2 Quests in Ishgard. Level 53 for level 1 daily marks, Level 56 for Level 2 daily marks
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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| Raiders of the Void Ark
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2 Quests in Ishgard. Level 53 for level 1 daily marks, Level 56 for Level 2 daily marks
Gamer @ Heart
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Just going off what I've heard but it sounds like they have a lot of stuff that requires getting hit to work. Otherwise they just spam the same combo over and over for DPS. Would be passing up OT WAR's debuffs (and probably better DPS) or PLD's DPS + support abilities.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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With the new abilities 8 PLDs.
EDIT: Also, reached level 59. Just one more level to go.
Gamer @ Heart
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The off combo, MP regen move is the only one that really requires being hit, but it does lack the slashing buff. DRK have the -10% INT though.
The additional DoT might help lessen the gap if there is one, but some of the later moves really are a bummer with zero utility. The enmity gaining heal aoe cone is so disappointing is both effect and use outside of big dungeon pulls and sole survivor has zero attack bonuses, just a slight health/mp bump on a death.
I said it before, but the biggest benefit is probably DRK ability to hold agro off tank stance, with Dark Arts, which might help burst some adds.
But man, PLD is still king. Cant imagine a group not using one.
Well it throws all those side quests at you for a refund as on... Those God awful fund moogle bastard shitty fucking rage inducing side effects quests.
Reprisal is their biggest utility and it's off-Parry.
SoraanTribal
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I didn't resub this month, but the expansion has been tempting me to come back already... lol.
What new spells/abilities did WHM get? Anything interesting/fun?
What new spells/abilities did WHM get? Anything interesting/fun?
How much does it jump up? Trying to level 3 classes (at least). Experience walls are going to be scary for me pretty soon I'm guessing.
Be fair, though--there was an obvious difference between a bard who has a grasp on the class and one who doesn't. Like, hundreds of DPS between "trying" and "not trying", and hundred+ between that and actually good. You couldn't be almost-max-potential-bard with zero effort. And even max-potential-bard got its ass kicked by other classes.
The tradeoff for mobility was a lower DPS ceiling overall. Bard wasn't a particularly difficult class but--spoilers--Minuet doesn't make it harder it just makes it less fun. After the initial adjustment period, it's arguably easier because now I don't have to worry about keeping up dots or anything during movement; I literally can't. Now I mash Feint until they fix it, later I'll do nothing or turn off Minuet and go back to playing how I played before. Even the highly mobile fights in the 60 dungeons aren't harder with Minuet on, I just enjoy them less. Instead of trying to weave everything without delaying a GCD, I accept that all my GCDs are getting delayed or dropped and just stare at cast bars all day. Minuet bard verges on boring when I don't have to move, and annoying when I do.
The guaranteed slot argument is laughable--the tanks and healers each had guaranteed slots, too, but nobody seems to think that made them lazy and half-ass it. Machinist should have been an alternative to bard. All they've done is create two messy physical ranged damage classes, suck the fun out of bard, and still probably require you to bring one of the two to a raid. And if MCH is as messed up as it sounds like it was, you'll still be bringing a bard. Even if they can't cope with Minuet.
Gamer @ Heart
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FFXIV: Sidequestward
Chie Satonaka
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Please help.
I just unlocked the Bismarck fight (both attempts so far failed, yay!) and I'm still missing two currents in the Sea of Clouds. One is from defeating Bismarck, but the other, I'm pretty sure that one is at 27,27. I've gone over the map extensively and haven't found a way to get up there yet. I'm thinking I might have access to the area after I'm done fighting the whale, but I might be wrong.
Can anyone assist? Is it possible to have all the findable currents in the Sea of Clouds before you fight Bismarck?
I just unlocked the Bismarck fight (both attempts so far failed, yay!) and I'm still missing two currents in the Sea of Clouds. One is from defeating Bismarck, but the other, I'm pretty sure that one is at 27,27. I've gone over the map extensively and haven't found a way to get up there yet. I'm thinking I might have access to the area after I'm done fighting the whale, but I might be wrong.
Can anyone assist? Is it possible to have all the findable currents in the Sea of Clouds before you fight Bismarck?
The guy that thought so many find the moogle quests was a good idea should be reassigned to another game.
I think it was an actual fucking moogle. "Then we can make them find us again, kupo!"
I'll murder it.
One current doesn't become available until you finish a quest that starts in Ishgard, near house Fortemps. It seems that is a common one to overlook.
creid
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It certainly ended my love affair with 3.0. I never want to see a goddamn moogle again. Dear everyone: do your daily roulettes for xp, don't be like me!
Yes bard traded off dps for mobility...in an optomized group. But I've seen a great bard out dps average to mediocre players of other classes plenty of times. In the end I don't think the dps discrepancy was enough to dissuade lots of people from going bard. And since bard was considered by lots of people to be a lot more fun, why would people go caster? What bard is dealing with now is what blm and SMN dealt with since day one yes? So if SE was faced with a situation where there were say, 3 times as many bards as summoners, they are doing to nerf bard (fun nerf?) which they unfortunately did and give summoner cool ass shit. There may have been a better way to deal with the situation I suppose which didn't involve pissing off every bard.
Chie Satonaka
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So it's a quest current? Cause I have all of those except for the one you get for beating Bismarck.
The one I'm looking for is an exploration current, I've uncovered the area on the map, but I can't actually get up there. I'm pretty sure it's the one at 27,27.
