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[Sorian]

So this is one of the last steps required for the anima:

"The goods requested by Cristiana can be obtained through various means including dungeons, beast tribe quests, and crafting."

So idk, have fun I guess?

Anima doesn't seem that bad from what I'm seeing, the big RNG step is skipped by zeta

 

[Sorian]

So this is one of the last steps required for the anima:

"The goods requested by Cristiana can be obtained through various means including dungeons, beast tribe quests, and crafting."

So idk, have fun I guess?

Anima doesn't seem that bad from what I'm seeing, the big RNG step is skipped by zeta

Someone's theory is that the "dungeon" portion of this might be those new items from Alex Normal.

 

[Sorian]

RIP

Maintenance extended by 30min, go back to sleep everyone.

 

[Tabris]

Game will be up at 3:30am PST. Damn it, should have gotten a bit of sleep before.

Oh well, allows me to look over waiver wire for fantasy playoffs

 

[HylianScribe]

WHM cane will look awesome (model rips always lack glow and polish). I like the core design, better than anything in HW for WHM so far. And the weapons are i210 since the WHM Relic cane has +103VIT, which is the same as Gordian and Eso upgrade.

Didn't expect Gobdip until a bit later, so not surprised by that at all. The vast majority of people aren't going to get new relic right away, so why diminish the value of the relic quest with it right away?

No nerfs a little more surprising. Also going to guess they are deciding to wait until people have had time with relics before adjusting anything. So maybe at the so-called 3.18 patch sometime in January or something, along with Gobdip.

Least I'll probably be doing A4S with relic when I start then...sigh.

RIP

Maintenance extended by 30min, go back to sleep everyone.

Just woke up. Going to Starbucks then.

 

[Frumix]

Step 1 is the FATE grind, can be skipped.
Step 2 is run dungeon from Snowcloak to Vault in order.
Step 3 is to trade in the new crafted items which can apparently be gotten indirectly from Beast Tribes (rank 3+) or ???? instead of just crafting them straight up.

That's it.

 

[Sorian]

WHM cane will look awesome (model rips always lack glow and polish). I like the core design, better than anything in HW for WHM so far. And the weapons are i210 since the WHM Relic cane has +103VIT, which is the same as Gordian and Eso upgrade.

Didn't expect Gobdip until a bit later, so not surprised by that at all. The vast majority of people aren't going to get new relic soon enough, so maybe dropping Gobdip in January will happen (or never).

No nerfs a little more surprising. Also going to guess they are deciding to wait until people have had time with relics before adjusting anything. So maybe at the so-called 3.18 patch sometime in January or something, along with Gobdip.

Least I'll probably be doing A4S with relic when I start then...sigh.



Just woke up. Going to Starbucks then.

I don't know about that Korra, looking at it and if you have a zeta already even someone going casually should have this weapon in a week or less.

 

[Tabris]

I don't know about that Korra, looking at it and if you have a zeta already even someone going casually should have this weapon in a week or less.

We're getting this weapon today Asami

 

[Sandfox]

I don't know about that Korra, looking at it and if you have a zeta already even someone going casually should have this weapon in a week or less.

Quite a few people will at least be at step 3 by tomorrow.

 

[Sorian]

We're getting this weapon today Asami

I'm a little disappointed, without knowing the exact details on that last step, I feel like we'll have the weapon by lunch D:

Spoiler

No Yoship, this is not an excuse to make it mindnumbingly hard next time.

 

[iammeiam]

Christ, the bow is ugly. But them stats.

Kinda bummed to be wasting my skip on 0 WD upgrade for Det/Skillspeed, but it just means I have to go find the thing where Aiurily was going in to MCH skill speed breakpoints and pay attention. But given the relative strength of the Thordan and Gordian weapons, there wasn't much of a good option left for us stats-wise.

Hope this can be knocked out quick with the atma skip so I can get around to grinding out Fugly Bow Relic 2.0.

 

[HylianScribe]

I don't know about that Korra, looking at it and if you have a zeta already even someone going casually should have this weapon in a week or less.

Even if it's two weeks for the average person, that's still two weeks of relevant content. They need every week they can get at this point to get to 3.2 without bleeding out too much. I expect if there is a 3.18, it's dropping roughly a month from this past Tuesday.

