Are you for real? You must have completely misunderstood these characters if you think they're annoying. Terra is more complex than any of the characters in FF7-11 easily. Can't speak on 12 and 13 because I haven't finished either game yet but wouldn't be surprised if the same was true in regards to those 2 games.7Th said:
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CruxisMana said:
Really? Every time her and snow interact (only up to chapter 2 or so) I want him to call her a bitch and slap her :lol shes such a miserable fuck!
Honestly so far I only like Afro Thunder because hes normal-ish and is not an extreme compared to miserable cow,HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!, Miss Happy and Emochild of revenge.
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charsace said:
Very much true, unless we are talking about villains, and even then...
lorddarkflare
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Himuro said:
But it is SOOOOOO cute!
Amir0x said:
That is true then perhaps they should have made her more repressive or just plain ditzy? I think if you imagine her as blond and wearing a cheerleader uniform this behavior might be more understandable.
Also 360 owners is this game making a new savefile for you each time you save?
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avatar299 said:
Did you dismantle it?:lol
Ive only upgraded that to 14 or so, not touched the other one ive found.
Also I upgraded a silver bangle to max for giggles and now what? whend does it transform into something else?
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Angry Grimace said:
Because then they wouldn't have any twist to reveal later on the game, obviously. I agree that it totally breaks suspension of disbelief, but it's clear they did it for the sake of having a dramatic revelation that keeps the story going.
charsace said:
I never said they were annoying, I said they were bad characters, mostly because they were shoddily defined and inconsistent. And Terra isn't complex, nothing in FFVI is. That's part of the appeal; Terra is just a more than just little bit blander than any main character should be.
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Playing through both versions right now. I had a head start on Xbox 360 version, on Chapter 12 just over 27 hour mark. Skipping cutscenes on PS3 version (which is also my third playthrough of the game), now on Chapter 4 at 1hr 30min mark. Anyway, I wish they could have developed Gran Pulse a bit more. I know it's pretty long as-is with all its areas, but it's really where the game gets good.
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TSA said:
omg spoilers omg omg
:lol :lolavatar299 said:
This thread is awesome.
That said, I can say I liked Sazh and Hope best by the end of the game, but didn't feel strongly attached to anybody. My favorite character is Cid and he
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I suppose there's nothing wrong with liking certain characters, but I think of a favoritism towards specific characters as a reflection of the person's values. I could have ignored Vanille for all her behavior in the beginning, but how she turns out is even worse than being the obligatory batshit genki girl. So treasure the moments you have right now, because later on it'll only get worse
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That said, I can say I liked Sazh and Hope best by the end of the game, but didn't feel strongly attached to anybody. My favorite character is Cid and he
showed up for all of 15 minutes in the story and got shot in the face
I suppose there's nothing wrong with liking certain characters, but I think of a favoritism towards specific characters as a reflection of the person's values. I could have ignored Vanille for all her behavior in the beginning, but how she turns out is even worse than being the obligatory batshit genki girl. So treasure the moments you have right now, because later on it'll only get worse
when she becomes the main character
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DevelopmentArrested said:
Wait, wut? Is that location name a spoiler? Or you joking with me?
jsrv said:
Yes. Though on a funny note, Trophies you earned from the Japanese version count as the North American Trophies as well. When I completed Chapter 1, I didn't get my trophy. Though the Japanese save data doesn't work on it.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
If the only rationalization for a character's actions (and in this case, non-action, since everyone should have noticed she's insane by now) is the actual story pacing itself, there's obviously something wrong there.7Th said:
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A terrible character with a terrible justification for being a terrible character is still a terrible character.
Vanille isn't a happy-go-lucky character, by modern series standards that would be Tidus, and he wasn't too bad.
Vanille is a walking fetish for a very particular sort of person, expect to see a lot of people with moe avatars and dancing asian girls with lolita tendencies sticking up for the character. The rest of us who dared to buy this are just forced to suffer for it.
She's the worst character in the history of the franchise, and in some of the later iterations that's really saying something.
He's not playing it, and despite what the series is for you, it wasn't always the same for some of the rest of us.
I'm playing it however, and I can dig the neon roller coaster of battles and flashy stupidity, but that doesn't mean it's not fun to swing a stick at that stupidity or wish the games party consisted of just Sazh.
