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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| Raiders of the Void Ark
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If he wants AST to dps, Diurnal is the way to go.
SCH had a 'regen' in the form of a fairy. WHM has regen. AST uses Diurnal.
Simply put, shields just don't last as long as a regen buff. That's all there is to it.
Diurnal is still better in a "Fire and forget" way and I think it should be used whenever you don't need any shielding (or if you happen to run 2 ASTs as the effects don't stack). People who are amazed at their shielding capabilities usually can't comprehend that it's only a portion of what makes SCH good, the other being their fairy that is a constant, passive regen. Or they don't care about DPSing as a healer and have a lot of GCDs to spare to manually top people off.
yea that's what I thought. I tend to run Diurnal cause I find it easier to dps. Just wanted to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong (only level 52) as I'm still learning how to play a healer.
So I won't really need to look into Nocturnal until 8 man content/shielding (is there any instance when running dungeons where Nocturnal is preferred by ASTs?).
I will say that after plaing a dps/tank all this time, healing is a breath of fresh air. So far I think I'll stick with it, though I may need to change my keybindings/start to use macros to make healing easier at some point. It's fine in 4 man, but noy sure how I'll deal in 8 man content.
I posted in here a while ago about wanting to try FFXIV out, but the trial wasn't working on my EU account since I was in the beta. Yesterday I made a throwaway US squeenix account, so I'm finally actually playing it! The character I've made is purely to work out if I like the game or not - if I start subscribing I'm going to do it on my EU account, so I'm fully aware that I'll have to start over.
It's been pretty good so far, though. I'm playing as a marauder, and while I'm still getting used to how the combat works and getting the hang of focusing and locking onto things, I'm having fun! The game looks very good, and I can finally appreciate how great the soundtrack is. I'm not intending on doing much in the way of multiplayer, but if anyone wants to play along with someone who knows basically nothing I'm playing on the Moogle EU world and my name is MandelboUSA.
It's been pretty good so far, though. I'm playing as a marauder, and while I'm still getting used to how the combat works and getting the hang of focusing and locking onto things, I'm having fun! The game looks very good, and I can finally appreciate how great the soundtrack is. I'm not intending on doing much in the way of multiplayer, but if anyone wants to play along with someone who knows basically nothing I'm playing on the Moogle EU world and my name is MandelboUSA.
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If you get stuck in the future, let people in the FC know and i'm sure we can get a healer or tank with you to get through that stuff quick. I'd be more than happy to help with guildhest as a healer, Marzipan Cupcake.
Not really. I don't think I've ever thought to myself "Man, this would be so much easier if I could be shielding people" in a 4 man instance. They're tuned for everyone so shielding people is never mandatory. Some ASTs stance dance between pulls to apply a Nocturnal A.Benefic then switch back to Diurnal but I find it to be a lot of work for low results. If I really want to shield my tank between pulls in a dungeon, I'll probably use Stoneskin.
I only use Nocturnal in content that benefits from shielding, which mostly means high end 8 man content (if you're running without a SCH) and PvP because Nocturnal is extremely powerful there.
I pretty much always just use Nocturnal on my AST alt. The regen isn't a huge deal in 4-man and the "low -> full" recovery is the same either way. I still spend nearly all of my time DPSing so it costing time there is a weird though process. Realistically, anything DFable it won't matter at all what stance you're in for being able to heal it.
If the guy giving you advice feels the need to begin behaving like a petulant child if you don't immediately do as he says, it's probably safe to continue ignoring their advice moving forward.
JORMBO
Darkness no more
Thanks, will do. Just wrapped up 2.2 so it is going much smoother now.
WonkyPanda
Member
Glad to hear it. From where you are now, the game gets So goooood. You were definitely in a little slump post 2.0 but there's no looking back from here imo. The story to end of 2.5 is just awesome and you'll be so hyped for Hw.
SliceSabre
Banned
I finally got invigorate from Lancer for my MCH and any other TP using dps I decide to level. Also got my MCH to 50.
My spirit is broken. Leveing Lancer was worst than I thought, I truly despise that class.
My spirit is broken. Leveing Lancer was worst than I thought, I truly despise that class.