 

[Sorian]

Even if it's two weeks for the average person, that's still two weeks of relevant content. They need every week they can get at this point to get to 3.2 without bleeding out too much. I expect if there is a 3.18, it's dropping roughly a month from this past Tuesday.

Meh, still not seeing the reason not to just throw in gobdip now. Also, still not denied, might still be making it in.

 

[Ken]

Step 1 is the FATE grind, can be skipped.
Step 2 is run dungeon from Snowcloak to Vault in order.
Step 3 is to trade in the new crafted items which can apparently be gotten indirectly from Beast Tribes (rank 3+) or ???? instead of just crafting them straight up.

That's it.

Is Beast tribe stuff bound on acquire?

 

[Sorian]

Is Beast tribe stuff bound on acquire?

The tokens seem to be, not sure on what you buy with them yet.

 

[Tabris]

The tokens seem to be, not sure on what you buy with them yet.

I hope me not having the Vanu beast tribe done will matter. I have the rest.

You may need to buy the Vanu item for me and I'll just buy one of the other beast tribes for you.

 

[Frumix]

Christ, the bow is ugly.

But the bard is all about that high fashion, or does that only apply to hats

 

[Sorian]

I hope me not having the Vanu beast tribe done will matter. I have the rest.

You may need to buy the Vanu item for me and I'll just buy one of the other beast tribes for you.

I'm thinking all of the beast tribe vendors sell the same thing and it's just your choice dependent on who you have leveled. That's just a guess though.

 

[Tabris]

BTW, does anyone know what this means:

[2.0] The appearance of action indicators has been adjusted to improve visibility.

Just impacting 2.0 areas?

 

[Sorian]

I'm thinking all of the beast tribe vendors sell the same thing and it's just your choice dependent on who you have leveled. That's just a guess though.

I stand corrected. Hot off the press:

"Steel Amalj'ok Exchange","Unidentifiable Bone","Bronze Rivets","Bronze Plate","Iron Ingot","Iron Rivets","Iron Plate","Steel Ingot","Steel Rivets","Steel Plate","Steel Rings","Mythril Ingot","Mythril Rivets","Mythril Rings","Coeurl Yellow Dye","Seafog Blue Dye","Raptor Blue Dye","Raisin Brown Dye","Peacock Blue Dye","Currant Purple Dye","Amalj'aa Supply Carriage","Amalj'aa Pavis Shield","Glamour Dispeller"
"Sylphic Goldleaf Exchange","Unidentifiable Seeds","Straw","Cotton Yarn","Undyed Cotton Cloth","Undyed Velveteen","Linen Yarn","Undyed Linen","Sylphic Silk","Crow Feather","Wildfowl Feather","Aldgoat Brown Dye","Shale Brown Dye","Lime Green Dye","Marsh Green Dye","Qiqirn Brown Dye","Acorn Brown Dye","Cactuar Green Dye","Turquoise Green Dye","Sylphic Lamp Tree","Sylphic Lamppost","Glamour Dispeller"
"Titan Cobaltpiece Exchange","Unidentifiable Ore","Aldgoat Horn","Quicksilver","Beastkin Blood","Scalekin Blood","Jellyfish Umbrella","Bomb Ash","Blue Landtrap Leaf","Morbol Vine","Vitriol","Cloves","Coral Butterfly","Sylph Green Dye","Meadow Green Dye","Ul Brown Dye","Cork Brown Dye","Gobbiebag Brown Dye","Apple Green Dye","Adamantoise Green Dye","Automaton Digger","Kobold Furnace","Glamour Dispeller"
"Rainbowtide Psashp Exchange","Unidentifiable Shell","Table Salt","Cinnamon","Garlean Garlic","Smooth Butter","Sunset Wheat Flour","Olive Oil","Black Pepper","Sun Lemon","Night Milk","Midland Basil","Lilac Purple Dye","Corpse Blue Dye","Lavender Purple Dye","Coral Pink Dye","Rhotano Blue Dye","Shadow Blue Dye","Iris Purple Dye","Sahagin Living Lamp","Sahagin Hanging Larder","Glamour Dispeller"
"Vanu Whitebone Exchange","Unidentifiable Bone","Unidentifiable Shell","Unidentifiable Ore","Unidentifiable Seeds","Birch Branch","Birch Sap","Starflower","Whiteloom"

I believe the unidentifiable items are what is required. Vanu seems to sell all of them and then a mixture come from the old beast tribes.