Vanille isn't a happy-go-lucky character, by modern series standards that would be Tidus, and he wasn't too bad.
Vanille is a walking fetish for a very particular sort of person, expect to see a lot of people with moe avatars and dancing asian girls with lolita tendencies sticking up for the character. The rest of us who dared to buy this are just forced to suffer for it.
She's the worst character in the history of the franchise, and in some of the later iterations that's really saying something.
He's not playing it, and despite what the series is for you, it wasn't always the same for some of the rest of us.
I'm playing it however, and I can dig the neon roller coaster of battles and flashy stupidity, but that doesn't mean it's not fun to swing a stick at that stupidity or wish the games party consisted of just Sazh.
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Amir0x said:
All I know is that 4 years of previews and then, critically, 3 months of import impressions, didn't prepare me for the reality of the final product. You don't know this game, I'm sure of it. You may be 100% accurate in how you will see it in the end though.
Also the battle system is completely unusual... it's not something I would write off without playing.
He isn't playing the game. He's not really talking about the character, he's talking about his dislike of this type of character.. I think his prediction is accurate to how he would see the final character anyway.. but it's a little like saying "I think this war is wrong because I'm the type of person who thinks wars are wrong".avatar299 said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
No, he's not at all. You're missing what he was saying entirely; he's talking about Vanille as a specific character.BocoDragon said:
Selphie (FFVIII) is basically the same type of Japanese stock-character, but her actions never rose to the level of nutso that Vanille's have even in the first hour of the game.
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Alex said:
I'll just out myself:
And I think you're 100% accurate. Vanille is a character I like, and I wouldn't expect the wider audience to agree necessarily. She is put in there for a person like myself... I'm barely an anime fetish person but I like cutesy girl characters. Sucks to be everyone else. :lol
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dramatis said:
So what does that say about someone who favors all the characters?
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Himuro said:
So then it's already better than FFXII.
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cosmicblizzard said:
Not critical enough. Sunny disposition, too accepting.
Will probably die happy.
FTWer said:
That is one of the main things the game got right.
BocoDragon
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He hasn't played the game though.. he isn't talking about a specific character.. he's talking about a character he's seen in trailers and game clips... BUT...Angry Grimace said:
Oh I agree. I think he'd LOATHE her. His descriptions are accurate because he knows what this character is TRYING to be even if he hasn't seen the final result.DevelopmentArrested said:
but on the topic of "why are you playing this game". He isn't talking about the game. He's describing how he'd want to punch a character like that in the face if he ever did play that game.
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sdornan said:
Someone who loves all characters equally? Is that better?
Edit: I'm not saying I love them all equally but it's pretty close. Sazh is my favorite but there hasn't been a character I don't love yet.
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Jeels said:
With what?
Pseudo-Intelligent discussion?
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this thread has been Vanille talk for 2 days... where you been Barack?Jeels said:
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TheBranca18 said:
Shut up!
No you shut up!
Why you telling me to shut up?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Discussing...the game (intelligently and civilly, I might add) in the game's official thread is apparently a waste of time.lorddarkflare said:
I could also bring up the fact that a moderator brought the topic up.
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7Th said:
Or we can not take refuge in camp and actually attempt something with some depth and competent(I.E. Not penned by Watanabe) writing.
I do agree with the costume changes though. Only reason why I like X-2's combat more.
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Angry Grimace said:
Evilore never came in here I don't think.
IMO 6 has the best story and characters out of FF1-11. Square tried to expand on what they did in 6 with 7 and ended up making a game that was a convoluted, incoherent mess. 7 was successful though so they decided to go even more in that direction.7Th said:
To me FF 3 to 7(midway point of that game), 9 and 2nd half of 7 to 11 excluding 9 are different in the way they feel.
13 being compared to 10 has me worried about what will happen to this game in the end. FF10 I reached near the end of the game and stopped playing because I just couldn't continue on. With the exception of the battle system FF10 was an epic clusterfuck in my mind. I'm just hoping the story in FF13 doesn't shit the bed like FF10's story did.
I don't fooled by pretty graphics are great music like some other gamers do. If the story and gameplay in an RPG isn't good it's crap in my mind.
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Dresden said:
He's not hip enough to be riding with others.
And STFU haters, I love Vanille.:lol
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Yeah, I meant moderator. =P I fixed itcosmicblizzard said:
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