SaintGalgo
Member
You still need Blood for Blood though. {I'm sorry.}
WonkyPanda
Member
Why does everyone seem to hate lancer? Haven't leveled one yet
UpsideDownAce
Member
Lancer is a snooze fest until you get chaos thrust. Then it becomes fun to play
you literally only have 2 maybe 3 buttons to press until level 26, because before you get full thrust you're strictly using heavy thrust and impulse drive because using impulse drive twice in a row is a 10 potency gain compared to true thrust and vorpal thrust, and you only need to push one button instead of 2
they should probably remove piercing talon entirely (it's one of the most useless skills in the game because it does shit damage, costs too much TP for how shit damage it does, you're better off not using it and just regenerating TP in the time spent dodging) put full thrust at 15 and disembowel at 26, put chaos thrust at 38 and come up with a new ability that replaces chaos thrust being at 50. it's kind of really dumb you learn vorpal thrust at level 4 and full thrust at level 26. this wouldn't make low level dungeons any less boring, of course, because you're not playing the game of keeping up BOTD, heavy thrust, disembowel, chaos thrust and phlebotomize but it would make me less likely to fall asleep
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
Been mostly playing Lancer since last spring and... Yeah it is. Redoing low level dungeons with friends has been an absolute slog. It literally puts me to sleep.
But Piercing Talon is awesome. I love that skill.
the_sun_king
Member
This is pretty much every job in the game. Once you get to 40+, they start to become intriguingly fun.
I dunno, I found MNK pretty fun at early levels. A lot of it had to do with it having a way quicker GCD compared to every class at the time, and I wasn't used to how slow it generally was in this game (used to WoW and SWTOR where it was like 1 second).
HylianScribe
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Lala Mafia Exposed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb3YKzg1lTk
Then get better and make them eat their words?
If people you know: ask them what you could do better instead of them being douchebags
If people you don't know: ignore and move on
Not really.
Just because they were dicks you didn't know doesn't mean you shouldn't seek out ways to get better.
I'm kinda bored with Dragoon now, but I can't find any other class I actually want to level to 60 lol.
It has more to do with me being lazy when doing "easy" content lol.
It has more to do with me being lazy when doing "easy" content lol.
Best course of action.
SliceSabre
Banned
I'm part of Young Money so you can see my Lala in this film.
Mama Gucci is innocent and can do no wrong.
PhillipCostigan
Member
So good to be raiding again.
Got my A1S and A2S clears last night and got super close to beating Hand of Pain in A3S.
Should get past that mechanic next raid night.
Got my A1S and A2S clears last night and got super close to beating Hand of Pain in A3S.
Should get past that mechanic next raid night.
Aeriscloud
Banned
Wait, I'm confused, was this filmed on Balmung or Excalibur?
SliceSabre
Banned
Balmung.
Deadly Premonition whistle music is stuck in my head again. Thanks.
No idea, but here's a previous JP art contest.
http://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/151293621305ce30afd8dc7b6cb24e79e9886180
http://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/151293621305ce30afd8dc7b6cb24e79e9886180
I joined a bunch of random PFs yesterday doing all kinds of stuff. Unsynched was just a genius thing to include. It means I'll happily go back and do old stuff unsynched that I wouldn't dream of doing if the synch was in place. One of the parties I joined was a Bis Ex learning/clear and we managed to win after one or two attempts so that's great. It's a really fun fight though I was missing a lot so I need more accuracy. But now when I check the guide for Ravana Ex it makes my head hurt just reading it. :-(
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/bac5e0eeae4e7236072178b8d32f50360902af2c
My friend is a winner. o/
My friend is a winner. o/
Well, I caved in and got Heavensward. I figured the 2 years anniversary is as good a time as any to catch back up.
... It's been months. I'm so rusty and so lost. Even though I've played for some time, I don't remember what skills are good for what situations.
That's the crummy thing about being a lapsed player; when you jump back in, it's like learning to walk all over again.
... It's been months. I'm so rusty and so lost. Even though I've played for some time, I don't remember what skills are good for what situations.
That's the crummy thing about being a lapsed player; when you jump back in, it's like learning to walk all over again.
Yeah I know how it goes but, man, the Ravana Ex guide is like a solid page of dense info to remember. It's pretty daunting but we'll see how it goes I guess.