BTW, does anyone know what this means:



Just impacting 2.0 areas?

No, that just means only 2.0 is required, so it is a change for everyone regardless of it you own heavensward or not.

 

[iammeiam]

But the bard is all about that high fashion, or does that only apply to hats

Bard has traditionally had spectacular hat game but pretty appalling taste when it comes to relic and AF weapons.

Artemis bow was hideous, Berimbau is disgusting, and the latest relic is gross. Pre-Zeta Yoichi was solid, then they added the gross reticle not centered on the arrow and ruined it.

Also bugging scy into data mining:

3:11 AM - scy: Best I can tell, no Gobdip.
3:11 AM - ExtremelyBitter: RIP
3:11 AM - ExtremelyBitter: Oh, looks like crafted stuff can be obtained from beast tribes
3:12 AM - ExtremelyBitter: So you can either get it crrafted, trade in Alex stuff, or do Beast Tribe things?
3:12 AM - scy: Vanu and Gordian stuff gets items 13582, 584, 586, 588. There's an Anima Weapon Materials I need to look at too (13577 - 13580).
3:13 AM - scy: Huh.
3:14 AM - scy: There's uh ... a bunch of Eso weapons in here too.
3:14 AM - ExtremelyBitter: ?
3:14 AM - scy: Awoken and Animated
3:14 AM - ExtremelyBitter: ????
3:14 AM - ExtremelyBitter: Are you sure that's not things on the unfinished animus weapons?
3:15 AM - scy: Animated Ferdinand, ilvl 170.
3:15 AM - ExtremelyBitter: ....................
3:15 AM - scy: Ferdinand Awoke, ilvl 200
3:15 AM - scy: Anyway, the rubber, carboncoat, water, and catalyst are items 13577 - 13580.
3:16 AM - scy: The Vanu and Gordian trade ins get you uh
3:16 AM - scy: Unidentifiable bone, shell, ore, and seeds.
3:16 AM - ExtremelyBitter: which is the map items

BTW, does anyone know what this means:



Just impacting 2.0 areas?

The most recent ground AOE indicators were apparently hard for colorblind people to see on a bunch of the terrain options, so my guess is they're getting changed again.

 

[Tabris]

And I just realized this. The relic grind starts with Snowcloak.

Snow cloak is the dungeon that took me like 35-40 runs to get my item from.

 

[Sorian]

People think that animated and awoken eso weapon are a part of the relic quest chain. Not sure what that means yet in terms of having to buy a new eso weapon or something? Idk.

 

[xxczx]

People think that animated and awoken eso weapon are a part of the relic quest chain. Not sure what that means yet in terms of having to buy a new eso weapon or something? Idk.

I've just started gearing my WHM with eso

can
we
not

 

[Sorian]

I've just started gearing my WHM with eso

can
we
not

¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[Tabris]

I believe the unidentifiable items are what is required. Vanu seems to sell all of them and then a mixture come from the old beast tribes.

Are they untradeable?

 

[Sorian]

Are they untradeable?

Still don't know. If this involves crafting I'd assume they are tradeable but it's unclear.

Edit: Game might be up.

 

[scy]

People think that animated and awoken eso weapon are a part of the relic quest chain. Not sure what that means yet in terms of having to buy a new eso weapon or something? Idk.

They are. Second step yields Animated Eso Weapons (i170), third step yields Awoken Eso Weapons (i200). Fuck if I know why they're the Eso Weapons.

 

[HylianScribe]

I've just started gearing my WHM with eso

can
we
not

Soon as I knew relic was coming I made sure that the current week of Eso if I capped it I would at least hit the max Eso cap. Diadem really helped this effort out. Each week I'd be like "don't know what to buy...should just wait".

Oh game is up, was logging in and just went to character select and realized, "oh, maintenance is done if I got here!"

RIP World full queue!

