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borghe said:really?
when he didn't want the gun? when he was angry that his mom went with? when he saw snow drop his mom and his mom died? it really came out of left field for you?
I'll forgive the awkwardness of Vanille pushing him to confront him, but I just took that as Vanille innocently trying to get them to talk. As for Hope's reluctance to confront him... gee... a 12 year old kid or whatever being reluctant to confront what is essentially a soldier leading a refugee army out of exile.. yeah, I'd be a little hesitant to confront him also.
I mean I guess.. but to me it seemed almost ridiculously straight forward.
What you just described could have been him being grief stricken instead of wanting vengence on Snow but to answer your question, No it didn't come out of left field. I said I wouldn't have known if it wasn't for the Datalog.
I just felt that his emo reaction of not knowing what to say to Snow is stupid and is probably more of a cultural thing. I mean.. when Snow kept going on about how he'll protect Serah, I half expected Hope to say, "just like how you saved my mom right?
I just felt that his emo reaction of not knowing what to say to Snow is stupid and is probably more of a cultural thing. I mean.. when Snow kept going on about how he'll protect Serah, I half expected Hope to say, "just like how you saved my mom right?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I might sympathise with Hope a little more if after Snow's Mom fell off the thing, Snow looked down and said, "guess not."Sarye said:
blurredvision
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cosmicblizzard said:
Sorry, I never noticed any clenching of the fists. I just don't think it was as straight-forward for some as it was for others. Hope did not look angry to me. He did not act angry to me. Therefore, I did not know he was angry.
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Or maybe they shouldn't have stupid characters like Vanille being cheery, huggy and happy around kids who lost their moms and tickle them into confronting their mum's killer? Jeez.borghe said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Are you on like Chapter 3? Because that's not really true. Especially once some challenging bosses start to show up where you have to strategize between keeping up your HP and trying to increase the Stagger meter/get Commandos into prevent the meter from falling too quickly.cnizzle06 said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's not so much that you can't figure it out, it's that Hope's behavior doesn't match the explanation.Dead said:
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miladesn said:
I knew it had to be dumbass Kitase that said that! Seriously dude, finish damn Versus and Agito, and then talk crap about more games.
RustyNails
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Oh yeah. Thanks for spoiling.7Th said:
CruxisMana
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Chapter 5:
Today, when I got in from school, there was a card in the door which I read as "you were out when someone came to collect your empty rabbit hutch".
My dad has just arrived home and told me I've read it wrong. Instead, my FFXIII Collectors Guide has been hidden outside in the hutch all day...
:lol
GOOD JOB IT DIDN'T RAIN.
WORST.BIRTHDAY.EVER!
Today, when I got in from school, there was a card in the door which I read as "you were out when someone came to collect your empty rabbit hutch".
My dad has just arrived home and told me I've read it wrong. Instead, my FFXIII Collectors Guide has been hidden outside in the hutch all day...
:lol
GOOD JOB IT DIDN'T RAIN.
YuriLowell
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cnizzle06 said:
The combat system is far from simplistic. You must be like only a tiny bit into it. Try doing that on some of the later bosses and get your ass handed to you.
Crash Station
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cnizzle06 said:
You're probably the first person I've heard call this battle system archaic. You must REALLY hate JRPGs in general if you think what may be the biggest evolution in the standard command-based BS is archaic.
I was thinking that there could be a FFXIII drinking game where everytime there is a scene involving Snow where the word "hero" is said, you take a shot. The only problem is all the participants in the drinking game would likely die from alcohol poisoning within the first hour. :/
blurredvision
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Dead said:
The first time you meet Hope and Vanille,
they are hooded, and you cannot see their face.
they are random kids staring at the destruction that just happened where Snow and the "tough mom" were.
Vanille is urging Hope to go tell Snow something before he flys off.
By the way, they do have a way to forcefeed info to us slower users. It's called a datalog.
badcrumble
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I refuse to look forward to anything >: Cmiladesn said:
FateBreaker
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You can say FFXIII is many things, but its battle system as archaic is not one of them.
Portugeezer
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Yeah... I'll wait to see how Resonance of Fate turns out before I consider purchasing this game.
Angry Grimace said:
The combat does get good, but I just wish they would've given you the reigns much earlier on. There's no reason you should have to wait so long to be able to pick any roles for anyone, and to customize paradigms and characters any way you see fit (you're able to customize paradigms in chapter 3 but you only have a limited number of roles, which are level-capped). Things like that would have gone a long way into alleviating the linear level design in the first several chapters.
I understand why you're not able to choose your own crew in combat until a certain point, since the characters you're running with plays directly into the storytelling, but I think they waited way too long to give the player access to some other things.
Yes, that is the central component of the battle system. But reducing it to it is like saying any menu-based JRPG is "just select option and X" or any shooter ever released is "just aim and shoot". The battle system is really the last thing in FF13 that should be criticized, and archaic is the least appropriate criticism to apply.cnizzle06 said:
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I'm not finding myself very attached to the characters yet, though I can like them, and I am missing that 'exploring a mysterious world' feeling (because they've pretty clearly aimed for a feeling of high-paced action instead), but my God I can't put this game down. I don't admire/respect it as much as FF12, but this is some damn good bubblegum.
Crash Station
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cnizzle06 said:
Well that makes more sense but you were talking about the battle system in your previous posts so I assumed that's what you were referring to.
I also disagree about linearity=archaic but this has been discussed to death.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Yeah, except you're simplying the entire Paradigm Shift battle system to "press x to paradigm shift" as though you can do it mindlessly, which you can't.cnizzle06 said:
I have no clue how you can possibly believe that. I've already encountered several bosses who require pretty quick PSing just to not get killed, much less do any damage to them. It requires a shitload more thought than say, FFX, where everyone just stood there waiting for you to enter commands and you basically knew what would happen.
I have to say; you're completely and utterly wrong about the battle system. It's like you're judging it based on random low level mooks who can't do enough damage to force you out of Relentless Assault.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The Auto-Battle option is a misnomer. It's not like each role has a variety of options it can perform; the game is not really playing for you when you select Auto-Battle. You're doing one specific task in each role; but the tougher battles never let you just stay in that role because the bosses have extreme amounts of defense and HP which requires you to do a lot of coordination to fill the Stagger meter. You pretty much need Commandos to keep that meter going (Tri-Ravager doesn't work very well 75% of the time), but you really need to pound them with Ravager spells because Commando attacks don't really contribute to the Stagger meter. At the same time, you're losing health. It's not simple at all and it's very easy when bosses pop up to just get killed.cnizzle06 said:
YuriLowell
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Door2Dawn said:
Get it its amazing. I love the design choices.
I'm about 5 hours in and I've already got the feeling this is the retardest FF ever (I've played the whole series except 11). It's like a giant interactive movie filled with random boring fights and the movie story sucks balls. Where's the RPG exploring in this game?MechaX said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That's totally understandable; I posted a few pages back that I thought it was a mistake for S-E to not let you have some version of Paradigm Shift prior to Chap. 3.Zeliard said:
I think the idea SE was going for was to slowly get you up to speed on how combat in FF13 works (give that it's very quickly paced and easy to die if you don't know what you're doing). But it seemed like there was a crapload of battles where you just spammed Auto-Battle mindlessly; more than there should have been.
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