still liked the game very much. Such an awesome gameplay, such awesome graphics, and a story that, while not amazing, was still good enough for me.
Will they ever make a movie gallery option DLC? That is the thing I am mostly disappointed about the game. Such awesome CG movies, and there isn't an option to rewatch them.
The ending was ok, although it felt like something was seriously missing.
Even until the end, the only character I was really able to like through and through has been Lighting. Fang was OK, but I didn't like her completely. Vanille at some point was unbearable, as well as Hope (he did grow up, but still). Sazh I didn't like both as a playable character as well as a character in general. Snow was comical sometimes, but he too was kinda lame (less lame than Sazh, but still lame).
Yet, I still liked the game very much. Such an awesome gameplay, such awesome graphics, and a story that, while not amazing, was still good enough for me.
Will they ever make a movie gallery option DLC? That is the thing I am mostly disappointed about the game. Such awesome CG movies, and there isn't an option to rewatch them.
Fimbulvetr
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zoukka said:
Nomura only designed the 6 main characters.
And one of the villains.
Cornbread78
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Man, only 20--25 marks left to get a 5 star on, time for the
Now, I've tried beating the mark for the Growth Egg, but that was a no go, and I've also tried to start killing the turtles. That was a no go as well. I've using Vanille/Snow/Hope linup with Attrition Paradigm as my primary:
Vanille-SAB
Snow- SEN
Hope- MED
I also leveled up the Marlboro wand to max, but nothing they just aren't dying. Seriously, I got my first turtle death with my 8 cast of Death, now, nothing.... I've gotten up as high as 25-30 and nothing. By then he usually uses his stomp and Quake back to back to kill my party off. (they are all over 11K HPs)
What am I doing wrong, or is it just that much of a crap shoot?
Faltwarren's(sp)
Now, I've tried beating the mark for the Growth Egg, but that was a no go, and I've also tried to start killing the turtles. That was a no go as well. I've using Vanille/Snow/Hope linup with Attrition Paradigm as my primary:
Vanille-SAB
Snow- SEN
Hope- MED
I also leveled up the Marlboro wand to max, but nothing they just aren't dying. Seriously, I got my first turtle death with my 8 cast of Death, now, nothing.... I've gotten up as high as 25-30 and nothing. By then he usually uses his stomp and Quake back to back to kill my party off. (they are all over 11K HPs)
What am I doing wrong, or is it just that much of a crap shoot?
Dedication Through Light
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Darthdevidem01 said:
Well we see how that turned out.
I enjoy listening to this games soundtrack still. Snows Theme, sorta pumps me up to replay the game.
Trojita
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I just realized something
Cid Raines whole goal was to be free from being controlled by Fal'Cie. Had he just held out longer he would have been free from his bonds like the rest of the guys. Instead he had Rygdea shoot him. Now I'm sad
Even though it isn't explained at all in the end of the game and gets the "A Wizard did it" I'm guessing that the reason they lost their brand was because they fulfilled their focus (Or it was negated) but their Fal'Cie (Anima) was dead. The game really doesn't end on that much of a happy note, it's not like they killed the Fal'cie on Pulse as well. Life on Pulse kind of sucks but it's made worse by trigger happy demi-gods that enslave you to do their bidding.
Rahxephon91
Banned
And thats why the ending of FFXIII is terrible. Did they save the world?
YAY! were free ,but at what coast?
YAY! were free ,but at what coast?
InfiniteNine
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Since the bet started here:
DON'T DISAPPOINT ME KAGARI!
DON'T DISAPPOINT ME KAGARI!
Cornbread78
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Trojita said:I just realized somethingCid Raines whole goal was to be free from being controlled by Fal'Cie. Had he just held out longer he would have been free from his bonds like the rest of the guys. Instead he had Rygdea shoot him. Now I'm sad
Even though it isn't explained at all in the end of the game and gets the "A Wizard did it" I'm guessing that the reason they lost their brand was because they fulfilled their focus (Or it was negated) but their Fal'Cie (Anima) was dead. The game really doesn't end on that much of a happy note, it's not like they killed the Fal'cie on Pulse as well. Life on Pulse kind of sucks but it's made worse by trigger happy demi-gods that enslave you to do their bidding.
This is kinda ehy the game has been severly branded as "incomplete" isn't it?