Edit:
I think I just figured it out. Thanks!
You can't actually get up there, you need to fly to get there. I think the one you're missing is south of that Vanu camp, right on the edge. That's the one that gave me trouble and I thought it was on the island above too.
Except a good brd still won't do as much damage as a good blm or smn, and what they're dealing now is a totally new unoptimized skillset that's shoehorned on the one they had since day one.
Gamer @ Heart
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Are the Machinist skills optimized for the equivalent stand still/cast time stance or does it suffer from similar jank?
Haven't played mhc, but they were created from ground up with gauss in mind, and they have a proc for instant cast chain. They seen to suffer from overall low dps however.
I'd estimate 75% of the people who play this game don't care about dps numbers or even know what dps they are doing. It only really matters for endgame raids and hasn't it been reported that the number of ppl who cleared coil is small? People want a class that's fun to play and has cool abilities. It seems to me that the changes they made to bring bard more into line with the other ranged classes are to shunt people away from bard and into those classes.
Are the instant DPS queues dead now?Estimated time : 11 mins.
Elapsed time : 100 mins.
<3 Duty Finder.
So true, the amount of people that dont care about dps numbers is staggering and people that dont bother with proper roations even more so. It doesnt hamper the game until you get to dps checks/burn phases in fights and then you really wish people knew how to dps properly.
But it was the same in FFXI.
MultiJhonny
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sadly yes...
I have been waiting a ton for Keeper of the Lake and have been getting shitty groups too
This is why I don't like it when a game doesn't support a DPS meter.
What is the point in playing subpar and bad?
Everyone should be performing at least average since that the reason people play game right?
Playing half-ass is not fun...Why sit there with 100% mana/tp?
You want to look pretty or something?
I will never understand these people, no matter if they said they are casual or not because that isn't an excuse to have 100% resource pool or why they react slower than my grandma.
Seriously...all we do in the game is press buttons, and they can't press a button that is less than 1mm(WASD, 123) across?
Bard traded DPS for mobility always. Our base weapon damage is lower. Our DPS ceiling was lower. Part of our group utility involved sacrificing 20% of our DPS to play battery for the group. It was a base part of the class, and that we could outDPS people who weren't necessarily trying as hard doesn't really seem like a reason to punish us by making it less fun.
I really can't formulate much of a response to the idea that bard needed to be less appealing or so underpowered we're literally DPS black hole in a raid group no matter how hard we try. I'm trying and the entire concept is so inconceivable to me--summoner had issues and they fixed it by making summoner amazing this patch. Dragoon had issues and they buffed dragoon. More people started playing Dragoon. Generally if a class isn't appealing to enough people you fix the class, not kneecap another one to force the players to go elsewhere. People enjoy different gameplay styles and are drawn to different class types that meet them. Making everything casters removes an entire play style from the game.
Finally did Ravana (HM) last night. Really fun fight even though I completely fucked up a few mechanics but it was fun to learn things as the fight went on.
Also groups that do a vote abandon after only two wipes are lame. I mean I can understand if your equipment needs repairing and all but still.
Also groups that do a vote abandon after only two wipes are lame.
I mean I can understand if your equipment needs repairing and all but still.sadly yes...
I have been waiting a ton for Keeper of the Lake and have been getting shitty groups too
Welp, time to quit forever. Or play a tank/healer.
This helmet looks kinda dumb on Xaela because of the horns.
That the main scenario roulette, and apparently the servers were congested (people waiting in DF even with a full party)
Got in at 115 mins, by the way, thankfully there is tons of quests to do while waiting.
Well my point on the dps numbers is that scores of people neither know nor care about dps numbers so it wouldn't stop them from going bard. And if bard is that much more fun to play, and you don't care about numbers, why be any other class? I'm thinking this is the big picture YoshiP was looking at. Class homogenization kind of sucks, but is it a necessary evil? If the classes all play differently you can end up with a situation where some classes are super in demand and some are not used at all. I never played it but I think FFXI had some of that? Maybe that's what they were looking at with bard vs. SMN vs blm on a lesser scale.
I will agree with you though that the way they went about it was shitty. Make the other classes awesome to draw people to those classes instead of nerfing bard movement and thus pull a 2 year long bait and switch on bards everywhere.
Preferences aren't universal? Look at the number of people who responded to the initial Minuet announcement with 'you probably don't even move that much anyway.' Some people get really, really happy when they see giant crits. Some people love exploding packs of mobs. Some people like healing, tanking, whatever. People are just different?
And if we're talking strictly about the players who don't care about how to play (AOEing single target bards), they just won't use Minuet? Nothing for them has changed.
Retromelon
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When i watch male au ra run they look silly because their animation shows so much effort but they are 7 feet tall and have to run at the same speed as lalafell
WHOAguitarninja
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So i'm starting up FFXIV for the first time, and it's my first MMO. What world should I go to to not be lambasted for being the noob that I am.
Or alternatively, what world are low level Gaffers (in the USA) playing on? Is everyone on Ultros?
Or alternatively, what world are low level Gaffers (in the USA) playing on? Is everyone on Ultros?
Come to Ultros.
Smooth Operator
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Think I might switch worlds to Ultros soon. I'll be sad when EU does get their own servers finally and I won't be able to experience them though
I switched from Europe few days ago, and it was a great decision, GAF guild = <3