 

[xxczx]

lobby connection issues. ded gaem

Soon as I knew relic was coming I made sure that the current week of Eso if I capped it I would at least hit the max Eso cap. Diadem really helped this effort out. Each week I'd be like "don't know what to buy...should just wait".

I should've done that but I had exactly 990 eso to buy the WHM cane. Impulse pls.

 

[irfaanator]

all are up to early to be disappointed

 

[Ken]

Remember to take breaks every meow and then!

 

[Frumix]

These new indicators are obnoxious.

 

[Moaradin]

I can't wait to not care about relic again!

I especially have no reason to care for it now that I'm not raiding lol

 

[Tiops]

1) A fully completed zeta relic - THIS DESTROYS THE RELIC. You can now buy a replica of the zeta stage (North Shroud (X:30 Y:20) from the NPC Drake), which you should do before doing this
2) 18 luminous crystals - 3 from each of the new heavensward zones (atma grind v2)

RIP

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Ninja relic with more skill speed? I hope not!

 

[Frumix]

Every time you clear each floor of Alexander Normal you get a Precision piece of either Bolt, Lens, Spring, or Shaft. Turn in ten of each of these for 1 of these relic items.

20 times each floor of Alexander? Sign me up!

 

[Tomat]

I was all excited to go for a relic this time since I never made it past books last time. That was until I read the last page and this page.

Spoiler

Still going to try it

BLM gets SMN stats and vice versa. Sweet.

 

[Frumix]

Can we just stop here? This looks way better than the relic.

So Step 3 seems to be the real bullshit.
There's 4 catalysts you need to present to finish the relic.
EACH of the catalysts requires 20 of "Unidentified" item (specific per) and 4 HQ crafted specialist items (recipe takes dawnborne, diadem mats, all that good stuff).
How to get unidentified items? 10 new Alexander tokens per ONE item. Or 13 beast tribe tokens. Or get them from treasure chests. Or buy 2 of them for law (680 law).
That means... 800 Alex runs, or 54000 law, or 1040 rank 3 beast tribe quests.
Of course, you can combine. But um...

No.

 

[Arkeband]

So glad I get to skip the atma grind, though now my laziness in avoiding beast quests has come back to bite me in the ass.

Still, initial impressions are that this isn't that bad.

 

[SaintGalgo]

Does the dungeon step need to be done in the class you want the relic for?

 

[Kagari]

First word from datamining is relics are 210.

Wow, crit/det on bow. RIP raiding.

 

[Guess Who]

I don't know if I'm just getting jaded or what, but fuck, playing this game has become such a chore. Thordan EX is like the only fun piece of content to come out for this game in months. Everything else is just grind, grind, grind. Do the same two dungeons every day for Eso. Farm the same spot in Diadem for ages hoping for a decent drop. Run FATEs forever hoping for Atmas. At a certain point it becomes more work than play.

 

[SliceSabre]

Oh and I thought I was done with Alexander 1-4 forever.

Silly me what was I thinking?

 

[Frumix]

Yeah, no. I'm done.

 

[Guess Who]

Yeah, no. I'm done.

Jesus fucking Christ.

 

[SliceSabre]

Remember the old day when people thought the first relic quest was time consuming and expensive?

Fun times.

 

[Kagari]

Remember the old day when people thought the first relic quest was time consuming and expensive?

Fun times.

:V

 

[PowerTaxi]

Remember the old day when people thought the first relic quest was time consuming and expensive?

Fun times.

Early days Titan HM. Never forget.

 

[BadRNG]

Can we just stop here? This looks way better than the relic.

So Step 3 seems to be the real bullshit.
There's 4 catalysts you need to present to finish the relic.
EACH of the catalysts requires 20 of "Unidentified" item (specific per) and 4 HQ crafted specialist items (recipe takes dawnborne, diadem mats, all that good stuff).
How to get unidentified items? 10 new Alexander tokens per ONE item. Or 13 beast tribe tokens. Or get them from treasure chests. Or buy 2 of them for law (680 law).
That means... 800 Alex runs, or 54000 law, or 1040 rank 3 beast tribe quests.
Of course, you can combine. But um...

No.

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My tip to everyone before starting this long journey, both in this patch and future ones: Don't.

Spoiler

unless you are dps in my group then please get it before Thursday so I can get the pity gobdip.