Trojita
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I just realized something else
Are we to assume they lost their magic and potentially all of their abilities and stats when they lost their brand. This may be a case of story/gameplay segregation but the part about gaining the ability to use magic was only possible until after becoming a L'cie. What are they to use then Manadrives? How do we know those will even work after all of the coccoon fal'cie died? It's going to become a lot harder to live on pulse if your characters skills and stats are reset to beginning level FFXIII standards. That is unless story/gameplay segregation says the bests on pulse are only that hard because they appear later in the game. You could take solace that the soldiers and vehicles late in the game were plenty powerful and a squadron of those could take out a mighty beast, but who knows if the vehicles even work post cocoon destruction? Unless they were powered by a portable power supply that didn't need to be recharged with Fal'cie generated power, then they are fucked in that avenue.
Are we to assume that the soldiers will not remember their face at the end of the game? They were on a terrorist most wanted list. You could assume that they could show that they don't have a L'cie mark anymore so the soldiers could assume that they aren't a threat anymore or it isn't them, I would think that might be kind of unlikely. Without the people just arriving on pulse knowing the real truth, they might think that the terrorists caused cocoon to fall and the fal'cie as a last ditch effort saved them. If we assume all of their crystarium level ups are gone, they are pretty much screwed if the soldiers try to attack them. Unless of course their ultimate weapons are equipped and they can still do decent damage.
Ughh this ending is giving me a headache......
Are we to assume that the soldiers will not remember their face at the end of the game? They were on a terrorist most wanted list. You could assume that they could show that they don't have a L'cie mark anymore so the soldiers could assume that they aren't a threat anymore or it isn't them, I would think that might be kind of unlikely. Without the people just arriving on pulse knowing the real truth, they might think that the terrorists caused cocoon to fall and the fal'cie as a last ditch effort saved them. If we assume all of their crystarium level ups are gone, they are pretty much screwed if the soldiers try to attack them. Unless of course their ultimate weapons are equipped and they can still do decent damage.
Ughh this ending is giving me a headache......
Darthdevidem01
Banned
Dedication Through Light said:Well we see how that turned out.
I enjoy listening to this games soundtrack still. Snows Theme, sorta pumps me up to replay the game.
I thought with that much enthusiasm from me they would do it.
I can't fathom why it wasn't shown, I would've been ok with just seeing a 10 second clip of Noctis's shoes
Why didn't they beg Nomura to give them a trailer!
toastyToast
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Interview with Vanille's VA, redeemed by amazing breasts
Suburban_Nooblet
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toasty_T said:
She seems just as optimistic and happy as Vanille :lol
Funny she doesn't have any consoles.
Cornbread78
Member
Suburban_Nooblet said:
Even funnier she said she just bought a tv!? What gives?
Rahxephon91
Banned
She really does sound like Vanille with her normal voice ,but wtf at those boots.toasty_T said:
And yes nice boobs. hehe
Scythesurge
Member
The last dungeon in this game fucking sucks. I don't want to fight any of these dudes.
Zoso
It's been a long time, been a long time, been a long lonely lonely lonely lonely lonely time.
agreed. I finally got all of my ultimate weapons, but now I'm broke and need more gil to upgrade everything else. There really should be a better way of obtaining money in this game.Alucrid said:
Cornbread78
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Scythesurge said:
Yes, but 32K for killing those bosses again is EPIC! Fill the Cryo baby!
Alucrid said:
How do you kill the F'ing things? Seriously, I killed 1 in 5 mins, now I can spend 20 mins and still nothing....
This is what I've bee doing:
Now, I've tried beating the mark for the Growth Egg, but that was a no go, and I've also tried to start killing the turtles. That was a no go as well. I've using Vanille/Snow/Hope linup with Attrition Paradigm as my primary:
Vanille-SAB
Snow- SEN
Hope- MED
I also leveled up the Marlboro wand to max, but nothing they just aren't dying. Seriously, I got my first turtle death with my 8 cast of Death, now, nothing.... I've gotten up as high as 25-30 and nothing. By then he usually uses his stomp and Quake back to back to kill my party off. (they are all over 11K HPs)
I even tried callig in Hect to knowck the turtle down first, but still nothing.....
ULTROS!
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Scythesurge said:
I suggest using the -sols for the enemies. But when you fight the
bosses before the final bosses, I suggest killing them all since they give loads of EXP.
Scythesurge
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Can I grind against those guys? I think I heard that I can but later in the chapter? Right now I'm fighting the second "major encounter," some guy that starts with a 'W' and has a sword.Cornbread78 said:
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